I can ask for much more, other than Hub needs to make better decisions at the end of the game. The team played its heart out, I’m so mad at the outcome, but we will be alright
We did everything we could have done
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They shot lights out from three land, hard to overcome that fact. Their size was a challenge for us as well but we played well especially Matthews, he’s a beast!
When a team shoots the way Kentucky did from 3 point tonight, you’re usually gonna lose. Not a lot can be done there. I found myself amazed we were even in the game most of the time.
16 three points, season high. Live and die by the 3. They lived, we died.
Rumor is that they just hit two more 3s from the parking lot. I don’t believe in moral victories, but this loss does not diminish my opinion of these dawgs.
I would've liked to see a little better perimeter defense. Less of a cushion for their shooters.
We can find little things to nitpick, but that effort tonight would get us a win 8 out of 10 times vs that UK team, if they weren't actually UK. It's a jinx like nothing I've seen. We've absolutely had to play out of our minds basically every time we've beaten them through the years. It's never easy (96 SEC tourney was close to easy).
We have two L's. One we played bad and the opponent played their best game of the year and this one. I'm fine. But I still 17'n hate losing to 17'n Kentucky.
We have two L's. One we played bad and the opponent played their best game of the year and this one. I'm fine. But I still 17'n hate losing to 17'n Kentucky.
Kentucky was 6-24 from 3-point range against Georgia on Saturday. They were 16-32 tonight. I really think they could go 1-17 in the SEC and we could go 17-1, and our one loss would be to them. It’s incredible.
If we keep Hub on bench it’s much closer or maybe we win. He was guarding the guy who started out 7-8 from 3. Without his offense, he can’t play. I think the burden of being PG has broken his shot. Clary “injury” huge. Also we need Kugel. He is not scared in big games and can make his own offense.
50% on 32 3s is insane. Normally those games aren’t even close. I’m convinced that you just cannot beat a team thats feeling the 3-ball like they were tonight.
The shot to end the half, right after Hubs 4-pt play, was very telling of how big the basket was for the blue team tonight.
The shot to end the half, right after Hubs 4-pt play, was very telling of how big the basket was for the blue team tonight.
Yep. Naysayers sure as hell can't say that **** wasn't defended. Two guys around him and he drills a 25 footer at the buzzer.
Wanna hear another cute stat. Kentucky's women shot 18-33 from three vs our ladies last week to get themselves a nice ole school record. It's like a horror movie...
From what I saw (I had to turn it off the first part of the second half to work on my sermon), there were 3 big possessions that we really could have done better. I think Murphy had 2 3-point attempts that clanked and Hubbard tried a shot almost midcourt, but I can't complain too much.
Kentucky now has four wins against the NET Top 15 so when they’re on they’re an elite team. We are still very good. It sucks that the UK games always go like this but we’re still in excellent shape to have a big year.
It's kind of their MO. I think the beat writer Hadad interviewed said they hadn't had the same guy lead them in scoring two games in a row all year. They're hard for anybody to defend when they're shooting like tonight. You run out of bodies to get to all the shooters.
If we drove to the basket on half of our missed threes we win that game by 10
The 3-point shot has fundamentally changed the game of basketball.
I wish the 3-point shot would be eliminated. (my opinion)
I'm not of that opinion. It's a more exciting brand of ball and you don't need an All American post player to be great.
UK moved the ball rally well for most of the game. Once someone penetrates, then it's a constant defensive game of trying to catch back up and close out on the open perimeter shooter.
That's just the reality of a team moving the ball well in the half court.
It wouldn't been great to close out even faster, but what MSU did was still pretty solid.
Not wrong, but they had guys hitting them that weren’t on the scouting report. I mean, it’s hard to believe this has happened yet again but it has. I choose to believe we are going to have one of our own. We made 12, just lost our identity in the first half a little
Play better defense?
Yes, it was a great game and I love that we played with heart and didn’t quit, but you can’t give up that many wide open 3’s (and get out rebounded) and expect to win.
We’ll be fine, but we’ve got to lock in and bring it every night. The SEC is brutal!
Not for eliminating the 3 pt shot, but I would make the halfcourt line the boundary. So a half court or longer heave would get you 3 pts. A 3 pt. shot should mean something special......now, there are a lot of players whose 3 pt % is better than their FT %.
