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since he is in a unique situation, one that has never happened before, there are no guidelines on whether they will let him play or make him sit one more year, as if he had gone to juco. Since the end of partial qualifiers, no one has done anything like this. They can say no.
Optimus Prime 4 said:
And if they do, they WILL get sued. His lawyer is probably gearing up right now for a big, fat ADA lawsuit. If he has done the coursework and made the grades, there is no reason to deny his eligibility. </p>
Don't they miss you over on Gene's?
And I don't have to "play the old ADA"...but I'm sure Powe's attorney will.
Bad PR for the SEC...refusing to let a student athlete with a learning disability play, even after jumping through all the NCAA hoops.
Let 'em go ahead....I assure you, it will not be pretty.
And I don't have to "play the old ADA"...but I'm sure Powe's attorney will.
Bad PR for the SEC...refusing to let a student athlete with a learning disability play, even after jumping through all the NCAA hoops.
Let 'em go ahead....I assure you, it will not be pretty.
Yes, I'm sure the sec is worried about bad PR from Powe and Ole Miss. Maybe it has something to do with the cheating that Ole Miss did in an attempt to get him eligible. I hope your not naive enough to think the NCAA keeps denying him because they just don't think he's smart enough. The bottom line it's an embarrassing situation.
topdog68 said:
Exactly what "cheating Ole Miss did" would you be speaking of? If we did, then why hasn't the NCAA busted us for it? You would think that, given the scrutiny Powe has received, if Ole Miss were cheating they would have discovered SOMETHING, now wouldn't they?</p>
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who can't read/write in school. You can say he is learning disabled and all that other ******** all day long, but the bottom line is he is a retard.
In the words of his mother, "Jerrel a good boy, he just can't read"............
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Ole Miss is not obligated to him. They don't owe him **** at this point with the exception of letting him in school if he is otherwise eligible. That doesn't mean they have to let him play one down of football. </p>
In the words of his mother, "Jerrel a good boy, he just can't read"............
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Ole Miss is not obligated to him. They don't owe him **** at this point with the exception of letting him in school if he is otherwise eligible. That doesn't mean they have to let him play one down of football. </p>
I don't think you cheated, I think your dubmass head coach realized that he needed the guy on his defense and jumped thru MANY hoops to get him in. Regardless, do you really think Ole Miss looks good continuing to fight for almost 4 years to get a guy on the football field, who STILL doesn't have a high school diploma????
...for one of you fools to call Powe a "retard".
And it's not about my saying that he is LD...the NCAA has recognized that he does indeed have a disability.
Doesn't matter at all if some message board moron believes it or not.
And it's not about my saying that he is LD...the NCAA has recognized that he does indeed have a disability.
Doesn't matter at all if some message board moron believes it or not.
OEMDawg said:
You do realize that in order to be admitted to ANY university in the state of MS, you MUST have a high school diploma.</p>But then again, you probably don't (for obvious reasons).
(And before you suggest otherwise...Ole Miss and MSU have virtually IDENTICAL admissions standards)</p>
The bottom line is this. The kid needs to be at a juco. If he has a learning disorder or whatever, a 4 year university is not the place he needs to begin his education. That's what is ********. Oh he has ada please let him come to a four year university to play football. Yall spin it like yall just want to give a kid a chance. ********, if the kid could not play football he would be just another kid. Let him go to juco first and prove he can make the grades and then I nor the NCAA will have any problem with it. It's the attempt to take the shortcut that pisses me off..
From Jared in Memphis: What is going on with "The Jailer" Jerrell Powe? I'm not an Ole Miss fan, but I am rooting for him to play college football. Does he have a shot to play this year?
Feldman: Powe is very excited these days and word out of Oxford is that he has good reason to be. He is on track academically (he was told he needed to pass 24 hours for the year and have at least a 2.0 GPA.), and I spoke to him last night and he said his GPA is 2.3 and he's going to have enough credit hours. Among the courses he said he took were Geology, English, Public Speaking and an African-American studies class. He took Algebra as well and says he will be taking it again in the summer. "Me and Algebra, well, that's kinda like going one-on-one with Jake Long," he said. (I think that means he's fired up about the challenge of it.)
Another big plus for Powe is that his wrist and back are feeling better and he's shed 38 pounds, going from a high of 381 to 343. He hopes to get down to 325 by the start of training camp. "I've been cutting out some of those fried foods I love so much," he said. "If I eat it, it's only maybe once a week."
