All the good players aren't playing. Nobody seems to care. You got kids even sitting out playoff games. I mean this has gotten ridiculous.
What is the point of bowl games at this point?
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TV $$. That’s it. Travis Haney pointed out that Oregon State will beat Florida in Las Vegas and the PAC 12 will be on social media talking about how they beat the SEC. The team playing with a 3rd string QB and that beat their conference champion. It’s all so dumb.
A win feels good. But man, I can’t believe we could feel this bad about things a little over 2 weeks after beating Clemson.
A win feels good. But man, I can’t believe we could feel this bad about things a little over 2 weeks after beating Clemson.
What tv dollars will they be when people stop watching? If all the good players bounce or sit out, nobody will care. I think something has to be done. One idea I have is to lock the portal until all bowl games are complete.
They could lock the portal but players will still opt out.
Seems to me the only ones that opt out are NFL draft picks. If the portal was locked that could get the others to play.....just a thought. At this rate something will have to be done!
I agree. I think portal should be locked until after the non-playoff bowls are played. Couldn’t hurt.
I just don't understand these kids anymore. Everyone was excited because things are looking up and then everyone leaves. Makes no sense to me and don't say it is NIL because Bell looks to be going to FSU. They are worse than we are in football and NIL. I feel bad for coaches.....I don't know how you are supposed to build anything under the current system.
Portal should be available solely where a coach leaves or is fired. This is worse than free agency in the pros. It’s unsustainable.
Additional practice for next year's group that will be new starters and/or fighting for that starting position. As for keeping Bowls viable, pay each player a bonus check for being on the roster on game day and an additional bonus if they get into the game. Pay the same amounts to everyone.
Finally something that makes sense in the middle of the moans and groans.
Paying players is what is causing this. That's why Bell left that's why Loyd left. Follow the money. College football is sinking..
This is exactly why I dont think we've thought through wanting to install a complicated system on offense... or defense for that matter. Especally a system rarely used at this level. Good luck hanging on to guys long enough to make it work or plug and playing into that. Makes no sense to me.
Bigger question. What is the point of college football anymore. It is just a professional league for players under the age of 21. Why not just create an NFL D league and professionalize this all. It is not like the players are attending college for education for the most part. Why do we keep trying to create this fantasy?
Maybe the attraction is a system that actually prepares them for the next level….
Beamer might be thinking that. I hope it is. Seems like a risky gamble... especally since we didnt do well this year until we simplified things. We'll see if it pays off tho. And if the system is the attraction, it shouldnt take long to find out. Case in point, we want to use a system where the TE plays a major roll and we now need TEs.
Just think if the NFL had unlimited free agency with no contractual obligations, which is basically what we now have at the college level. Total chaos.
College football is now "Money Ball" at its finest!
College football is now "Money Ball" at its finest!
Isn't that what the XFL and USFL aspire to be? I'm all for it.
I want student-athletes representing USC in intercollegiate competition. I want them to have pride in school, in getting a degree, and in turning pro in something other than athletics.
And for those who have no interest in furthering their education, we can watch those future NFLers play for the St. Louis Battlehawks. It's fine, honest, and above board.
If you think it's bad now, just wait. After a couple of years of the expanded playoff, players will opt out of the last few weeks of the season once their teams' playoff hopes are dashed. If you're 7-4 heading into rivalry weekend, you may find yourself taking on your rival without a few of your best players. Why risk a multi-million-dollar career for a meaningless game? (and almost all of them think they'll have a multi-million-dollar career).
Beamer got us on an upward trajectory ahead of schedule due to the portal. But it may very well come back to bite him in the butt.
While your statement is spot on, entering the portal before being in your own team's bowl game would result in your forfeiting your bonus check(s). In fact, one could actually create more value for themselves with a great outing. They could demand more moving forward. College football as I knew it in the '60s and '70s is dead.
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Bowl games are valuable to a team. More Practices, Evaluate young talent. Lots of fun.
BOWL games will be totally obsolete after the playoffs expands to 12 teams in 2 years. Then it will be like the NIT where teams that don't make playoffs get an invite but most of the power 5 teams will more than likely decline. Apparently the players have already figured that out. Time for the fans to do the same.
Remember when there were people whispering in Clowney's ear that he should skip his junior year? Thankfully, he did not.
Yes, a new college league should be formed, disallowing scholarships or payment of any kind.
This. The idea that bowls are meaningless because they aren't involved in the title game has always been true.
The opt outs? That's a different story.
I admit to being a dumb *** but I have gone back and watched every game and I cannot tell there was any change in play calling. Looked like better execution to me.
File that under things that will never happen. I would be all amateur and would star athletes who are never going pro, ever. It would be like club sports in college.
I could be wrong, I am a lot, but I don’t believe the quality of the players matters so much in college football. I don’t believe those 100,000 fans go to a Tennessee game because of elite players. It’s much more than that. The NFL is quite different in that respect. case in point; college verses pro, does not measure up in quality of players, but college football is still a bigger draw. or how about womens basketball? the players are not as good as the men, but successful programs like our own proves it can be successful without the talent level of high profile players. The greed we see is about to snuff out the very reason college sports are successful, and why the money is there at the present. When it’s 100% NFL Junior it will not be as popular. It will then have to complete with the NFL and that will not be successful.
No doubt, and the better execution could the result of simplification . If so it begs the question why did it take two years to simplify?
Apparently the players had too many things to think about. Paralysis by analysis? Hopefully we wont make that mistake next year but here we go with another complicated offense. Maybe they go easy and build on it this time. Hate when we have to learn the same lessons over and over again but it's kinda what we do here
You mean like the already-in-existence NCAA Division III? The only scholarships offered at D-III are for financial or academic (i.e., honours) reasons.
Opt outs have basically rendered bowl games meaningless. It's actually pretty ironic. The media started pushing the narrative that the CFP would make non-CFP bowl games meaningless. There is, of course, no basis for that argument whatsoever (e.g. the Gator Bowl this year had absolutely no more or less meaning than the Gator Bowl did 30 years ago.) However, that argument took root in the minds of players and fans, leading to players being encouraged to opt out of bowls that they were told are now meaningless. The bowls, not actually meaningless, have been rendered so because of the opt outs.
So, yes, bowl games are meaningless now, but because of opt outs, not the CFP. If opt outs are permitted to continue (and I see no way of stopping them), I don't see any point in having bowl games. Just give every team in the nation extra practices at the end of the regular season and call it a day.
So, yes, bowl games are meaningless now, but because of opt outs, not the CFP. If opt outs are permitted to continue (and I see no way of stopping them), I don't see any point in having bowl games. Just give every team in the nation extra practices at the end of the regular season and call it a day.