Would This Guy Be a Can't-Miss Hire?

[Uscg1984]

Since it's the time of year that we all start talking about the coaching carousel and speculating about which coaches might be "can't miss" hires, I thought I'd throw out a hypothetical. Let's say you are an SEC program looking to hire a new coach who can take you to a level you haven't seen in decades. The coach below has spent the last 5 years at a P5 program (not a perennial power, but not a bottom dweller, either) accruing the following record:

Year 1 6-5-1
Year 2 6-6
Year 3 7-5
Year 4 6-6
Year 5 9-2

Without question, year 5 was a big success, but does this body of work suggest this guy can turn an SEC team into a power house? Personally, if it were my SEC program, I'd be afraid we were about to hire a guy who was a one-hit wonder and hasn't yet demonstrated that he can build a program with sustained success.

But, as some of you may have guessed, based on the records, LSU thought differently when they hired Nick Saban and they clearly made the right decision in poaching him away from Michigan State. But, based on his record at Michigan State, who would have guessed he would go on to win 7 national titles? Had he stayed at Michigan State for 10+ years, would he have ever taken them to national-title-caliber heights, or would that sole 9-2 season remain the highlight of his tenure there?

 

[Deleted11512]

Since it's the time of year that we all start talking about the coaching carousel and speculating about which coaches might be "can't miss" hires, I thought I'd throw out a hypothetical. Let's say you are an SEC program looking to hire a new coach who can take you to a level you haven't seen in decades. The coach below has spent the last 5 years at a P5 program (not a perennial power, but not a bottom dweller, either) accruing the following record:

Year 1 6-5-1
Year 2 6-6
Year 3 7-5
Year 4 6-6
Year 5 9-2

Without question, year 5 was a big success, but does this body of work suggest this guy can turn an SEC team into a power house? Personally, if it were my SEC program, I'd be afraid we were about to hire a guy who was a one-hit wonder and hasn't yet demonstrated that he can build a program with sustained success.

But, as some of you may have guessed, based on the records, LSU thought differently when they hired Nick Saban and they clearly made the right decision in poaching him away from Michigan State. But, based on his record at Michigan State, who would have guessed he would go on to win 7 national titles? Had he stayed at Michigan State for 10+ years, would he have ever taken them to national-title-caliber heights, or would that sole 9-2 season remain the highlight of his tenure there?

Really good answer to the anon post earlier about how good coaches only need 3 years.

 

[Celtic Riot]

If I am Miss St, I am calling Jamey Chadwell.

 

[KingWard]

Since it's the time of year that we all start talking about the coaching carousel and speculating about which coaches might be "can't miss" hires, I thought I'd throw out a hypothetical. Let's say you are an SEC program looking to hire a new coach who can take you to a level you haven't seen in decades. The coach below has spent the last 5 years at a P5 program (not a perennial power, but not a bottom dweller, either) accruing the following record:

Year 1 6-5-1
Year 2 6-6
Year 3 7-5
Year 4 6-6
Year 5 9-2

Without question, year 5 was a big success, but does this body of work suggest this guy can turn an SEC team into a power house? Personally, if it were my SEC program, I'd be afraid we were about to hire a guy who was a one-hit wonder and hasn't yet demonstrated that he can build a program with sustained success.

But, as some of you may have guessed, based on the records, LSU thought differently when they hired Nick Saban and they clearly made the right decision in poaching him away from Michigan State. But, based on his record at Michigan State, who would have guessed he would go on to win 7 national titles? Had he stayed at Michigan State for 10+ years, would he have ever taken them to national-title-caliber heights, or would that sole 9-2 season remain the highlight of his tenure there?

No losing record on there, though. And Michigan State played well the whole time he was there. Plus, he went to a place with vastly greater resources and they knew it. Seven national championships? Really now, who PREDICTS something like that?

 

[KingWard]

If I am Miss St, I am calling Jamey Chadwell.

That's his shot, unless something decent opens up in the ACC or Big 12. What if Malzhan winds up at Arkansas? Opens up UCF. Or what if Arkansas calls Chadwell? Just throwing out some possibilities.

 

[Celtic Riot]

That's his shot, unless something decent opens up in the ACC or Big 12. What if Malzhan winds up at Arkansas? Opens up UCF. Or what if Arkansas calls Chadwell? Just throwing out some possibilities.

Exactly right. I guess the point is someone needs to call the guy and give him a shot. His system is unique he'll be thankful for the opportunity and stick around. Arky and Miss St really don't have anything to lose by doing so.

 

[Sweetwatergolf]

Exactly right. I guess the point is someone needs to call the guy and give him a shot. His system is unique he'll be thankful for the opportunity and stick around. Arky and Miss St really don't have anything to lose by doing so.

How many Power 5 schools has he turned down? Not sure he wants a "big time" job.
It would be nice to finally find out so everyone would be able to see if he really can handle it.

 

[will110]

How many Power 5 schools has he turned down? Not sure he wants a "big time" job.
It would be nice to finally find out so everyone would be able to see if he really can handle it.

From what I understand he's not gotten the opportunity to turn a "big time" job down.

 

[Sweetwatergolf]

From what I understand he's not gotten the opportunity to turn a "big time" job down.

I wasn't sure if he's been offered myself. I'm wondering why that is. Hope he gets his chance, then we may know if he's got what it takes.
I thought Napier was the man for Florida, but how wrong I look with that thought .

 

[Kappa Koch1]

People are afraid of hiring a coach and staff without any Power 5 connections. Most coaches who get a shot at the Power 5 from lower level or Group of 6 have some experience and connections to Power 5 teams. JC does not.

 

[FootballLVR]

And we had, what was it, 2 chances to get that guy. Imagine what Chadwell could do at USC. At least he had HC experience. I'm not down on Beamer but I'm guessing we would be in better shape than we are right now.

 

[Big JC]

And we had, what was it, 2 chances to get that guy. Imagine what Chadwell could do at USC. At least he had HC experience. I'm not down on Beamer but I'm guessing we would be in better shape than we are right now.

The fact he had done so well at Coastal, another South Carolina school, would have created a lot of buzz and optimism. The G5 thing would have been less concerning to me than the hiring of a position coach who had never been a head coach or even a coordinator.