This was my thought as well. Just keep getting in the paint. Make buckets. Get fouls. Crash boards when there’s opportunity.
Hubbard makes just 2-3 of those jacked up 3’s and it’s a different game. He’s getting guarded hard on perimeter and is in a mental and fundamentals slump. We gotta figure that out. In the meantime, get Harris shooting a larger ratio of those 3’s.
"More exciting?" Hmmm . . . not to me.
Too many (all?) basketball games today are 3-point shooting contests. You mention post players. I miss seeing good post players that can score near the basket.
Today's offenses simply line up 4-5 players around the 3-point line whom pass the ball around until someone finally either shoots a 3-pointer or fakes then drives to the basket. There are typically very few mid-range shots in today's game.
Further, 3 points is too much to award a player for making a single shot. Don't statistics show that taking a 3-point shot is more advantageous than taking a 2-point shot? That basically urges all teams/players to shoot more 3-pointers, which has changed the game . . . for the worse, in my opinion.
I agree.
Too many players are too good at making 3-pointers from where the 3-point line is today. Move it back and make the 3-point shot harder to make.
The length of the 3-point line will be proper when statistics show a 3-point shot is worth less than a 2-point shot.
We could always play better defense… one of those guys hit 7/10 3 points last night. He’s shooting 34% on the season. You have to admit some luck plays into that.
We played hard. We played like a top 15 team ought to play. Trouble is we were facing #6. Kentucky is our kryptonite. No way to defend a team that shoots the 3 that well.
Move on and keep your head up. This is going to be a good season.
Move on and keep your head up. This is going to be a good season.
And homeruns in baseball
Every position in baseball now has the power to hit homeruns and that’s what these guys try to do and that’s why strikeouts are at an all time high. Eliminate the homerun and make guys make contact.
See, I can make silly arguments too.
I respect your opinion. I just don't share it
Great post players still have a huge place in the college game, they're just not vital like they were before the 3 point shot. Consider Purdue and Zach Edey for a very recent example of a great center still mattering.
The forward pass has completely ruined football. Give me 25 Jim Browns and I'll fix the terrible product they call the NFL.
Seriously though, the modern era wide receiver is kinda the equivalent of the same in basketball, the 3 point sharpshooter.
Every team now has numerous guys who can routinely make spectacular one handed catches , because they practice it constantly. Those guys simply didn't exist in the 70's and prior. There were a few great ball catchers in the old days (Lance Alworth) but there are now 5 to 10 catches and throws a game that you would simply never see in the old days. It's artistry and it makes the game better.
If you haven't tried to shoot from 3 in awhile, give it a rip. You'll respect the shooters while rubbing your sore arms and pecs.
Every team now has numerous guys who can routinely make spectacular one handed catches , because they practice it constantly. Those guys simply didn't exist in the 70's and prior. There were a few great ball catchers in the old days (Lance Alworth) but there are now 5 to 10 catches and throws a game that you would simply never see in the old days. It's artistry and it makes the game better.
If you haven't tried to shoot from 3 in awhile, give it a rip. You'll respect the shooters while rubbing your sore arms and pecs.
The rules in place now allow for more open play downfield and also protecting the QB more has made a difference. It’s so much more entertaining.
Sounds like the rules changes in basketball too doesn’t it? Hmm, isn’t that crazy.
We played really well. Crowd was amazing- haven’t seen it like that in a long time- honestly can’t remember the last time a men’s game was that electric.
Kentucky was just the better team tonight. I think they upgraded at head coach.
Kentucky was just the better team tonight. I think they upgraded at head coach.
The college 3pt line is nearly 4 decades old.
The rule has existed since Reagan was in office.
The rule was in place for 14 years of the last century.
I can't imagine complaining this much about a fundamental way to play a sport that has existed for almost 60 years overall and 40 years of the sport I am watching.
What else do you dislike about sports that has been around for 40 to 60 years?
I hate it when a 5'6" guy that never runs sprints or sweats, doesn't wear knee pads or thigh pads, stands on the sidelines spinning a ball on his finger most if not all of the game, trots on to the field after your defense has stopped the offense from scoring and he takes 2 steps, kicks and they are rewarded with 3 points for not scoring a TD. Take away the field goal and make offenses go for it on 4th down or make them punt it but don't reward them for not being successful on offense.
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