God this is bad. He didnt fial with the dolphins, unless only coaching 2 seasons and going to the playoffs in 1 was a failure.
Hard for me to agree with Goat. But i do here. in 2014, Alabama wasnt their usual Alabama self. They lost to OSU game because their defense got shredded for almost 600 yards of offense to Zeke and the Buckeyes.
Even if you’re right (you're not, he was a great coach).Who recruited all that far superior talent? Nick Saban. So he gets the credit either way.
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That story got a lot of scrunitity. Not sure rich rod was ever officially offered the job. One reports view seems to think he was. The story and stories I've heard were quiet different. They were close. Rich Rod thought it was done, to the point of packing up in Morgantown... but he was never offered. Saban entered the picture. Rich Rod hit the back burner. The whole Rich Rod turned it down was a way for him to save face and continue on at WVU. Alabama allowed this obviously because they knew what they had coming in Saban.Looking back at what really happened between Alabama and Rich Rodriguez 10 years ago
Looking back at the moment Rich Rodriguez turned down Alabama 10 years ago and the long-lasting impacts of that decision.
That's what really happened. West Virginia anted up, and so did Alabama. Pivotal point in the sport.
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Yep. That story makes sense. As does others. There is a reason why that story was posted by someone that isnt a name in the industry.. and not quoted by anyone with any real connection to it.
Eh, they were down 6 with 40 seconds left and had a mismatch. Senquez Gholson just made a hell of a play to get over and intercept the pass.
Good lord, man. Your story is that they never offered Rod the job & let him save face to go back to WVU. Thrn waited a freaking month to go back to Saban, not knowing if he’d turn thrm down again or not. It just didn’t happen that way. Maybe if Saban had stepped in a day or two after Rod went back to WVU. But not a month later.
Its more than just Saban. Once Rich Rod was leaked as a possible coach it didnt sit well with the Bama brass. So again Bama nixed the deal. It was bama that walked away from the deal, not rich rod.
Of course Saban was their 1st choice. But the fact is, they DIDN'T know they had him. As far as they knew, they didn’t have him. Why would they concoct a story that made them look like the school that got turned down if it was all Rich Rid jumping the gun? It just doesn’t make sense.
They didnt concoct the story. Rich Rod is the one that leaked the entire story. It was rich rods camp that leaked the story.
Too much parity with 6-8 teams. What Bama did, with impunity, for years, everyone is now allowed to do.
I will clarify......I didn't mean that Lane Kiffin was the reason they beat US specifically. I agree, we choked on offense in that game, both Danny and Dak. So when I said "they were in the playoff instead of MSU", that was misleading, as if I said Kiffin was 100% instrumental in beating us.
It will happen again, but not for a while. There will be parity for the foreseeable future. But eventually, unless the sport crumbles, someone will figure out a way to build another dynasty.
Bama had some great stretches under the Bear. I think it could happen again. What the elite are doing now is no different than what they have done for decades when it comes to paying players, it's just above board now. I'd say it would be much easier for them to do now because of the portal, and the increased roster size on "scholarship." When one of them gets the right coach off they will go. If you want to see the model, look at European soccer. That's the closest thing to what college football is now, except they don't even have unlimited muted transfers for nothing EVERY year.
Brees failed his physical with the Dolphins. It wasn’t Saban.
Whatever your thoughts on "pretty much a done deal" i guess and mine are different. Pretty much done is Moore and the search committee liked him, were ready to make it happen, but the big money people said NO. Moore had gone from Step 1 to Step 5 without checking on steps 2-4 which were prominent Bama people and the people that would be paying that salary. Moore then had to save his tail, tell Rich Rod sorry, make some bogus statement.. and land a big name coach.. or he was out the door.
Because at Bama if a coach wins they are considered god-like and that is not the case at other programs. Anything Bama needed/wanted they got and Saban leveraged that coach worship to building even the city of Tuscaloosa up in addition to drastic upgrades at the Bama campus, while making insane offers to the families of athletes to get their NFL ready children to the NFL and then pay for school for all their offspring (and more offer sweeteners for many other 5 star players). What other school in those 17 years HAD THEIR OWN BANK? I will wait for your investigative anaylsis.
So saban was a college coach for 20 something years. And was never once put on probation. Yet we shouldnt be naive in the fact that he was buying every player on his 2 deep... to the point that it was unmatched and well known...yet nothing was done..... and before you say the NCAA didnt want to touch Alabama, they had already basically given the program the death penality a few years earlier..... this wasnt the NCAA it is now. This was in the midst of the NCAA power hey-day. Pre-NIL and court hearings.
I dont. Seeing that the NCAA had no issues dropping the hammer on Alabama just a few year earlier. If Alabama had been blantantly breaking the rules on the scale you are claiming. Would be easy to be caught and dropped the hammer on again.
Not sure why the semantics on this are so important to you. Saying his wife nixed the deal is just funny.
Pretty much jealousy on my part…
That's a pretty big "except". And the exact reason that there won't be another dynasty for good little while.
It is quite similar to lobbying congress in the way you work with the NCAA. Friendships, visits, a little business, and all the while Bama is doing things so far below the radar it looks like they are the model "student athlete university". Saban worked hard and worked his assistants hard and pushed and pushed and snapped mid game when he needed to get their attention (I am sure it was a measured act on his side). What he does get credit for is getting good players to play as good as they can. I will also give him credit for having 15 or so "life coaches" on payroll to be one-on-one full time dedicated mentors and therapists for his players. And the way they did the privacy/NDA on the offer to the families was unmatched in what the player would benefit from now and in the future. Plus he had the track record of getting players ready for the NFL, and most likely already had that info in the pitch to the family. We have a proven plan to get you to the NFL if you do your part, and oh yeah, you get to send all your kids to Bama for free, that is something Bryant started. And many more perks, heck, the cars driven by athletes those 17 years, its just like everyone at the NCAA looked the other way. It was not "directly from the school or from a booster"...
So basically Alabama and Saban had a system that was set up for Players to Succeed... and it was within the rules.
Actually that is exactly why there WILL be another dynasty, almost immediately. The model we are under is oil money buying out the EPL.
First you say it’s like the EPL except the portal. Now you say the portal is the reason there will be an immediate dynasty.
