Who’s next at Nebraska?

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So, it seems like a matter of when, not if, Scott Frost will be let go. Who gets that job? Nebraska has been a dumpster fire since firing Bo Pellini. Who would want the job? Trev Alberts is the new AD. Does he bring in another former Husker or go outside the program?
PSU finishes this season with a top 12 defense….Many Diaz to Cornville or equivalent somewhere else.
 

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Nebraska is still paying for getting rid of Frank Solich because they thought they could do so much better. Karma has been f n them ever since.
Solich was 58-19 in six years as head coach to further amplify your point.
 

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Solich was 58-19 in six years as head coach to further amplify your point.
The tough part of the Solich firing was timing. Nebraska had only the great Tom Osborne era as a benchmark. They had no idea that the explosion of scholarship parity and re-emergence of high level football at USC, Stanford, and Oregon would doom what had been a successful west coast recruiting formula for decades.

It’s easy in hindsight. At the time, 3-loss seasons felt awful compared to the 70s through 90s. I don’t think many of us would have predicted perennial losing seasons after Solich and Pellini.
 

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The tough part of the Solich firing was timing. Nebraska had only the great Tom Osborne era as a benchmark. They had no idea that the explosion of scholarship parity and re-emergence of high level football at USC, Stanford, and Oregon would doom what had been a successful west coast recruiting formula for decades.

It’s easy in hindsight. At the time, 3-loss seasons felt awful compared to the 70s through 90s. I don’t think many of us would have predicted perennial losing seasons after Solich and Pellini.
The other part of this is recruiting. I’ve heard people talk about it on TV and on XM. When Nebraska broke awake from the Big 8 and came to the B1G they alienated their own recruiting footprint. The kids they were getting from CA, OK, and TX didn’t want to play in the B1G. They haven’t recovered completely from that.
 

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The other part of this is recruiting. I’ve heard people talk about it on TV and on XM. When Nebraska broke awake from the Big 8 and came to the B1G they alienated their own recruiting footprint. The kids they were getting from CA, OK, and TX didn’t want to play in the B1G. They haven’t recovered completely from that.
Another good point. Both aspects of recruiting make sense.
 

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Nebraska is still paying for getting rid of Frank Solich because they thought they could do so much better. Karma has been f n them ever since.
People who are so eager to get rid of Franklin should think about this. PSU could easily become the next Nebraska. A lot of people want a “PSU guy” just like NU got their Nebraska guy. How’s that working for them?
 

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IMO, Nebraska, this year has been “portalized”. 15 transfers this year with many starting. How does that translate or work with the players that had been there. It caused Martinez to go bye bye. They ate the poison portal apple. They couldn’t do much in the second half at all.
 

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People who are so eager to get rid of Franklin should think about this. PSU could easily become the next Nebraska. A lot of people want a “PSU guy” just like NU got their Nebraska guy. How’s that working for them?
It’s a fair point. Though, it’s TBD what direction PSU is headed with Franklin. Coach just signed a 10-year contract. He’s not going anywhere for at least 5 years.

People can whine all they want. We’ll see where this ship sails with him. He will have had 14 years as head coach by that point. That’s hardly being run off too early.
 

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People who are so eager to get rid of Franklin should think about this. PSU could easily become the next Nebraska. A lot of people want a “PSU guy” just like NU got their Nebraska guy. How’s that working for them?

If you’re not competing in the CFP then 4-8 is the same as 8-4. It doesn’t matter. You make the same amount of money but maybe play in a better bowl game. You still have nothing substantive to show recruits. But if you are serious about winning, you keep trying to get better. That means firing coaches who are aren’t performing - like Franklin.
 
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So, it seems like a matter of when, not if, Scott Frost will be let go. Who gets that job? Nebraska has been a dumpster fire since firing Bo Pellini. Who would want the job? Trev Alberts is the new AD. Does he bring in another former Husker or go outside the program?
Frank Solich
 

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If OB didn't like recruiting at Penn State he's going to hate the f*ck out of it at Nebraska.
OB would love dealing with the alums etc at Nebraska. Remember Pelini's leaked tape recording? That would be vintage BOB.
 

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I just think they (Nebraska fans) don’t know their place in the BIG or the world of college football. They’re not elite. Not even close.
Nebraska's root problem is their recruiting base. They only have 1.9 million people in the state and if you look at their 300 to 400 mile radius for HS football, it;s really weak. Coaches that excel - and depend on - strong recruiting (like Urban Meyer) would not even consider them
 
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Nebraska's root problem is their recruiting base. They only have 1.9 million people in the state and if you look at their 300 to 400 mile radius for HS football, it;s really weak. Coaches that excel - and depend on - strong recruiting (like Urban Meyer) would not even consider them
Osborne’s success seemed to stem from three areas:

1. being able to stash away developmental walk-ons who contributed as Jrs and Srs (make PED comments here)
2. Recruiting west coast JUCO kids with issues who couldn’t get into top schools out of HS. This radically changed in the 00s with USC and Oregon re-emerging. Top kids went there.
3. An easy Big 8/12 schedule that really only had Oklahoma with a pulse most years. Colorado and UT bobbed up and down in the 80s and 90s.

