What is acceptable for MSU baseball next year?

Hanmudog

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Do we go back into the crapper like the last 3 years or do we build on this year? I am not wooly enough on Cohen and our returning players to expect a Super Regional next year but I don't expect us to regress too much either if our pitching staff can just learn to go more than 2 innings per game.
 

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Do we go back into the crapper like the last 3 years or do we build on this year? I am not wooly enough on Cohen and our returning players to expect a Super Regional next year but I don't expect us to regress too much either if our pitching staff can just learn to go more than 2 innings per game.
 

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Do we go back into the crapper like the last 3 years or do we build on this year? I am not wooly enough on Cohen and our returning players to expect a Super Regional next year but I don't expect us to regress too much either if our pitching staff can just learn to go more than 2 innings per game.
 

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Do we go back into the crapper like the last 3 years or do we build on this year? I am not wooly enough on Cohen and our returning players to expect a Super Regional next year but I don't expect us to regress too much either if our pitching staff can just learn to go more than 2 innings per game.
 

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I expect us to make the SEC/NCAA Tourny with an outside shot at hosting a regional. I can see us making a Super next year if all goes well. Now will it happen? Probably not.
 

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We are going to be really young, and I think that we will have even less power all around the lineup than this past year. We are going to be the definition of small ball next year. I'm hoping Wes Rea can come in and be the big gap to gapbat in the middle of the lineup that we need. Defensively I think we will be better. Pitching should be better with a lot of the pitching staff coming back. But I'm scared about how we will do offensively, and that we will struggle there.

Realistically, I think if we can have a similar year to this one, I think that would be a success because we still don't have the talent some of these other teams in the SEC have. Is it what I want? No. Butrealistically I think that's what we should expect to happen.
 

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I don't expect much improvement next year, but we can't take a step backwards. 2013 needs to show substantial improvement though.
 

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your thought that we will be (or could be)worse next year due to losing some key players from this year's team, what are your thoughts as to how we lost key players from last year's team (majority of offense) and ended up being better?
 

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..I realize many of you want to give Cohen 10 years to re-build the program, but time is up.


As far as MSU baseball in 2012, it will be time to put up or shut up.


And don't provide me your in-depth analysis of "returing talent."


I've had it up to here with returning talent. Just start executing in a method consistent with MSU baseball tradition.
 

mstatefan88

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There is no way this team would have done what it did this year without the seniors, regardless of how bad they are.Last yearwe could have won 6 SEC games last year playing nothing but freshman. But there is no way in hell this team could have won 14 SEC games benching Vickerson, Ogden, Collins, Shepherd, and Freeman, and playing freshmen like Frazier, Henderson, Norris, Stark, and Renfroe, who at this moment would be the guys to take these seniors spots. You can say we will never know but that's ********.

I have been one to complain about the seniors this year, but they carried this team regardless. Without them we are sitting at home. The guys waiting in the wings have a lot of potential, but they are young and inexperienced, and in the SEC those types of teams don't win consistently. The young guys will improve before next year, but I still think we will struggle to score runs because our lineup will be full of people who have never started consistently in the SEC.
 

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one can say we would have done worse. Look at the numbers the seniors last year put up as a percentage of our total offense. The point is that last year all of the detractors said we wouldn't be able to replace all of our production we lost. Well I think we did ok. Now, the detractors are saying the same thing aGAIN. Is it not possible that this, just like this year, will not be a factor?
 

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KurtRambis4 said:
one can say we would have done worse. Look at the numbers the seniors last year put up as a percentage of our total offense. The point is that last year all of the detractors said we wouldn't be able to replace all of our production we lost. Well I think we did ok. Now, the detractors are saying the same thing aGAIN. Is it not possible that this, just like this year, will not be a factor?
Not saying it didn't happen but I don't recall many folks saying that it would be hard to replace seniors offof a team that went 6-24 in the SEC and lost to Jacksonfreaking State last year.
 

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I specifically remember being told repeatedlythat we were losing 7 of our 9 top hitters, and that we would be worse on offense.
 

