Will Chadwell take the Flames to the College Football Playoffs?

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Without doing any research and this is just a blind guess but these are the teams that will be fighting for the Group of Five lone College Football Spot?

United States Air Force
Boise State
Frenso State
Memphis
San Antonio
South Florida
Tulsa
Liberty
Jacksonville State
Western Kentucky
James Madison
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Western Michigan
Buffalo

In this group who will be the highest rank team and awarded the one slot for the playoffs?

 

[SC95]

Liberty is committed to football and has the money to follow through on its commitment. I'm not suggesting that it can compete with the SEC, but it can best the other G5 schools.

 

[18IsTheMan]

He better. With the diluting down of the playoffs, the seat for several coaches will get hotter a lot faster. I don't think Liberty is a "playoff or bust" program, but where making the 4-team playoff was a major accomplishment, making the expanded playoffs will be the minimum expectation for a number of schools.

PSU jumps to mind as the prime example. Most of my family lives in PA and are PSU fans. Franklin is in that awkward middle ground of coaches. He hasn't done nearly bad enough to get fired, but he's obviously not a championship-caliber coach. PSU fans know they'll mostly always be about 10-11 win team while he's there. Just not quite good enough to be at the top. With the watering down of the playoffs, that will become the expectation for them. If they miss the playoffs a couple times, he'll be out. Previously, you wouldn't fire a top-10/15 type coach who wins 10-11 games a year.

Much the same thing that happened to bowls has happened to the playoffs. Used to be making a bowl was a major accomplishment. You could have a pretty good season and still not get a bowl. Now, it's the minimum expectation for nearly 70% of all teams in college football. If you don't get a bowl game, the season was an abject failure. For a certain group of teams, that will be the playoffs.

Yet, curiously, much like teams who scratch their way into a crappy bowl game but still celebrate it as an accomplishment, there will be teams who are not one bit improved over last season's record but get to jubilantly celebrate making the playoffs this year. Some people are just that stupid.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Without doing any research and this is just a blind guess but these are the teams that will be fighting for the Group of Five lone College Football Spot?

United States Air Force
Boise State
Frenso State
Memphis
San Antonio
South Florida
Tulsa
Liberty
Jacksonville State
Western Kentucky
James Madison
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Western Michigan
Buffalo

In this group who will be the highest rank team and awarded the one slot for the playoffs?

these 2 schools will most likely not be in competition for the MAC title, let alone a CFP spot
Most likely entries Liberty, Bosie or App St

 

[Carolina Doc]

This is one of the problems of the expanded playoff. None of those teams should be in it. The four team CFP used to mean something and those teams were deserved. Except for simply being just another football game to sit and watch, those additional games are a waste of both time and of an entire season of play.

 

[gamecock stock]

This is one of the problems of the expanded playoff. None of those teams should be in it. The four team CFP used to mean something and those teams were deserved. Except for simply being just another football game to sit and watch, those additional games are a waste of both time and of an entire season of play.

The same could be said about the NCAA basketball Tourney. I'm old enough to remember when there were far fewer teams in that tournament. I'm old enough to remember when McGuire's great USC basketball team was excluded from participating in the NCAA Tourney because of an upset in the ACC basketball tournament, due to an injury to Roche. The expansion of the number of teams participating was inevitable, good or bad.

 

[18IsTheMan]

This is one of the problems of the expanded playoff. None of those teams should be in it. The four team CFP used to mean something and those teams were deserved. Except for simply being just another football game to sit and watch, those additional games are a waste of both time and of an entire season of play.

It does have the distinct likelihood of wasting an entire season of play. If an SEC team were to come out of the conference 13-0, they now have win 3 more games to win the title instead of 2. That's significant. You just keep adding games, increasing the likelihood that a team slips up.

I was not a proponent of the playoffs in the first place, but it's hard to argue that one thing the 4-team playoff did get right is that the best team won every season.

The odds of that happening drop considerably with the 12-team playoff.

 

[Carolina Doc]

It was expanded to provide more games to watch and increase revenues. I don't know why the powers to be don't view conference championship games as a first round playoff game.

 

[18IsTheMan]

It was expanded to provide more games to watch and increase revenues. I don't know why the powers to be don't view conference championship games as a first round playoff game.

Right. I wish they would just come out and say: we are 100% only doing this for money.

 

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I was not a proponent of the playoffs in the first place, but it's hard to argue that one thing the 4-team playoff did get right is that the best team won every season.

The odds of that happening drop considerably with the 12-team playoff.

North Dakota State disagrees with this statement.

 

[RUMMENIGGE]

I was not a proponent of the playoffs in the first place, but it's hard to argue that one thing the 4-team playoff did get right is that the best team won every season.

The odds of that happening drop considerably with the 12-team playoff.

Are you saying it would be very unlikely Georgia would beat Michigan if they played each other last season?

 

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[18IsTheMan]

North Dakota State disagrees with this statement.

I don't follow Pop Warner.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Are you saying it would be very unlikely Georgia would beat Michigan if they played each other last season?

Last year was not a 12-team playoff.

 

[Blues man]

I have a hard time believing a conference USA champion will end the year with a higher strength of schedule than that of a Mountain West or AAC champion. To have any chance whatsoever imo, they best have a pretty dog gone strong OOC schedule... which could also play against them if they dont win those games. Can't say I like their odds... and that's from someone who likes Liberty.

