Yankees New Bats

mstateglfr

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Other players/teams can use them and some do.
It complies with the very simple bat dimension rules.

So...cool, I guess.
 

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This bat isnt new. There were some in play last year in the Arizona fall league. They're just getting the attention now because of what the Yankees have done with them in four games
 

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The fat part of the bat is adjusted for each player to match where they most often contact the ball. So, whether they are supposed to use that part of the bat or not, it's the part of the bat that hitter uses.
exactly. Isnt much ado about nothing... i expect some sort of parameter to be set for it... might not happen this season due to the fact that the players union is so strong... but its for sure making a difference. Lot of science going into it.

Baseball is and has always been a cat and mouse game, this is one where the hitters snuck the cheese by the mouse.
 
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exactly. Isnt much ado about nothing... i expect some sort of parameter to be set for it... might not happen this season due to the fact that the players union is so strong... but its for sure making a difference. Lot of science going into it.

Baseball is and has always been a cat and mouse game, this is one where the hitters snuck the cheese by the mouse.
I'm not a fan of changing the rules after the season has started, and particularly before we really know how much impact the bats really have. But it could get crazy if the bats take off this season and then get banned.

I'm curious about how the bats affect hits outside the sweet spot? If the bat is fatter where the player usually hits the ball, doesn't it have to be smaller outside that area? Does that mean balls hit off that part of the bat have less chance of turning into hits?
 

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I'm not a fan of changing the rules after the season has started, and particularly before we really know how much impact the bats really have. But it could get crazy if the bats take off this season and then get banned.

I'm curious about how the bats affect hits outside the sweet spot? If the bat is fatter where the player usually hits the ball, doesn't it have to be smaller outside that area? Does that mean balls hit off that part of the bat have less chance of turning into hits?
yeah thats why i dont think the do anything this season... supposeldy so far all bats are up to teh standards agreed to by MLB and the players union.. so it'll be very difficult to change.

But yes the way i understand it.. they basically but the mass and the best part of the wood in the area the players make contact the most.. and shave down other portions of the bat where players dont hit it.... but again its all up to MLB/Players union standards
 

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Essentially seems like the same thing as fitted golf clubs. Each player is going to have their bat custom made to their swing. Not sure how you can really prevent it under the current rules. My guess is that any new rule would be something like the bat not being able to taper back down at the end. Has to be same diameter or larger as you go above the handle until you get to the end.

The only real advantage seems to be that balls hit off the end of the bat will not be swing and miss, but you’re not going to get nearly as much force as before on those. Otherwise it would make just as much sense to simply use a shorter bat.
 
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Essentially seems like the same thing as fitted golf clubs. Each player is going to have their bat custom made to their swing. Not sure how you can really prevent it under the current rules. My guess is that any new rule would be something like the bat not being able to taper back down at the end. Has to be same diameter or larger as you go above the handle until you get to the end.

The only real advantage seems to be that balls hit off the end of the bat will not be swing and miss, but you’re not going to get nearly as much force as before on those. Otherwise it would make just as much sense to simply use a shorter bat.
exaclty... some very smart people are figuring out where players make contact with pitches the most.. and designing/custom making bats taylored to the player to make the most explosive part of the wood in that area the player hits it the most... while shaving down other parts of the bat to stay within league specifications.

Smart... and for sure not a ... much ado about nothing type deal
 

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If it was the Detroit Tigers or someone doing it, it wouldn't be.
Of course it would be legal.

(a) The bat shall be a smooth, round stick not more than 2.61 inches in diameter at the thickest part and not more than 42 inches in length. The bat shall be one piece of solid wood.


NOTE: No laminated or experimental bats shall be used in a professional game (either championship season or exhibition games) until the manufacturer has secured approval from the Rules Committee of his design and methods of manufacture.


(b) Cupped Bats. An indentation in the end of the bat up to 1 1/4 inches in depth is permitted and may be no wider than two inches and no less than one inch in diameter. The indentation must be curved with no foreign substance added.


(c) The bat handle, for not more than 18 inches from its end, may be covered or treated with any material or substance. Any such material or substance that extends past the 18-inch limitation shall cause the bat to be removed from the game.


NOTE: If the umpire discovers that the bat does not conform to (c) above until a time during or after which the bat has been used in play, it shall not be grounds for declaring the batter out, or ejected from the game.


