When did who you vote for become more public?

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Copout. If the country could provide better, it would. Signs like this scream, "hey look at me I'm cooler and smarter than the rest of you peasants who like these candidates", which in itself is the same pathetic-ness, because you want your opinion on that particular topic, to be known so badly.

LoOk At Me I'm MuH nEuTrAl

Just own whatever you choose to do. OR....better yet, just stay quiet.
 
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There were almost 0 yard signs in my neighborhood growing up.
Well, I don't know about the 80s because I wouldn't remember one way or the other, but thru the 90s, they just weren't a thing that people put out in large numbers.

Since '04 though?...the increase in yard signs is exponential.


^ just mentioning yard signs because they are distinctly analog and rose in popularity before social media.

A family member ran for local office and lost. We have hundreds of signs. They are fantastic for the shooting range at the camp. I’d argue it’s the best use for them.
 

johnson86-1

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I think one factor is that we have, as a society, become more dependent on government. Both Democrats and Republicans. Government has progressively inserted themselves into our lives more and more (think frog in the pot of water), causing more of the dependence (whether conscious or subconscious). When you are more dependent on something you become more invested and more vocal.
This is a big part of it. It’s not as bad as most people make it, or rather it’s not really that bad in the ways most people complain about (it’s much worse in others), but people take politics more personally because the expansion of government has made it more personal.

Social media is another big part.

And politics taking the place of religion is the other big part.
 

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Signs, hats, shirts, bumper stickers have been around as long as I can remember. You see a lot more today than you did than 40 years ago.
 
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When I was growing up there wasn’t really that much difference between democrats and republicans so things didn’t really change no matter which party won. Today there is a huge difference between the parties. Republicans are more conservative and Democrats are way more liberal so this along with social media and the tv news networks Spewing their constant lies has really increased the passion people have for their political position.
 

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I remember growing up - who you voted for was more of a private matter. Is it 100% bc of social media?
1788 or before. We haven't even always had secret ballot. However the making it your entire identity seems to be a rather new, stupid development.
 
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There were almost 0 yard signs in my neighborhood growing up.
Well, I don't know about the 80s because I wouldn't remember one way or the other, but thru the 90s, they just weren't a thing that people put out in large numbers.

Since '04 though?...the increase in yard signs is exponential.


^ just mentioning yard signs because they are distinctly analog and rose in popularity before social media.
Every once in a while, my HOA serves a useful purpose
 
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I remember growing up - who you voted for was more of a private matter. Is it 100% bc of social media?
Probably social media. You can easily tell who someone is going to vote for based on their political views even if they don't say it.

Once people realized that they didn't mind just coming out and saying it.

Its not everyone but lots of people this way.
 

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two words, identify politics, it's all by design. I humbly suggest it started even before the SM, it started with the 24 hour news cycle.
 
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Social media and the internet have made politics into tribalism mixed with basically sports level fanaticism.
FIFY - The MEDIA and the internet have made politics into tribalism.

When you talk about cops killing black people so much that the average american thinks 5/6 of 10 or more of the people killed by cops are black?
When the media claims that a leader is literally trying to be a dictator or a nazi even though he's been president and he left office just like every other president?
When 40% plus of the country thinks there are many states with NO EXCEPTIONS TO ABORTION? There aren't any. Maybe, maybe, 1.

The media no longer reports the news. They toe the line of what they are told to say.
 
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I also remember when people didn't use politics as a be all/end all for every aspect of their lives and those with whom they associate.

Dawgs win! 1-0.
Nor did their politics or sports team preferences affect their decisions of commerce.
 
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I got a Wicker/Trump mailer yesterday. I told my wife if they didn’t do any ads, mailers, or campaigning they would both win the state. That is part of the issue with politics. We have no option.

I think where we currently are in politics has a lot to do with the decline of religion. People are less religious but still need hope. Also, we have this inward desire to worship. Trump/dems have replaced God. I see it throughout our State and it is sad.
I agree with all of the above.
 

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People used to get on with their lives, politics wasn't an all consuming obsession like it is with far too many people today.
 
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When 40% plus of the country thinks there are many states with NO EXCEPTIONS TO ABORTION? There aren't any. Maybe, maybe, 1.

The media no longer reports the news. They toe the line of what they are told to say.
Abortion with no exemptions could grow by leaps and bounds today given the laws several states are voting on. They are intentionally very vaguely written with no definitions so as to leave interpretation up to the courts. A very dangerous thing to do.

The media doing nothing but spewing talking points over and over is why I recommend getting news from various independent sources.
 

DesotoCountyDawg

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Copout. If the country could provide better, it would. Signs like this scream, "hey look at me I'm cooler and smarter than the rest of you peasants who like these candidates", which in itself is the same pathetic-ness, because you want your opinion on that particular topic, to be known so badly.

LoOk At Me I'm MuH nEuTrAl

Just own whatever you choose to do. OR....better yet, just stay quiet.
Don’t lie. You wouldn’t have said anything if someone else had posted it.