I'm happy for Powe. Anyone who has ever gotten to know him knows how gregarious and likeable he is. He's been through so much just to get to college. Lots of other folks would've given up.
Feldman: Powe is very excited these days and word out of Oxford is that he has good reason to be. He is on track academically (he was told he needed to pass 24 hours for the year and have at least a 2.0 GPA.), and I spoke to him last night and he said his GPA is 2.3 and he's going to have enough credit hours. Among the courses he said he took were Geology, English, Public Speaking and an African-American studies class. He took Algebra as well and says he will be taking it again in the summer. "Me and Algebra, well, that's kinda like going one-on-one with Jake Long," he said. (I think that means he's fired up about the challenge of it.)
Another big plus for Powe is that his wrist and back are feeling better and he's shed 38 pounds, going from a high of 381 to 343. He hopes to get down to 325 by the start of training camp. "I've been cutting out some of those fried foods I love so much," he said. "If I eat it, it's only maybe once a week."
I'm happy for Powe. Anyone who has ever gotten to know him knows how gregarious and likeable he is. He's been through so much just to get to college. Lots of other folks would've given up.
...at virtually every university and college in the nation...INCLUDING MSU? I assure you, there are. With disabilities equally as severe as Powe's.
There is no doubt. But there is a reason the NCAA keeps denying him. Right? I mean **** do you think they just want to be mean to poor ol' Powe? My point about juco was had he gone to juco to begin with then we would not be having this conversation. On top of that do you really think he is gonna contribute after not playing for four years?
SasquatchReb said:
</p>yes, there are students that have a learning disability, but they are capable of reading and doing the college work with modifications such as extended time for tests and things like that. They are able to get into MSU without the aid of a legal team.
As far as his "high school diploma", I guarantee you that the only reason he has one is because he can play football, and some idiot teacher(s) didn't want to deny his family a chance at "stardom". I've seen it happen before as a former high school teacher.
And let me ask you this, oh paragon of virtue- do you really think Powe is in college right now if he couldn't play football?
If I were Ole Miss, I would be embarassed. And as far as the SEC, it doesn't speak well of your student athletes if they can't read.
God bless him. If he is a flop, see ya, adios, shut the book on him, just do something to end this limbo crap!
The Powe Saga
The fact of the matter is that he has busted his butt to get this far...most athletes would have given up a long time ago. In spite of what most might think, it was <span style="font-weight: bold;">his decision</span> to bypass JUCO. Will he contribute? We won't know until he hits the field in the fall.
The fact of the matter is that he has busted his butt to get this far...most athletes would have given up a long time ago. In spite of what most might think, it was <span style="font-weight: bold;">his decision</span> to bypass JUCO. Will he contribute? We won't know until he hits the field in the fall.
No, I assure you that there are dyslexic students just like Powe at MSU, Ole Miss, and EVERY college and university in the nation.
Actually, I don't think Powe completed the coursework required to receive a regular high school diploma until after he left Wayne County....that was the work the NCAA took issue with.
Well let me ask YOU this, oh paragon of virtue- how many MSU football players would be in college if they couldn't play football? Not too many...and the same holds true for Ole Miss and EVERY college football program.
Being a former teacher, you should understand that not being able to process information through reading (which is exactly what dyslexia is) does NOT mean someone lacks intelligence or has an inability to learn or be successful in the classroom. That is an assumption based on pure ignorance...which is what many in both of our fan bases have shown about Powe.
He luvs Ol Mis so much that he sat out THREE years jus so he cud where the red and blew. He gave up on the 2 year JUCO and strait to the NFL rout cuz he luvs those Rebles. Give him a brake cuz he has to pae for all those lawyer costs that he had acumulayted over those last THREE years and he aint gettin no help from any body, specially no Reble fans. Plulez excus my speling cuz I aint dum, I jus hav a lernin disbilite. Actuly, all playas that cant get in shud sign up fer this lernin disbilite.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I have nothing against J Powe but he did not meet the NCAA requirements to play as a freshman.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> If he had done what others in his situation were forced to do then he would have already graduated JC and be playing legitimately for UM instead of resorting to the legal system.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> I find it amazing that UM fans would come here and expect any type of sympathy for his situation.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> However, its comical that UM fans are so quick to defend Powe and applaud his courage and determination.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> I'd love to see how much everyone cared if he did not perform on the field this fall (Which I very seriously doubt happens.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> The legal system can not force UM or the NCAA to play Powe.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> The ADA has nothing to do with it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> Playing college football does fall under the ADA umbrella.)</p>
SasquatchReb, which nonqualifiers do you suggest qualify for LD status? 3 stars and above? 4 stars and above?
