Would Joe coach today?

[Nitt1300]

I wonder if he would.

His values are certainly not what seems to be valued in college football today. Sure, he cared about winning, but he insisted on academics first, was unfailingly loyal to players and to the University. I think he might feel he was holding his nose to be involved in what passes for college football today. He might prefer to teach literature.

 

[PearlandLion]

I wonder if he would.

His values are certainly not what seems to be valued in college football today. Sure, he cared about winning, but he insisted on academics first, was unfailingly loyal to players and to the University. I think he might feel he was holding his nose to be involved in what passes for college football today. He might prefer to teach literature.

No. He’s dead.

 

[PSUJam]

His values are certainly not what seems to be valued in college football today.

Bloomsburg, Lockhaven, and Lehigh would suit him fine these days.

 

[Nitt1300]

No. He’s dead.

thanks for the update

 

[91Joe95]

Joe could relate to players in any era. He also had such a good relationship with donors thar NIL deals would probably resemble the old McDonald's promotions where you got free stuff for getting A's on the report card. He and PSU would have been fine.

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[PSUJam]

Joe could relate to players in any era. He also had such a good relationship with donors thar NIL deals would probably resemble the old McDonald's promotions where you got free stuff for getting A's on the report card. He and PSU would have been fine.

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Mmmm-mmmmmm Milano!

 

[Nitt1300]

Joe could relate to players in any era. He also had such a good relationship with donors thar NIL deals would probably resemble the old McDonald's promotions where you got free stuff for getting A's on the report card. He and PSU would have been fine.

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That says that he could coach today- but would he? I have my doubts about that.

 

[NL2017]

Cosa sei un cretino!!!

 

[rudedude]

Mmmm-mmmmmm Milano!

I was thinking of the same ad!

 

[PSUJam]

I was thinking of the same ad!

I couldn't find it on YouTube.

 

[rudedude]

I couldn't find it on YouTube.

 

[JohnJumba]

No. He’s dead.

Great 6th post.

 

[LB99]

Joe could relate to players in any era. He also had such a good relationship with donors thar NIL deals would probably resemble the old McDonald's promotions where you got free stuff for getting A's on the report card. He and PSU would have been fine.

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I appreciate your unabashed love for Joe. However, his last decade (at least) of coaching was a mix of pretty good to very mediocre, mixed in with the dark years. He struggled to recruit the top players in PA and frequently struggled to beat Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Ohio State. He was the top dog in his prime, but to surmise that he was at the top of his game in the 2000’s is looking back very optimisticly.

 

[Nits74]

That says that he could coach today- but would he? I have my doubts about that.

I've been thinking the same thing over the last few weeks. I think in today's world, he would be happier coaching in the Ivy League. As a fan I find my self envying the Ivies more and more of late. Truth is, this really is not college football anymore. It has evolved (devolved) into nothing more than a developmental league for the NFL, which inequitably favors only the relative few.

 

[Midnighter]

I mean - 70+ year old Joe with decades under his belt in the old system? Probably not. 40 year old Joe? Sure, why not?

 

[91Joe95]

That says that he could coach today- but would he? I have my doubts about that.

I think he would. He was very competitive by his very nature, and also enjoyed trying to help. Players have always been paid, now it's just out in the open. He always said players should be paid, get a stipend, whatever you want to call it, so I just don't see it being an issue for him.

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[WDLion]

I appreciate your unabashed love for Joe. However, his last decade (at least) of coaching was a mix of pretty good to very mediocre, mixed in with the dark years. He struggled to recruit the top players in PA and frequently struggled to beat Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Ohio State. He was the top dog in his prime, but to surmise that he was at the top of his game in the 2000’s is looking back very optimisticly.

His last six years are on par with any six years in Penn State football history.

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

I think he would. He was very competitive by his very nature, and also enjoyed trying to help. Players have always been paid, now it's just out in the open. He always said players should be paid, get a stipend, whatever you want to call it, so I just don't see it being an issue for him.

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Dude...you gotta get rid of that pic or I will be forced to put you on ignore!!!!! Running low on paper towels!

 

[marshall23]

He'd be too old....even for Joe. It's silly to take someone who was raised in the 20's and 30's of the last century and drop them in this time and date. Had Joe been born with the same qualities and raised in the 60's or 70's damn straight he could coach.