Rule 3.02(c) Comment (Rule 1.10(c) Comment):
If pine tar extends past the 18-inch limitation, then the umpire, on his own initiative or if alerted by the opposing team, shall order the batter to use a different bat. The batter may use the bat later in the game only if the excess substance is removed. If no Rule 3.02(c) (Rule 1.10(c)) on that play does not nullify any action or play on the field and no protests of such play shall be allowed.

(d) No colored bat may be used in a professional game unless approved by the Rules Committee.
 

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This was all a product of the sad state of the Brewers pitching staff. Is it an improved design? It might be, but we need way more data. My curiosity that, I have not found anywhere, is what the weight difference is between the tapered and non-tapered bat with the same sweet spot barrel size. They already approved the cupped bat many years ago to shave weight. A wood bat by material makeup has limitations to length diameter and weight with the necessary strength to survive. So does this take a 34 / 31 with a 2.5 inch barrel down to a 34 / 29? We know that weight reduction has proven to be a real positive for hitters. The idea that the sweet spot moving (center of mass) I am pretty sure that most people reading all this thinks it is a movement of 2 or 3 inches and I would doubt that can be accomplished. Because then why not just us a 29 or 30 inch bat. That sweet spot will be closer to your hands.

The MLB batting average over the past 25 years has gone from .265 to last years all time low of .238. So if this helps hitters, its good.
 

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This was all a product of the sad state of the Brewers pitching staff. Is it an improved design? It might be, but we need way more data. My curiosity that, I have not found anywhere, is what the weight difference is between the tapered and non-tapered bat with the same sweet spot barrel size. They already approved the cupped bat many years ago to shave weight. A wood bat by material makeup has limitations to length diameter and weight with the necessary strength to survive. So does this take a 34 / 31 with a 2.5 inch barrel down to a 34 / 29? We know that weight reduction has proven to be a real positive for hitters. The idea that the sweet spot moving (center of mass) I am pretty sure that most people reading all this thinks it is a movement of 2 or 3 inches and I would doubt that can be accomplished. Because then why not just us a 29 or 30 inch bat. That sweet spot will be closer to your hands.

The MLB batting average over the past 25 years has gone from .265 to last years all time low of .238. So if this helps hitters, its good.
I think the problem is, it won't so much help the batting averages so much as help the home run numbers. So it'll make the game even more unwatchable than it is today.
 
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I think the problem is, it won't so much help the batting averages so much as help the home run numbers. So it'll make the game even more unwatchable than it is today.
Look at the chart in the link. HR numbers haven't changed. You just can't take 4 games as anything in statistical proof.
 

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Look at the chart in the link. HR numbers haven't changed. You just can't take 4 games as anything in statistical proof.
They have gone up about 20% or so. 8 of the 9 years from 2016-2024 are higher than any year prior to then. I suspect this will make it worse.
 

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This was all a product of the sad state of the Brewers pitching staff. Is it an improved design? It might be, but we need way more data. My curiosity that, I have not found anywhere, is what the weight difference is between the tapered and non-tapered bat with the same sweet spot barrel size. They already approved the cupped bat many years ago to shave weight. A wood bat by material makeup has limitations to length diameter and weight with the necessary strength to survive. So does this take a 34 / 31 with a 2.5 inch barrel down to a 34 / 29? We know that weight reduction has proven to be a real positive for hitters. The idea that the sweet spot moving (center of mass) I am pretty sure that most people reading all this thinks it is a movement of 2 or 3 inches and I would doubt that can be accomplished. Because then why not just us a 29 or 30 inch bat. That sweet spot will be closer to your hands.

The MLB batting average over the past 25 years has gone from .265 to last years all time low of .238. So if this helps hitters, its good.
you lose leverage on a 29-30 inch bat.

There is a huge article on it.


There is another one that is behind a firewall that im not loaning out my password to read that explains it even better.

we do need more data... but per the artcile behind the firewall... every organzation are trying to get their hands on the bats

The yankees also analyzed all their hitters and made sure the bats sweet spot is where the players make contact the most. So now every bat has a specilaized sweet spot designed to perfectly fit the player
 
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Pedro was one of my favorites. Really cool to see his mentality in this clip. “Your bat just tells me where the hole is in your swing. Thanks for the K”
 

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It blows my mind the amount of money spent on youth baseball. It seems like kids go through more bats these days than 25 years ago when I was a kid. I feel for all the dads that just dropped $200+ on a bat with this coming out. He about to drop more money.