Who’s getting PUMPED for some racing!!
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Used to love NASCAR back in the 70's through the early 00's.
Yep. F1 only 30 days away. Hitting a few of the races this upcoming season.
I have been to over a 100 Cup races, but only have been to 2 Cup races in last ten years. Still watch, but…
I have been to over a 100 Cup races, but only have been to 2 Cup races in last ten years. Still watch, but…
I grew up in Highland Park, Middletown Township, a five minute’s bike ride from Langhorne Speedway.
I was never a big NASCAR fan, but the science part interests me. Had the opportunity to sit in the pit with a team in Charlotte years ago. What an amazing experience. The feel of the power of the engines was overwhelming. I stood next to Terry Bradshaw for the National Anthem. I think he was part owner of a team at that time. Just a really cool experience. Also got to drive a couple laps at Pocono a couple years ago. Just can't sit and watch on TV, but I definitely respect what they do as drivers and teams.
That race is insane!! They reach 160mph on what looks like normal roads!
Do they still run this race? As a family we’re gonna do a LeMans (moms will be chillin in Paris) I’d like to do this one too.
20 years ago I'd say good luck. Today, I'd say pick your seat and parking.
Just get to racing. I don’t need these 2 hr pre race shows with forced “entertainment “.
F1 has it right when it comes to their 1 hr pre race. Almost 95% is stuff relevant to the race, not entertainment that sucks for the most part.
F1 has it right when it comes to their 1 hr pre race. Almost 95% is stuff relevant to the race, not entertainment that sucks for the most part.
If anyone wants to know why NASCAR went to
, listen to this...yet another case of a great business that was left to their kid(s) that had no idea what they were doing. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this through my work over the past 20 years. 
Don't know if this is too racy, but i have always loved Charlotte Rampling...
always had the look of defiance.
—-—Charlotte Rampling—-
enjoyed an unconventional “arrangement”——ménage-a-trois———with her agent and another man, a male model.
—-“I had 2 boyfriends which was racy at the time. We were all young. It was all chop and change. Quite a lot of things were experimental”—-
In “Max, Mon Amour”, she has sex with a chimpanzee.
Then, there was the naked “Playboy” layout.
Charlotte Rampling———icon and muse for “Swinging Sixties”——
always had the look of defiance.
—-—Charlotte Rampling—-
enjoyed an unconventional “arrangement”——ménage-a-trois———with her agent and another man, a male model.
—-“I had 2 boyfriends which was racy at the time. We were all young. It was all chop and change. Quite a lot of things were experimental”—-
In “Max, Mon Amour”, she has sex with a chimpanzee.
Then, there was the naked “Playboy” layout.
Charlotte Rampling———icon and muse for “Swinging Sixties”——
You are already late to the game... the 24 hours of Daytona was already run and outstanding race with bringing back my beloved GTP cars.
I was a big fan of Awesome Bill from Dawsonville (Bill Elliott). I had a Ford Thunderbird just like Bill and my wife said I often drove like him (I'm not tailgating Honey. I'm drafting".)
Loved her in The Verdict with Paul Newman.Don't know if this is too racy, but i have always loved Charlotte Rampling...
always had the look of defiance.
—-—Charlotte Rampling—-
enjoyed an unconventional “arrangement”——ménage-a-trois———with her agent and another man, a male model.
—-“I had 2 boyfriends which was racy at the time. We were all young. It was all chop and change. Quite a lot of things were experimental”—-
In “Max, Mon Amour”, she has sex with a chimpanzee.
Then, there was the naked “Playboy” layout.
Charlotte Rampling———icon and muse for “Swinging Sixties”——
Rusty Wallace was my guy. His black Miller Genuine Draft Thunderbird was a sweet looking ride. The battles between Rusty, Dale, Dale Jarrett, the Labonte Brothers, Davey Allison (RIP), Ernie Irvan, Bill Elliot, and others of that time was must see TV, wherever they were on the "TV dial"... Loved the rubbin', drafting, slingshot passes, and all the garage "secrets" for speed and handling. Used to watch every week...only watch 2 or 3 races a season now.
Too corporate now, really hate the "car of tomorrow" and all its progeny and homogenization of the cars. There's no brand distinction. Hate the "playoffs".
Had a brief role in the movie "Spy Games" with Redford and Brad Pitt. Always an alluring actress in every role she plays.Don't know if this is too racy, but i have always loved Charlotte Rampling...
always had the look of defiance.
—-—Charlotte Rampling—-
enjoyed an unconventional “arrangement”——ménage-a-trois———with her agent and another man, a male model.
—-“I had 2 boyfriends which was racy at the time. We were all young. It was all chop and change. Quite a lot of things were experimental”—-
In “Max, Mon Amour”, she has sex with a chimpanzee.
Then, there was the naked “Playboy” layout.
Charlotte Rampling———icon and muse for “Swinging Sixties”——
If anyone wants to know why NASCAR went to
I was going to ask what happened to Nascar that's caused its popularity to shrink so dramatically. Mind giving me a cliffs notes of this? Or personal opinion on what's wrong with the sport today compared to 20 years ago?