Once 1 and 2 dried up, they were toast. I suspect Osborne saw this coming and that factored into him stepping down.
 

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Osborne’s success seemed to stem from three areas:

1. being able to stash away developmental walk-ons who contributed as Jrs and Srs (make PED comments here)
2. Recruiting west coast JUCO kids with issues who couldn’t get into top schools out of HS. This radically changed in the 00s with USC and Oregon re-emerging. Top kids went there.
3. An easy Big 8/12 schedule that really only had Oklahoma with a pulse most years. Colorado and UT bobbed up and down in the 80s and 90s.

Once 1 and 2 dried up, they were toast. I suspect Osborne saw this coming and that factored into him stepping down.

They recruited Florida well too (Tommy Frazier) and used to be able to haul elite talent at RB (Green, Phillips, Rozier, Craig) - I remember them beating us out for DeAngelo Evans who was hampered by injury (but still beat Barry Sanders HS rushing record in Kansas).
 

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With the watering down of the Pac - USC & UCLA along with OU & UT going to the SEC the coach or new coach will have to recruit the Rockies and Texas.

Scott Frost made a bad game decision with the onside kick, same as Franklin with his running play against OSU. The redemption for SF is to beat OU and win the Big West otherwise the Huskers will go into the death spiral.

The trouble like some fan bases i know their minds are made up already.
 

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Bring back the partial qualifiers. They are what elevated that program. I don't want to know their records, just their forty times.
 
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WestSideLion

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Frost's buyout goes from 15mil to 7 mil after Oct 1. For anyone betting over/under on firing date.
I’m on the fence about this. They brought Frost back on the hottest of seats. He needed 9-10 wins this year to stay on.

That was a huge distraction all off-season and will continue through the season. It unsettles recruits, etc.

Firing him mid season doesn’t prevent any of that. It’s already too late, so at this point, you let him coach out the chain and fire him at Thanksgiving.

I’m sure Albert is in touch with many agents and has been for the past year. He knew what a Hail Mary it was for Frost to turn this around in 2022.
 

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I’m on the fence about this. They brought Frost back on the hottest of seats. He needed 9-10 wins this year to stay on.

That was a huge distraction all off-season and will continue through the season. It unsettles recruits, etc.

Firing him mid season doesn’t prevent any of that. It’s already too late, so at this point, you let him coach out the chain and fire him at Thanksgiving.

I’m sure Albert is in touch with many agents and has been for the past year. He knew what a Hail Mary it was for Frost to turn this around in 2022.
Agree, but my thinking is that if your not sure what to do about your HC that is 15-30....it really shouldn't be that hard a decision.
 
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WestSideLion

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Agree, but my thinking is that if your not sure what to do about your HC that is 15-30....it really shouldn't be that hard a decision.
I think it’s being mainly driven by Frost’s status as a beloved alum. That’s why I think he gets the benefit of coaching out the chain and then agreeing with Albert that it’s best to part ways.

It’s like the old adage about not doing business with family or good friends. It gets messy if things go south.

I doubt a firing gets Albert gets any further along in hiring the next coach than he already will be this fall.
 
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I think it’s being mainly driven by Frost’s status as a beloved alum. That’s why I think he gets the benefit of coaching out the chain and then agreeing with Albert that it’s best to part ways.

It’s like the old adage about not doing business with family or good friends. It gets messy if things go south.

I doubt a firing gets Albert gets any further along in hiring the next coach than he already will be this fall.
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People who are so eager to get rid of Franklin should think about this. PSU could easily become the next Nebraska. A lot of people want a “PSU guy” just like NU got their Nebraska guy. How’s that working for them?
Your fun fact for the day:

In the past six years, James Franklin has won as many major bowl games (two) as Pitt has since 1938. Two major bowl victories in the past 83 seasons for Pitt: the 1977 and the 1982 Sugar Bowls.
 

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Coaches that excel - and depend on - strong recruiting (like Urban Meyer) would not even consider them
Isn't that pretty much every coach? In all collegiate scholarship sports?
 

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nebby isn’t AAU. If they aren’t good at football, why are they even in the b1g? They need to bring a lot more than women’s volleyball.
 
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Nebraska's root problem is their recruiting base. They only have 1.9 million people in the state and if you look at their 300 to 400 mile radius for HS football, it;s really weak. Coaches that excel - and depend on - strong recruiting (like Urban Meyer) would not even consider them

And only 200 of them wear shoes.
 
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