Whitmore Redshirting 2024 season

onewoof

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My advice is every player on every team everywhere should redshirt if they aren't getting paid at least 20% of what the highest paid player is getting. How demoralizing is that. I'm a rented mule and this other guy is riding in a Bentley and already has more money than I'll ever see in my life. Why risk your health like that.
 

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I guess my question is how does it align with the scholarship money and academic eligibility? Seems like the easy way to police this would be to eliminate these kids from being eligible at the next stop, or at least forcing them to pay tuition for the full semester and revoking their scholarship.

Example - athletic scholarship requires full participation for each calendar year, or until graduation….whichever comes sooner. If you quit outside of the designated transfer portal windows, scholarship is revoked and all tuition for at least the previous calendar year must be repaid. Or, scholarship athletes are not granted an early academic withdrawal date. If they enroll at all, they must finish the semester. If they do not, they fail all coursework, and are automatically ineligible at the next stop. So, if someone wants to quit midseason but still retain eligibility, they gotta pay their own way for at least the current and previous semester, and they have to stay enrolled as full time students and pass their classes.
You don’t think where they transferring will pay that semesters worth of school? Peanuts
 

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So does he still dress out? Is he still on the team and does he still have use of the facility? This crap is as 17ed up as a football bat. The more I think about it the angrier I get. I blame these guys
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I'll go ahead and mention that a white WR quits when the white QB is out for the season, replaced by a black QB. Purely speculation but someone somewhere will bring it up at some point. Birds of a feather quit together, stay together. I've seen it before on teams I've played on many years ago.
The saddest part of this post is that you're fully aware it's not true.
 

Perd Hapley

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You don’t think where they transferring will pay that semesters worth of school? Peanuts
Still doesn’t matter if they are ineligible.

Its all just me playing devil’s advocate, though. It doesn’t matter, because whatever common sense reforms need to happen to restore sanity are not ever going to happen. It’s going to be the opposite, actually, as it has been for the past 15 years.

I remember thinking that whenever Ole Miss and Alabama played, that I wished both teams could lose somehow. I now wish that that same thing about every pair of 2 teams I see playing an FBS football game when I’m just skimming through the channels. And yes….that includes MSU too. I truly wish everyone could go 0-12.
 

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Still doesn’t matter if they are ineligible.

Its all just me playing devil’s advocate, though. It doesn’t matter, because whatever common sense reforms need to happen to restore sanity are not ever going to happen. It’s going to be the opposite, actually, as it has been for the past 15 years.
I hope Whittemore would "redshirt" like anyone else that has redshirted in the past. Remain with the team and go to class to be eligible for the spring and fall of 2025. However, we all know this is probably a player decision rather than a coach's decision. I guess we will find out in a few months when the transfer portal opens.

Yep, Selmon and many other ADs are betting on this House V NCAA settlement to be a step in bringing NIL into the athletic departments and controlling NIL better. However, it seems that settlement being finalized and becoming reality is in jeopardy.
 

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The saddest part of this post is that you're fully aware it's not true.
No it would be crazy to think it's like a 1965 type thing. But it unfortunately is a perception that will be there. The perception that it may have played a part of the decision. May have not played a part at all. Just add it to the list of ever growing negative perceptions about the state of college football lately.

And unfortunately, in a general sense for all of these players leaving teams this week, even if a redshirt season is fully legit for personal reasons for a player, there's so much negative perception around players leaving teams right now.

What people don't like about the business of the NFL is the reality that many NFL players are there for the money primarily. Like Cam Newton recently was quoted as saying: "Man what really amazed me was looking into my bank account and seeing that same big weekly deposit hit win or lose." I'll let you speculate/reflect on his comments without adding my thoughts.

Who knows why players play the game. And who knows why players quit playing the game or leave a team. College football has such a growing negative, greedy, selfish vibe about it lately. Growing worse by the week this season. Who wants to see 22 players out there vying for the most attention and the most money. It's like paying to watch 22 senators work a room of lobbyists. Disappointing and pointless.

And why is Saban up on the hill promoting "fair play" amongst all teams. My God, the hypocrisy.

I wonder if you asked Dak this week if he'd rather have more money or win more games, what would he say. I bet many players would look at it and say who gives a crap about winning when you have more money than anyone else in the league.
 
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At least spell the guy’s name right. We expect the most out of our teams but can we not give minimal effort to spell someone’s name correctly when it’s right there in the article you linked.
Who gives a 17 at this point? He’s headed to FAU or FIU, or Miami or somewhere in Florida at this point anyway.
 
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I'll go ahead and mention that a white WR quits when the white QB Purely speculation but someone somewhere will bring it up at some point. Birds of a feather quit together, stay together. I've seen it before on teams I've played on many years ago.
Speculation hell, look in the mirror, YOU brought it up!
 
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Speculation hell, look in the mirror, YOU brought it up!
Yes because I have been on teams before and I know it's entered the mind of some of the players on the team. Race isn't nearly as much of a factor these days but to pretend it's not at all ever a tiny factor or thought. Come on.
 

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So redshirts are now a last resort now to preserve a year of eligibility. Imagine the phone calls happening tonight and tomorrow before the 5th game. Isn't that when you have to quit by?

What am I missing from this list
  • Ain't paying enough
  • Ain't playing enough
  • Don't vibe with the team (for WHATEVER reason)
  • Provided girlfriend broke up with me
  • Don't like my roommate anymore
  • Coach at another school called and made big promises
  • New girlfriend at new school
  • Family misses me or got paid to get me to redshirt
I think you forgot having a QB of the same race****
 

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He committed to play for Leach, honored that commitment after his death by enrolling a month later that January. Arnett honored his commitment by completely changing our offense and firing all the offensive staff. No telling what the kid was promised in the days after Leach died.