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I really believe Cohen should seriously consider finding a better pitching coach than Butch. If he retains him, the staff better seriously improve next year with everyone coming back or he should be let go. It is not just the development aspect with him, I seriously question the decision-making process of how we use our bullpen and who we bring in. For example in yesterday's game when the first 2 runners reach in the 7th, if that isn't Caleb Reed time I really don't know what is. If you feel like he can't give you 3 innings, you can always have someone else close the 9th if needed. You have to bring in your stopper at that juncture and hope you only give up 1 run, if any. Their have been many head-scratchers like this throughout the year.
 

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...to use a football metaphor, how long are you people going to keep moving the goalposts for Cohen?


What the hell will be different in 2013?


Cohen has had ample time to right this ship.


Cohen took a big step in the right direction this year. Next year I fully expect MSU baseball, after a 5 year absence, to once again be consistent with MSU baseball tradition.
 

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have a bad memory because that was a major bullet point on the Cohen Detractors 2010-2011 list. It was mentioned more than once, to say the least.
 

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win a few SEC tourney and Ncaa tourney games and at least be in the talk of hosting.
 

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I'm definitely not giving him forever. Hell, I was one of the few that said he should be fired if he didn't make the SEC tournament and/or a regional this year. I think he should be fired if he doesn't do it again next year. But I don't see us being a regional host / super-regional team until 2013.</p>
 

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That will give you your answer. We have 2 guys on the roster now that will be seniors and position players next year. One of them is Brett Bozeman. Brownlee is the only guy who saw time this year that will be a senior next year in the field. The rest are pitchers.And sophomore positionplayers that will be juniors next year that saw time this year? Sam Frost.

We don't have sophomores or juniors waiting around to take the field as juniors and seniors like we did this year. We are going to have to rely on fresman and sophomores in the field and at the plate next year. That is not a common recipe for success in any sport, much less having to face the gauntletthat isSEC baseball.
 

KurtRambis4

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you're missing the point. Last year, everyone was throwing themselves off the bridge saying we were losing all of our offense (regardless of returning upper-classmen). aGAIN, I say we did alright replacing that production. So in other words, Cohen has proven (to this point) that he can replace players that graduate. Until he doesn't, I'll go with that.
 

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KurtRambis4 said:
have a bad memory because that was a major bullet point on the Cohen Detractors 2010-2011 list. It was mentioned more than once, to say the least.

I do have a crappy memory but anyone that thought we would miss that sorry bunch of seniors is nuts. Hell we could not have been much worse than last year. Wasn't that the worst team in MSU baseball history?

I will say this however, I like Cohen and there is nothing I would like more than for him to succeed at MSU.....BUT....if he allows us to slip back to the way we were the last two seasons after getting 3full recruiting classesthen his coaching needs to be questioned.
 

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Next year he will be replacing seniors with sophomores and freshmen. We will have more sophomore and freshmen starting next year than juniors and seniors combined.

Here is a comparison throughout theSECof thenumber ofjunior and senior position playersteams will have next year from their current roster if everyone stays (I know that's unreasonable, but the difference between us and the rest of the SECis still very staggering)

Bama9
Arkansas 13
Auburn 10
Florida 13
Georgia 15
Kentucky 9
LSU 16
Ole Miss 7
Tennessee 9
Vandy 13
SC 8
MSU 3

You're telling me you don't think that's going to be a problem? I'm sorry, but I just can't believe that you would think that us replacing last years seniors with a bunch of seniors will be the same as having 3 upperclassmen position players replacing 7 starting seniors, 2 of which have either never played or got benchedthe last half of this season.
 

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Why is everyone concerned about our LB core? It's because we are replacing seniors with freshman and sophomores. But wehavethe same problemwith baseball and all of a sudden it's not a problem for you? You can't say regardless of seniority because that is always afactor regardless of whether you want to acknowledge that or not. Being an upperclassmen and having them on your roster is a very critical component of every team in every sport. So for you to dismiss it to make your point is dumb.
 

