What happened in 2020?
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No offense, OP, but you have to be pretty low info for those post to resonate with you.
Trump is well short of his 2020 numbers right now, because we have millions of ballots to be counted.
Trump is well short of his 2020 numbers right now, because we have millions of ballots to be counted.
That's the 20 million false mail in votes that Joe got. I mean really does anyone think he got 81 million ?? More like 61 million
There were 157 million votes in 2020. Right now, there are 140 million votes with 89% reporting.
That will compute to 157 million total votes when it gets to 100%.
Most popular president of all time, nothing to see here folks, move along
Yep tons of fake **** going on 4 years ago taking advantage of the pandemic. Thankfully MAGA team was ready for it this time.
I'm not a big It Was Stolen guy, but I do want to see the final tally and compare.
Napkin Math gives me about 1 million votes outstanding each in the northeast, midwest, and south, plus 1 million in Arizona, another million between Oregon and Washington, and ~8 million in California. That's a total of 13 million roughly to be counted.
If the percentages roughly hold by state, that would put Trump at 77.5 and Kamala at 74.6 for a total of 152.1 million.
2020 was 155.5 million.
Napkin Math gives me about 1 million votes outstanding each in the northeast, midwest, and south, plus 1 million in Arizona, another million between Oregon and Washington, and ~8 million in California. That's a total of 13 million roughly to be counted.
If the percentages roughly hold by state, that would put Trump at 77.5 and Kamala at 74.6 for a total of 152.1 million.
2020 was 155.5 million.
Never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
It's completely plausible that the Democrats generated 20,000,000 fictitious votes in 2020. Complete plausible. **
I am curious how these statisticians respond when someone confronts them with math and facts. Do they make a new account?
If that's the case I do think 3-4 million nationwide may have just sat this one out because the didn't like Kamala or trump. She underperformed in a lot of places not just the cities
If you fall into the "elections weren't safe but I'm cool today bc my guy won" or "elections were safe until today bc my guy lost" camps, remove yourself from future elections. You are both the same stupid person. Democracy only functions when there is faith in the process. 2020 has been audited and scrutinized dozens of times over. 15-20 million votes just don't appear out of thin air nor would that stay a secret. Stop.
I didn't say 15-20 million votes appeared out of thin air. Are you saying there was zero fraud during the COVID-19 election? Let's be clear about what we're claiming.
Math is HARD!
There have been unethical and/or illegal shenanigans with national elections by all the relevant political parties since well before the Civil War. I seriously doubt that the "cheating" was worse in 2020 than 1960.
Crimes exist. There were instances of fraud in both directions not approaching anywhere remotely close to an election influencing total. You can stop with that too.
Several states mailed ballots to every single voter on the roll in 2020. Many of those state do not purge names. There were ballots going everywhere and the Democrat ballot harvesting machine kicked it into 5th gear. You literally had people on the rolls who had moved or died. Ballots got turned in. That's how Biden got to 81 million votes.
Are you seriously this 17n stupid to realize that all votes aren't counted yet?
I agree that it wouldn't be too hard to show that Georgia had over a million more votes than registered voters in 2020. That begs the question of why hasn't anyone proven that in 4 years?
I haven’t made any claims. I’ve only asked questions.
Your reaction is to call me a Dubmass (sic).
You seem like a religious zealot.
Took me about 20 seconds on the Google Tube.
Georgia’s Significance in the 2020 Election
Erin Migneco, SCSJ Volunteer and NC State University Student, shares a blog post on the significance of Georgia’s votes and why the state is currently the nation’s political focus.
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Also need to account for new registered voters this time and ones that supposedly aren't on the roll from last time in this counts to get to 157 million but even as I said that 3-4 million sitting home this time is plausible. 3-4 million sprinkled in precise locations on purpose can change the electoral college vote. So they might could have sprinkled in some fake votes in 2020. Not 20 million but 3-4 million is entirely plausible. You can probably easily do that if rolls aren't purged etc because you have a "registered" voter that it accounts for. Not saying that did happen but could be plausible with mail in ballots. 15-20 million deficit Not likely if that's the defecit for Kamala this time compared to Biden. That 15-20 million is spread out nationwide. I'm sure some swapped, some died, some didn't vote at all. And a few who knows could have been made up but you also have new registered voters making up a lot of that vote this year too. Republicans have been talking that up how many new registered people they have I'm sure dems had that too. Would like to see a deeper dive on the number comps. But no doubt according to polls she underperformed everywhere and trump over performed in a lot of places. That stat cnn showed last night of her not having any counties nationwide where she gained 3% or more votes was jarring.