I’m surprised any of those last Leach recruits are still here, never even got to play for him. ****** situation
 
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I was never a Lebby fan thru out the coach search. I felt like he probly was riding other people's coattails but I slowly bought in. I'm thinking my original opinion was accurate. He is gonna have to go thru a long learning curve. After he signed those 5 wr out of high school I thought look out now. Then he went and signed a few transfers too. You don't have to be an offensive savant to know they can't all play. Esp if your OL sucks. And you have no defense. And you can't stay on the field. No play no stay. We are in deep dookie I think
 

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From "How many of you are planning to skip watching on Saturday" to "When did you skip watching?" A brutal remaining schedule against top 20 and top 10 teams, potential humiliating game against a team nowhere near the top 20, decent starting QB is out, last year's third string looks like this year's third string (will he redshirt too if he could?), defense and offensive line look awful and lost and could use Starkville High's Chris Jones to stop by and give them a few pointers, and now this. I'd hold on to most of that $8 million until Lebby shows he can hire good assistant coaches and understands why you need to sign good lineman. It's easier to get a good receiver from memphis and Arky State than a DE or guard.
 

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Screw this. My level of caring goes down by the day.
I’m dumping YTTV. I was barely hanging on for the sports channels and my level of caring is basically zero. Last night I was channel surfing and there is nothing to watch worth a damn. And 70% of the time I change channels there is damn commercial on. I basically watch Netflix and a couple of other services. I’ll spend that $80 on ad free content. Rant is over…back to your regular 6pack content. 🫤
 

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I'll go ahead and mention that a white WR quits when the white QB is out for the season, replaced by a black QB. Purely speculation but someone somewhere will bring it up at some point. Birds of a feather quit together, stay together. I've seen it before on teams I've played on many years ago.
pro tip: It's better to keep your mouth shut and be suspected a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
 

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The sooner this version college football crashes and burns, the sooner we can get to something that we at least understand. Then we can either support it or forget it but at least we’ll know what it is.
 
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And what will be the solutions that balance fairness, opportunity for compensation, and roster stabilty? A link to a collective and some guilt trip that fans just give more. I hope it all burns down.
 

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I hope the next couple days we see hundreds more players do this. Maybe this will finally be the straw that broke the camel's back and cause something to change. I dunno who even has the power to change anything anymore though...is it the NCAA or the conferences themselves? Some circuit court judge somewhere? This **** ain't sustainable though and needs some regulations in place, pronto. I'll be watching NFL till then
 
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I'll go ahead and mention that a white WR quits when the white QB is out for the season, replaced by a black QB. Purely speculation but someone somewhere will bring it up at some point. Birds of a feather quit together, stay together. I've seen it before on teams I've played on many years ago.
Key in your comment is "many years ago". There is much less racism today than many years ago and will be less tomorrow than today. A big way to help speed along this progression is to not speculate and interject race into every situation. If I were to speculate, race has nothing at all to do with his decision. To borrow a phrase from a former coach we all know and love, "the only color that matters here is maroon green".
 

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I had this conversation with a buddy before the season, but I don't give a 17 about college football anymore. I watch way more of the NFL last year and this year. It sucks that legislatures and the NCAA completely 17ed up a great sport, but at this point I've just moved on from it. It isn't really even a part of my Saturdays anymore. I'll occasionally turn on a game at night when everyone else is in bed, but I haven't watched a full college football game at all this year. Now Sundays are for church and football.
 
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I’m dumping YTTV. I was barely hanging on for the sports channels and my level of caring is basically zero. Last night I was channel surfing and there is nothing to watch worth a damn. And 70% of the time I change channels there is damn commercial on. I basically watch Netflix and a couple of other services. I’ll spend that $80 on ad free content. Rant is over…back to your regular 6pack content. 🫤

We think a lot alike, I don't have any cable, YouTube TV, etc. I'm a graduate of YouTube University though (the original instructional version not YTTV) and am now working on my Masters then PhD. Too much free content out there to pay for ads and the crap that's on tv today for the small amount of time I actually sit in front of the tv.
 
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I'll go ahead and mention that a white WR quits when the white QB is out for the season, replaced by a black QB. Purely speculation but someone somewhere will bring it up at some point. Birds of a feather quit together, stay together. I've seen it before on teams I've played on many years ago.
This has to be one of the worst takes I've ever seen on this board. If Creed was getting the touches he should have been getting, it wouldn't matter if the QB was white, black, orange, or green.
 

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I say play everybody because you don't know who is going to be with you next season.
 

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I'll go ahead and mention that a white WR quits when the white QB is out for the season, replaced by a black QB. Purely speculation but someone somewhere will bring it up at some point. Birds of a feather quit together, stay together. I've seen it before on teams I've played on many years ago.
This might be the dumbest post ever on this board. And that is really saying something
 

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I don't blame Creed personally, but I blame the system that it is in place now. Look in the paper today, there are players all over the country that are bailing out on their teams and their head coach didn't die, their administration didn't hire incompetent personnel to run the athletic depts, they have starters out for the season. You can't say we have a unique set of circumstances that caused it, its everywhere. Players are digging their own graves personally and team wise. If nothing is done they are going to start seeing a lot of fans dressed as empty seats soon and that translates into no interest from fans which translates to spending their disposable income on something they actually enjoy instead of paying for the product on the field today.
 
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This has to be one of the worst takes I've ever seen on this board. If Creed was getting the touches he should have been getting, it wouldn't matter if the QB was white, black, orange, or green.
So the decision was made prior to the Shapen injury then. That clears up the potential perception I was describing.
 
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