I go to DC to visit with people in Congress at least once a year and meet with them here when they visit all the time. One of my friends is a chief of staff for someone in Congress. I do my part in telling them about what interests me and what my concerns are.
Do you do that? I bet you don’t

Oh and 17 you.
 

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Everyone should read Hate Inc. by Matt Taibbi. It is a great read on this topic. It shows how media and politics goal today is to make you hate the other side to make them money.
 
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Abortion with no exemptions could grow by leaps and bounds today given the laws several states are voting on. They are intentionally very vaguely written with no definitions so as to leave interpretation up to the courts. A very dangerous thing to do.

The media doing nothing but spewing talking points over and over is why I recommend getting news from various independent sources.
Correct.

And I don't know what states are up for vote today, but no state is abortion free without exemption at this current time. Again maybe there is 1 but I can't find it.

But the media has liberal women all over the country thinking you can get raped or be dying in many states and aren't allowed to have an abortion. Thats simply not true.

Neither is it true that either of the presidential candidates want a national abortion ban. NEITHER OF THEM.
 

johnson86-1

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Totally unenforceable reg, but don't tell anyone.
Unless you are in a state that mandates HOAs allow political signs, how is that unenforceable? I thought this issue has come up and been decided both ways in different places.
 

DesotoCountyDawg

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Me and my truck are for Amy Tuck
You beat me to it. That might be the best one ever.

If I remember correctly there were some cringeworthy campaign commercials for that race too. It’s like come on guys you can come with something better than that.
 

johnson86-1

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Everyone should read Hate Inc. by Matt Taibbi. It is a great read on this topic. It shows how media and politics goal today is to make you hate the other side to make them money.
People live in completely different realities depending on the media they consume. In some realities, a woman from Georgia died because she couldn't get an abortion. In other realities, she died because of malpractice by a combination of health providers. Most people pick one of the other without having any real information on which news providers are lying. Insome realities, a minor was raped and doctors refused to allow plan b or any other treatment to terminate the pregnancy because of Indiana abortion law. IN other realities, a minor was raped by her mother's live-in illegal alien boyfriend and she didn't get care early because the mother didn't want to address the fact that her boyfriend had sex with her daughter, and when somebody that's a mandatory reporter actually got involved, they made a political statement rather than caring for the minor.

Certainly in each of those cases, one reality seems much more credible, but nobody can really be sure whether what is credible is determined by actual reality or their biases. Nobody but me obviously. The second scenario in both situations are obviously the correct reality.
 

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Had a neighbor few years ago with opposing yard signs for a city council race. I was like damn, you know he’s not getting any till that elections over.
If I were running for office I wouldn't even have my own yard sign in my yard, I hate those damn things
 

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People live in completely different realities depending on the media they consume. In some realities, a woman from Georgia died because she couldn't get an abortion. In other realities, she died because of malpractice by a combination of health providers. Most people pick one of the other without having any real information on which news providers are lying. Insome realities, a minor was raped and doctors refused to allow plan b or any other treatment to terminate the pregnancy because of Indiana abortion law. IN other realities, a minor was raped by her mother's live-in illegal alien boyfriend and she didn't get care early because the mother didn't want to address the fact that her boyfriend had sex with her daughter, and when somebody that's a mandatory reporter actually got involved, they made a political statement rather than caring for the minor.

Certainly in each of those cases, one reality seems much more credible, but nobody can really be sure whether what is credible is determined by actual reality or their biases. Nobody but me obviously. The second scenario in both situations are obviously the correct reality.
Nuance is dead. We tidy uncomfortable topics into neat little buckets of right/wrong, good/evil, etc. This helps some people not interested or not capable in complex thought make a decision and sleep better at night. But the biggest winners are the politicians who run their campaigns catered to that. As a result, we have a voting population convinced they are inherently good while the opposite is the dark side. I've have to end friendships (not many fortunately) bc my eternity was judged to belong in hell solely due to political opinion.
 
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horshack.sixpack

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I remember growing up - who you voted for was more of a private matter. Is it 100% bc of social media?
When we allowed politicians to convince us that "they" are all evil and we can just write off half the country as less than because we are in a perpetual existential culture war that must be won at all costs. I can't know who to hate if I don't know who is on my side in the war, and God knows our political identity is the most important thing in our lives.
 
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Me and my truck are for Amy Tuck
Just last night I mentioned this bumper sticker slogan to one of my kids when we were talking about memorable political slogans.
I got to MSU in '99 and saw that bumper sticker all over the place.

So funny that a quarter century later its easily remembered by many.
 

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Funny story, 2016 my brother-in-law got tired of the polling calls so he decided to talk with one instead of hanging up on them. The young lady he talked with asked who he planned to vote for. He said that was personal. She hounded him for an answer but he wouldn't tell her. Finally he said, "How about I ask you a personal question?" She said, "OK." He said, "What color panties are you wearing?" She hung up.
 
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