Is the LD qualification as rigorous as his 2 semesters at Ole Miss?
Does Phi Beta Kappa discriminate against LD students too?
Is the LD qualification as rigorous as his 2 semesters at Ole Miss?
Does Phi Beta Kappa discriminate against LD students too?
SasquatchReb said:
</p> Yeah, I've taught some kids that are dyslexic. He actually made very good grades. It sounds to me like Powe has a WHOLE lot more going on than just dyslexia. Most people with dyslexia are able to get a legit high school diploma and get into college without any difficulty.
As far as our football team, all I know is our players can read, and none of them took three years and a ton of red tape to get in. Other than a couple of JUCO's like Dominic Douglas and Anthony Johnson, who I guess isn't on the team right now went to Hargrave. I'm not saying that we've got Rhodes scholars, but by damn they can read. And all of them have a <17> high school diploma.
And if Powe is so smart, why the hell couldn't he get in on the first try like all the other thousands of people with dyslexia? The man was on a damn certificate track. You don't put someone with just dyslexia on a certificate track. Just because you have dyslexia, it doesn't mean that you can't read at all.
Bottom line: This guy shouldn't be in college and the only reason he is is because he can play DT. That's the only reason why Ole Miss is going through this. If he was 5'10, 210 and could run a 4.8 40, do you really think Ole Miss would be going through this? But no, you come over here and act like Ole Miss is doing something philanthropic for this guy, and the only thing Ole Miss really cares about is if his fat *** helps you win football games.
in a way, achieved the status of a mythical creature who, reportedly, can do wondrous things. Periodically, sightings are reported, yet no actual evidence exists of him playing a game for the Ole Miss football team.
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ATTENTION ALL STATE FANS: YOU MAY WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR TRACK TEAM. IT HAS A FRESHMAN NAMED O'NEAL WILDER WHO ALSO PLAYS FOOTBALL. HE WAS NOT QUALIFIED OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL IN 2007, HE TOOK SOME ******** CLASSES AT EAST MISSISSIPPI FOR THE FALL SEMESTER AND ENROLLED AT STATE TO PLAY FOOTBALL. I THOUGHT YOU HAD TO PLAY TWO YEARS AT JUCO BEFORE YOU COULD MOVE UP. I ADVISE ALL OF YOU TO SHUT THE $%%% UP WITH YOUR INFERIORITY COMPLEX. WE HAVE A MAN THAT CAN'T READ AND Y'ALL HAVE A COACH WHO RECRUITS MEN OF CHARACTER WHO SHOT UP THE SCHOOL. GET OVER IT.
"He is on track academically (he was told he needed to pass 24 hours for the year and have at least a 2.0 GPA.), and I spoke to him last night and he said his GPA is 2.3 and he's going to have enough credit hours."
El Gato must be really brilliant if he can only pull a 2.3 out of the classes he is taking.
El Gato must be really brilliant if he can only pull a 2.3 out of the classes he is taking.
And O'Neal Wilder could read well enough to pass whatever BS class that he took. And we didn't have to try to get him through the SEC and NCAA three years in a row to clear it. Also, since you apparently know so much about him, you will notice that he didn't play football in JUCO. That's why he didn't have to sit out two years. You ever wonder why he has four years of eligibility left? Same as Dyslexia Powe.
Also we don't have an inferiority complex, but apparently you have a superiority complex, which is probably worse becuase that means that you suck and you deny it.
Also we don't have an inferiority complex, but apparently you have a superiority complex, which is probably worse becuase that means that you suck and you deny it.
I think that Powe will be fine. In fact I imagine that if the football thing doesnt work out you may see his face on billboards with a 800 number. Hell, he would fit in perfectly with the Mississippi legislature. With his progress thus far I think he's a lock for UM law school. The sad thing about all of this (that I try to ignore) is that college sports used to be reserved for college students. Now they're just a developmental league for the pros. With the Powe stuff, pillowgate, and MSSTATE student athletes firing rounds ON CAMPUS I think there is no way to deny that. I'm sure when fall comes we will convince ourselves that our respective players deserve their free ride though.
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