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So, as a team, I would say have a .500 or better SEC record, go to the SEC Tournament again, and win a game or two there, and go to a regional and be at least a two seed. Those seem to be realistic goals for us- we'll see how we do in the regionals this year because that is also going to factor into our goals as a team.

Pitching- continue to show progress, in particular we need the starters to go consistently deeper into games. Have a quality SEC starter on Fri., Sat., and Sun. I think this is reasonable considering what we have coming back and also the pitchers that we have coming in. Finish in the top half of the SEC.

Defense- Continue to improve- especially at SS. As long as we're performing at an acceptable rate as a team, I wouldn't really care too much if this goes down a little bit. Certainly would prefer it improve.

Offensively- Hit at least as well as this year and improve our home run totals. Everyone that returns improve their batting average.

Recruiting- Continue to have at least top 25 class. Bring in the top players in Mississippi.
 

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KurtRambis4 said:
your thought that we will be (or could be)worse next year due to losing some key players from this year's team, <span style="font-weight: bold;">what are your thoughts as to how we lost key players from last year's team (majority of offense) and ended up being better?</span>
Cohen likes to play small-ball and we were helped by the new rules regulating the bats.......
 

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It's amazing that you're still missing the point. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you DIDN'T score a 24 on the english section of the ACT? </p>
 

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I understand the point you are trying to make. I understand Cohen replaced players well this year.But do you not at least think that replacing seniors with seniors isa different situation than replacing seniors with sophomores? My point is that even though he will be replacing players just like last year, the situation is very different from the previous year.A one year sample of him doing something well doesn't mean you can say "I won't doubt him." Of course you can doubt him.This is a message board.How can you not bealittle doubtfulabout how a coach will be replacing 7 seniors with freshmen and sophomoreson a team that was below .500 in the SEC?

I do understandwhy you are making yourpoint.I realize we had guys step up that we weren't really sure about.But I just don't see how you aren't concerned about the situation we will have next year. You can't blanket cover all situations like this past year because they are all different.
 

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00Dawg said:
I specifically remember being told repeatedlythat we were losing 7 of our 9 top hitters, and that we would be worse on offense.
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</p><table width="555"><tbody><tr><td><font face="verdana" size="1">LOB - Team (469), Opp (462). DPs turned - Team (55), Opp (36). CI - Team (1), Freeman 1. IBB - Team (5), C. Powers 3, Shepherd 1, Sneed 1, Opp (3). Picked off - C. Powers 2, Sneed 2, Shepherd 1, Butler 1, Vickerson 1. </font></td></tr></tbody></table>
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<font size="2">•Record: 34-23•Home: 22-13•Away: 10-9•Neutral: 2-1•SEC: 14-16•</font>

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is we're replacing seniors that were JUCO players for the most part with sophomores that were drafted or highly recruited out of high school.

That probably just means that we will be better in the long run as opposed to just next year.
 

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that will be enough to make SECT and a regional with an outside chance at hosting.
 

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We batted .296 last year and left 469 runners on base.

We batted .282 this year and left 496 on base. Makes you wonder what our record might have been this year had we drove in those 27 extra LOBs. But I guess had we batted those extra .014 points, we might have driven in a few more runs.

Doesn't matter now....but I can think of about 4 total losses (taking games we could have won minus games we could have lost) with just one key hit with RISP. 38-19 would be nice right about now, especially if one was yesterday...

But this thread is about next year, so.... based on what is returning and what we are losing, I'll say 32-24, 12-18 SEC, no Hoover, but NCAA Regional. 2013 will be the measuring stick for Cohen and company. Maybe he can hire his brother, former New York Mets pitcher David Cone, as pitching coach.**
 

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That stat just has to make me wonder. You would think losing Collins alone would improve that. Not to mention the pop up he dropped against Alabama.
 

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RBI to hits ratio from last year showed Powers, Duffy and Sneed were RBI machines...but Jaron had the best RBI to hits ratio last year and Thigpen had the best this year.</p>