 

[Bubba Fett]

Liberty's offense will, once again, be very potent. The defense not so much, but they just have to get in the way and give their O a chance.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Nobody who plays all of the following teams should even be allowed to buy a ticket to the playoffs: Campbell, FIU, Kennesaw State, MTSU, UMass, Sam Houston, UTEP,

 

[Uscg1984]

It does have the distinct likelihood of wasting an entire season of play. If an SEC team were to come out of the conference 13-0, they now have win 3 more games to win the title instead of 2. That's significant. You just keep adding games, increasing the likelihood that a team slips up.

I was not a proponent of the playoffs in the first place, but it's hard to argue that one thing the 4-team playoff did get right is that the best team won every season.

The odds of that happening drop considerably with the 12-team playoff.

Every expansion of a playoff increases the randomness factor, for sure. Whether that is good or bad, depends on your perspective, I guess. If you love watching cinderella teams upset the big boys, then you like it. If you like epic national championship games featuring the two best teams in the country, you hate it.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

This is one of the problems of the expanded playoff. None of those teams should be in it. The four team CFP used to mean something and those teams were deserved. Except for simply being just another football game to sit and watch, those additional games are a waste of both time and of an entire season of play.

It used to be about seasonal play, but things have changed.

 

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Nobody who plays all of the following teams should even be allowed to buy a ticket to the playoffs: Campbell, FIU, Kennesaw State, MTSU, UMass, Sam Houston, UTEP,

Can not fault the Flames conference schedule, but they should be penalized for their out of conference schedule

 

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I have a hard time believing a conference USA champion will end the year with a higher strength of schedule than that of a Mountain West or AAC champion. To have any chance whatsoever imo, they best have a pretty dog gone strong OOC schedule... which could also play against them if they dont win those games. Can't say I like their odds... and that's from someone who likes Liberty.

I thought that Southern Methodist should have played in the Fiesta Bowl, but yet Liberty was given the spot to play Oregon.

 

[RUMMENIGGE]

He better. With the diluting down of the playoffs, the seat for several coaches will get hotter a lot faster. I don't think Liberty is a "playoff or bust" program, but where making the 4-team playoff was a major accomplishment, making the expanded playoffs will be the minimum expectation for a number of schools.

PSU jumps to mind as the prime example. Most of my family lives in PA and are PSU fans. Franklin is in that awkward middle ground of coaches. He hasn't done nearly bad enough to get fired, but he's obviously not a championship-caliber coach. PSU fans know they'll mostly always be about 10-11 win team while he's there. Just not quite good enough to be at the top. With the watering down of the playoffs, that will become the expectation for them. If they miss the playoffs a couple times, he'll be out. Previously, you wouldn't fire a top-10/15 type coach who wins 10-11 games a year.

Much the same thing that happened to bowls has happened to the playoffs. Used to be making a bowl was a major accomplishment. You could have a pretty good season and still not get a bowl. Now, it's the minimum expectation for nearly 70% of all teams in college football. If you don't get a bowl game, the season was an abject failure. For a certain group of teams, that will be the playoffs.

Yet, curiously, much like teams who scratch their way into a crappy bowl game but still celebrate it as an accomplishment, there will be teams who are not one bit improved over last season's record but get to jubilantly celebrate making the playoffs this year. Some people are just that stupid.

A few other names maybe not imminent but eventually I would put on hot seat.

Luke Fickell Wisconsin
Lincoln Riley Southern California
Brian Kelly Louisiana State
Mike Elko Texas AM
Hugh Freeze Auburn
Josh Heupel Tennessee
Mario Cristobal Miami
Spencer Danielson Bosie State

 

[Lurker123]

A few other names maybe not imminent but eventually I would put on hot seat.

Luke Fickell Wisconsin
Lincoln Riley Southern California
Brian Kelly Louisiana State
Mike Elko Texas AM
Hugh Freeze Auburn
Josh Heupel Tennessee
Mario Cristobal Miami
Spencer Danielson Bosie State

I was about to argue the inclusion of Elko. He hasn't coached a game there yet.

But then I thought about it, and you're right. He probably soon will be.

 

[gamecock stock]

A few other names maybe not imminent but eventually I would put on hot seat.

Luke Fickell Wisconsin
Lincoln Riley Southern California
Brian Kelly Louisiana State
Mike Elko Texas AM
Hugh Freeze Auburn
Josh Heupel Tennessee
Mario Cristobal Miami
Spencer Danielson Bosie State

Would Dabo be on that list if the next year or so are like the past 3 seasons? Clemson finished among the Top 4 in the nation from 2015-20. They have not finished in the Top 10 in the past 3 seasons, finishing number 20 this past season? I'd say probably not but you never know with that bunch.

 

[Carolina Doc]

Are you saying it would be very unlikely Georgia would beat Michigan if they played each other last season?

Georgia had their chance. They blew it. And yes, having seen Michigan I'm not sure at all that Georgia would beat them.

 

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Would Dabo be on that list if the next year or so are like the past 3 seasons? Clemson finished among the Top 4 in the nation from 2015-20. They have not finished in the Top 10 in the past 3 seasons, finishing number 20 this past season? I'd say probably not but you never know with that bunch.

I think the only way head coach at clemson ends up on hot seat if clemson joins the SEC or the Big Ten and his team is not making it to the conference championship games. I think he may step down at clemson if the tigers end up joining the SEC or Big Ten.

As long as clemson stays in the ACC, I think they will always have a shot at a conference championship game which could or will lead them to the college football playoffs.

 

[KingWard]

It does have the distinct likelihood of wasting an entire season of play. If an SEC team were to come out of the conference 13-0, they now have win 3 more games to win the title instead of 2. That's significant.

One of those games will be at home, though.