NASCAR‘s popularity rocket-ride was built on the backs of sweaty good ol boy swashbuckling drivers and their authentic personalities... likewise authentic “stock” cars of the era - up to eight different mfrs/brands, each offered personality - mechanically and aesthetically - of their own... add a heapin’ helpin‘ of authentic southern culture and certain smaller venues in hard-to-reach but colorful rural podunks ... most of this flavor/patina was washed away with corporate cash, corporate scale, and corporate attitude ...
the cars - reduced to just Chevy / Ford / Toyota... while exponentially safer, are wretched today (albeit slightly better aesthetically than the COT debacle) ... Spec-car racing, which NASCAR has become, is closer yet somehow manages to become inherently boring... too much meddling in the rules/season structure has alienated the core fans ... today cast of characters seem more at home on a network soap opera than wrenching on a car... these guys simply do not seem to be interesting at all these days ... GenZ does not give a rat’s ***, I tuned into this weekend’s event but was quickly underwhelmed... NASCAR is doomed
Langhorne? Wow!
Thats the track where my racing idol, Jimmy Bryan, back in the days lost his life. I see that that track is closed now.
This was a huge part, as well as what @massimoManca II said. The list of other missteps is too long to list, but it began as the CEO was too good to be at the track on Sundays. He acts like him not going to every race is equivalent to Goodell not going to all 16 football games on a weekend.
Drive to survive is coming to Netflix this month. Always a good way to relive last season.
Exact reason i do not follow Nascar now....of course i followed when our hometown Mario Andretti drove....60's and 70's was best! Pure Detroit muscle in a car i could buy....."Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday" was the motto then. In the 60's my grandparents had a country hotel in Danielsville, Pa...just outside LV...fast food hadn't begun yet so i would see the entire Andretti family come for dinner. I believe Mario is still one of a very few drivers to win Daytona, Indy, Sebring, Formula1 and so much more.
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Oh, it was torn down in 1971. It was a very dangerous track.
Langhorne Speedway - Wikipedia
Personalities are flat. Races are pretty flat especially if you can watch the start go do chores or errands for three hours and come back to see the last 25 laps and not have missed anything. The LA made for TV race had a lot of empty seats after a nice first time event in 2022. Speedway racing is a mess too. Who wants to see a train at 200 mph lap after lap and then a demolition derby at the end.
Cars are all the same, and the setups are essentially the same, so the drivers drive them pretty much the same in the same groove all around the tracks...which are also much more alike. No more Rockingham, North Wilkesboro, Ontario, Asheville. Too many ovals now, with similar banking. Some drivers still drive high, but the mandatory car and setup restrictions only allow for so much high racing.
I love the short tracks. Bristol, Richmond, NH - much more variability in the tracks allows the drivers to find more grooves, and actually shift gears once in a while.
Back in the day...say, pre-1992, cars were still stock for certain body parts and engine block. Once NASCAR went to the their Gen4 cars, gradually in 93-97, the stock pieces went away, and aerodynamics and downforce became the thing. Chevy started it, with a 4" narrower rear end and bumper from their stock Monte Carlo in the early 90's. Soon, all the manufacturers followed suit, and the cars became homogenous. NASCAR also cracked down on a ton of setup practices, making the cars even more similar. They took away the ability to make a car run "high" vs. low on the track, so the cars all handled the same and the massive pack that used to exist only at restrictor plate races at Talledega and Daytona, became the norm everywhere. No difference in HP or handling, and the cars all had one groove on the track to run. Restrictor plate "pack" racing everywhere! BLECH!!!!
Then came the car of tomorrow (2007-12) and the ******* Chase For The Cup "playoffs", and I was out for good.
I used to pay attention a bit to Tony Stewart or Kevin Harvick, as they were as close to throwbacks as the newer generation of drivers could be, but increasingly they were stifled by NASCAR (Helton, then France-the-pipsqueak) and their corporate sponsors.
Here ya go. Dale Jr. just shared this.Cars are all the same, and the setups are essentially the same, so the drivers drive them pretty much the same in the same groove all around the tracks...which are also much more alike. No more Rockingham, North Wilkesboro, Ontario, Asheville. Too many ovals now, with similar banking. Some drivers still drive high, but the mandatory car and setup restrictions only allow for so much high racing.
I love the short tracks. Bristol, Richmond, NH - much more variability in the tracks allows the drivers to find more grooves, and actually shift gears once in a while.
Back in the day...say, pre-1992, cars were still stock for certain body parts and engine block. Once NASCAR went to the their Gen4 cars, gradually in 93-97, the stock pieces went away, and aerodynamics and downforce became the thing. Chevy started it, with a 4" narrower rear end and bumper from their stock Monte Carlo in the early 90's. Soon, all the manufacturers followed suit, and the cars became homogenous. NASCAR also cracked down on a ton of setup practices, making the cars even more similar. They took away the ability to make a car run "high" vs. low on the track, so the cars all handled the same and the massive pack that used to exist only at restrictor plate races at Talledega and Daytona, became the norm everywhere. No difference in HP or handling, and the cars all had one groove on the track to run. Restrictor plate "pack" racing everywhere! BLECH!!!!
Then came the car of tomorrow (2007-12) and the ******* Chase For The Cup "playoffs", and I was out for good.
I used to pay attention a bit to Tony Stewart or Kevin Harvick, as they were as close to throwbacks as the newer generation of drivers could be, but increasingly they were stifled by NASCAR (Helton, then France-the-pipsqueak) and their corporate sponsors.
I’m not a race fan, but I recall Rusty would be “forced” as part of his contract to come to the Miller brewery where I worked when they raced up the road in Martinsville, VA. Our employees who were fans would stand in line (after work hours) waiting to meet him and I always heard he had zero personality as he merely sat at a table signing autographs, with very little to say.
Prior to Wallace, Miller sponsored Bobby Allison, and he was very well liked by the fans and came into the brewery and walked around meeting and talking to them.
Two completely different personalities.
p.s. Rusty’s MGD car sure was nice. I used to have a couple beer taps with that car, but not sure where they went. Bet my son could tell me.
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