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There has never been an American election with zero fraud and their never will be. I saw a thing on the History Channel once where they had a historian watching and commenting on the movie "Gangs of New York." when the host asked him what the most realistic scene was, he said the election scene. It's more accurate, more secure, and safer than it has ever been now.
The 1960 election may very well have been stolen. 2020 was not.
Yeah see they rigged it when the weren’t in power but didn’t rig it when they were in power it would be to obvious now
gd please let RFk get the brain worms out of the fluoride or whatever the 17 he’s supposed to do
The Information Age my ***
gd please let RFk get the brain worms out of the fluoride or whatever the 17 he’s supposed to do
The Information Age my ***
It was just an example (probably a hypothetical one), though**Took me about 20 seconds on the Google Tube.
Georgia’s Significance in the 2020 Election
Erin Migneco, SCSJ Volunteer and NC State University Student, shares a blog post on the significance of Georgia’s votes and why the state is currently the nation’s political focus.
People need to stay off social media. Every election is different, and every election has different factors that influence the election. Trump hate drove out record number of voters in 2020. Democrats smartly realized that after four years of Trump and Covid people wanted to go back to normal. People came out in record numbers because they were sick and tired of Trump. Trump was his own worst enemy. Even my dad, who is a big Trump fan, admitted Trump needed to get off twitter.
I think this election is about people not showing up because they are sick of democrats. Democrats have honestly become Bush 2.0. They actually dropped Bernie Sanders for Dick Chaney. Instead of talking about healthcare they talked about how bad Trump and his supports are. Trump smartly countered by working at McDonalds, playing golf with Bryson, and going to sporting events. People did not vote for her because they realized the message was total BS.
Now, republicans better deliver this time around or you will see a blue wave in 2026 and 2028.
I think this election is about people not showing up because they are sick of democrats. Democrats have honestly become Bush 2.0. They actually dropped Bernie Sanders for Dick Chaney. Instead of talking about healthcare they talked about how bad Trump and his supports are. Trump smartly countered by working at McDonalds, playing golf with Bryson, and going to sporting events. People did not vote for her because they realized the message was total BS.
Now, republicans better deliver this time around or you will see a blue wave in 2026 and 2028.
Some people lob baseless claims, suggestions, and accusations in the form of questions and then hide behind 'I am only asking questions' as justification.
Meh. I’m unconvinced that someone being triggered by my question is my problem. I was perfectly polite, and religious zealots resorted to name-calling, which tells me they were overly emotional about the issue.
I’m sure you’ve asked questions here and received emotional reactions, right?
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Just an example. You know what that means ? Just pulled those numbers out of the air. I did zero research.
You are welcome to provide your answers to your questions if you are in the mood for more abuse. Your choice.
Not one sitting president running for reelection has ever got more votes than Trump did in 2020. At the same time no presidential candidate ever got 81 million votes. Not even the amazing Barrack Obama. I think that is part of why so many people think it was stolen. Not to mention all the late night shenanigans and stopping all the poll observers. Biden won a few states by a couple hundred thousand well placed votes. Cheating or just a huge turnout ?
It’s been investigated a million times over. A million lawsuits have been thrown out (many by Republican judges). Biden was a terrible president and he barely won, but he won. At some point everyone needs to just let this go.
Yes, you were polite. You posted screenshots without comment to start the thread and then you asked a question that did not directly insult or attack anyone.
Thing is, when you post mental midget screenshots and say nothing, other posters fill in the blank and set the narrative and motive for posting for you. Right or wrong, thats what happens- its human nature. So you were labeled as thinking there are 20MM missing votes or 20MM extra votes from 2020.
Then you followed that with a polite post, but it asked a question that really isnt genuine because you asked if there was literally 0 voting fraud in 2020, but that wasnt the point of the screenshot comments in your first post and that wasnt the point of the post you responded to.
Nobody claimed there was literally 0 fraud, but your post reframed things like there was a claim of 0 fraud.
Insignificant voter fraud at miniscule levels in few instances /= 20MM missing/extra votes.
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