 

[BrucePa]

He would be the best football coach Harvard ever had.

 

[AvgUser]

He would be the best football coach Harvard ever had.

Not Brown?

 

[LB99]

His last six years are on par with any six years in Penn State football history.

Fair enough. Interesting that you picked the last six years ignoring the previous 5 where he averaged just over 5 wins per season. 2005 and 2008 certainly were good seasons but that last six years also include losses to the usual teams, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and even Illinois.
Listen, I loved Joe. He built the PSU brand from the ground up. He had a vision and he achieved it. However, looking back at his time and thinking everything was great when it ended probably isn’t being completely honest with ourselves.

 

[Tom_PSU]

Without antagonizing some people, at $7.5 million per year he just might. Remember he was quite willing to jump into pro football as head coach of the Patriots for a million before Sue intervened.

 

[WDLion]

Fair enough. Interesting that you picked the last six years ignoring the previous 5 where he averaged just over 5 wins per season. 2005 and 2008 certainly were good seasons but that last six years also include losses to the usual teams, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and even Illinois.
Listen, I loved Joe. He built the PSU brand from the ground up. He had a vision and he achieved it. However, looking back at his time and thinking everything was great when it ended probably isn’t being completely honest with ourselves.

Interesting that many dwell on the dark years and one 7-6 season and ignore the three 11 win seasons with being reffed out of several wins.
I know, the dark years were due to coaching and the good years were because of players.

 

[91Joe95]

I appreciate your unabashed love for Joe. However, his last decade (at least) of coaching was a mix of pretty good to very mediocre, mixed in with the dark years. He struggled to recruit the top players in PA and frequently struggled to beat Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Ohio State. He was the top dog in his prime, but to surmise that he was at the top of his game in the 2000’s is looking back very optimisticly.

I've said it before, but Joe's biggest problem was class sizes, not ability to recruit. He simply didn't run kids off. Whether you consider that a bad thing or not is up to you, but even in his later years when he had 20+ recruits he had monster classes.

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[Bkmtnittany1]

I've said it before, but Joe's biggest problem was class sizes, not ability to recruit. He simply didn't run kids off. Whether you consider that a bad thing or not is up to you, but even in his later years when he had 20+ recruits he had monster classes.

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WTF! That's it...I am done!!!

 

[FHSPSU67]

Without antagonizing some people, at $7.5 million per year he just might. Remember he was quite willing to jump into pro football as head coach of the Patriots for a million before Sue intervened.

And Sue would intervene again

 

[PSUJam]

I've said it before, but Joe's biggest problem was class sizes, not ability to recruit. He simply didn't run kids off. Whether you consider that a bad thing or not is up to you, but even in his later years when he had 20+ recruits he had monster classes.

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Much better.

 

[LB99]

I've said it before, but Joe's biggest problem was class sizes, not ability to recruit. He simply didn't run kids off. Whether you consider that a bad thing or not is up to you, but even in his later years when he had 20+ recruits he had monster classes.

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I guess that’s why they didn’t take Kevin Jones, Chad Henne, Terrelle Pryor, or Chris Sims? They didn’t have room on the roster?

 

[Nitt1300]

His last six years are on par with any six years in Penn State football history.

with 1968-1973? I don't think so

 

[Nits74]

I think he would. He was very competitive by his very nature, and also enjoyed trying to help. Players have always been paid, now it's just out in the open. He always said players should be paid, get a stipend, whatever you want to call it, so I just don't see it being an issue for him.

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I remember his supporting a stipend so that the kids could enjoy the college life along with their fellow students. But, I don't think he would support what's going on now, which didn't have to be if only the NCAA were just a little more reasonable. Now, we're looking at huge money deals, transfer portals; even less attention to education, etc. This free for all just doesn't seem to match the persona of the Joe Paterno I remember.

 

[LB99]

Interesting that many dwell on the dark years and one 7-6 season and ignore the three 11 win seasons with being reffed out of several wins.
I know, the dark years were due to coaching and the good years were because of players.

