Well, I think it’s pretty clear Robinson is transferring.

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It's not misleading at all to say that a freshman is indeed a freshman!
You’re trying to make it sound as if he’s fresh off the high school field and that’s not true.

Most of our recent redshirt freshmen who have amounted to anything (Russell, Prescott, Fitzgerald, Shrader, Rogers) all looked fairly competent during their second season on campus.
 
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You’re trying to make it sound as if he’s fresh off the high school field and that’s not true.

Most of our recent redshirt freshmen who have amounted to anything (Russell, Prescott, Fitzgerald, Shrader, Rogers) all looked fairly competent during their second season on campus.
No. I am saying a Freshman is indeed a freshman.

he will be just fine.
 
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He is a dam freshman! Good lord you people have zero legs to stand on at this point.
Do you even follow college football?

I didn’t think so.
It's not misleading at all to say that a freshman is indeed a freshman!
Its as if you think only players on other teams use the transfer portal. Or maybe you haven’t heard of it at all.

Either way, you are clueless.
 

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Do you even follow college football?

I didn’t think so.

Its as if you think only players on other teams use the transfer portal. Or maybe you haven’t heard of it at all.

Either way, you are clueless.
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Right. But, Will looks like the guy in 2023 and it seems like a long shot Leach is our coach in 2024.

I just don’t see Leach and Roberts running out of the tunnel in Sept 2024.
What's the main reason you see Leach Bolting or Getting Fired?
 

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What's the main reason you see Leach Bolting or Getting Fired?
I think it’s very possible leach retires in the next few weeks. I’m not sure he wants to live in a world where he has to recruit his own roster year in and out.

Even if he does return in 2023, he’s looking at a new AD in put up or shut mode. It just seems like a long shot he’s here in 2024. Very long.
 
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If you have to lie to try to win people over, you have already lost your

I’m not trying to win people over. But my opinions are based on what I observe and what i read here from smart people who’s opinion I trust.

You are not one of those people.
 

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I think it’s very possible leach retires in the next few weeks. I’m not sure he wants to live in a world where he has to recruit his own roster year in and out.

Even if he does return in 2023, he’s looking at a new AD in put up or shut mode. It just seems like a long shot he’s here in 2024. Very long.
Leach has not remotely given any indication he is retiring.
 

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I’m not trying to win people over. But my opinions are based on what I observe and what i read here from smart people who’s opinion I trust.

You are not one of those people.
No.. You are flat out lying and people see that. There is no apathy in Leach. The stubbornness is a tired lie.

Like I said. ED will have some new talking points by tomorrow. Try those. Maybe something will stick.
 

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I think it’s very possible leach retires in the next few weeks. I’m not sure he wants to live in a world where he has to recruit his own roster year in and out.

Even if he does return in 2023, he’s looking at a new AD in put up or shut mode. It just seems like a long shot he’s here in 2024. Very long.
To your point, in a recent interview he said that he lets his assistants handle the NIL stuff, implying that he doesn’t have time for it.
 

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No.. You are flat out lying and people see that. There is no apathy in Leach. The stubbornness is a tired lie.

Like I said. ED will have some new talking points by tomorrow. Try those. Maybe something will stick.
Do you have the results of his most recent apathy test?
 

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Leach has not remotely given any indication he is retiring.
Leach might have told you that at dinner last night for all I know. But, I’m telling you, there are some really important people who believe our job is open sooner rather than later.

Even if you disagree with them - 2024 is a lifetime away. There’s no way you can say definitely you know what MSU football looks like in 21 months.