I never ignored those seasons. I was at games during those years. They were good teams and the ‘05 Ohio State game was my favorite game I ever attended. I know my opinion is going to elicit some strong responses from the Joe loyalists. I expect that, but I also feel like I’m looking at it realistically. For instance, the 2009 11-2 team only beat one ranked team all season. They got manhandled at home by an unranked Iowa team and lost by 17 to Ohio State. The rest of the schedule was not the toughest. Akron, Syracuse, Temple, Eastern Illinois, Minnesota, Illinois, Northwestern. As for the players vs coaches being responsible for the dark years, if you are going to blame the players, you can’t ignore who recruited those players? Jay was the director of recruiting during that time frame, which it looks like he was in way over his head and probably didn’t deserve that role. Again, I loved Joe. He was the best in his prime. I’m just being realistic about the last years. I respect your opinion. Everybody is entitled to their opinion.

 

[psuro]

Without antagonizing some people, at $7.5 million per year he just might. Remember he was quite willing to jump into pro football as head coach of the Patriots for a million before Sue intervened.

Sue did not “intervene”.

 

[BobPSU92]

Interesting that many dwell on the dark years and one 7-6 season and ignore the three 11 win seasons with being reffed out of several wins.
I know, the dark years were due to coaching and the good years were because of players.

Joe was turrible.

 

[pap]

I wonder if he would.

His values are certainly not what seems to be valued in college football today. Sure, he cared about winning, but he insisted on academics first, was unfailingly loyal to players and to the University. I think he might feel he was holding his nose to be involved in what passes for college football today. He might prefer to teach literature.

He would have coached , or tried to no matter what The era would not have mattered The problem was he had no hobbies , Sue could not put up with him on a regular basis , and he didn't want to be grandpa

In short he would be but with moderate success at best , You can't run a high school O in todays game , he tried and it didn't work

 

[leinbacker]

He would have coached , or tried to no matter what The era would not have mattered The problem was he had no hobbies , Sue could not put up with him on a regular basis , and he didn't want to be grandpa

In short he would be but with moderate success at best , You can't run a high school O in todays game , he tried and it didn't work

wonder if James Franklin has any hobbies

 

[91Joe95]

I never ignored those seasons. I was at games during those years. They were good teams and the ‘05 Ohio State game was my favorite game I ever attended. I know my opinion is going to elicit some strong responses from the Joe loyalists. I expect that, but I also feel like I’m looking at it realistically. For instance, the 2009 11-2 team only beat one ranked team all season. They got manhandled at home by an unranked Iowa team and lost by 17 to Ohio State. The rest of the schedule was not the toughest. Akron, Syracuse, Temple, Eastern Illinois, Minnesota, Illinois, Northwestern. As for the players vs coaches being responsible for the dark years, if you are going to blame the players, you can’t ignore who recruited those players? Jay was the director of recruiting during that time frame, which it looks like he was in way over his head and probably didn’t deserve that role. Again, I loved Joe. He was the best in his prime. I’m just being realistic about the last years. I respect your opinion. Everybody is entitled to their opinion.

I actually blame Joe for the dark years. In the late 90s he changed recruiting to make a lot of camp offers. To his credit, he recognized the error and changed the recruiting. How many times was he stuck with 11 or 12 recruit class sizes because he didn't run people off? You miss a lot of players that way. Give him 20+ and he ended up with classes like the monster Odrick class. Other programs pulled in 25-30 recruits per year, which is the equivalent of an extra recruiting class or more every 4 years.

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[LB99]

I actually blame Joe for the dark years. In the late 90s he changed recruiting to make a lot of camp offers. To his credit, he recognized the error and changed the recruiting. How many times was he stuck with 11 or 12 recruit class sizes because he didn't run people off? You miss a lot of players that way. Give him 20+ and he ended up with classes like the monster Odrick class. Other programs pulled in 25-30 recruits per year, which is the equivalent of an extra recruiting class or more every 4 years.

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Ok. Who’s the girl and what’s the significance for your posts?

 

[s1uggo72]

I appreciate your unabashed love for Joe. However, his last decade (at least) of coaching was a mix of pretty good to very mediocre, mixed in with the dark years. He struggled to recruit the top players in PA and frequently struggled to beat Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Ohio State. He was the top dog in his prime, but to surmise that he was at the top of his game in the 2000’s is looking back very optimisticly.

Sounds about like the state of affairs today.

 

[Connorpozlee]

Sure Joe would coach today. What else was he going to do?