
Amid angry fans, CEO says Pirates won't be sold
Pirates CEO Travis Williams said the organization is committed to winning but declared to frustrated fans that owner Bob Nutting will not sell the team.

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Amid angry fans, CEO says Pirates won't be sold
Pirates CEO Travis Williams said the organization is committed to winning but declared to frustrated fans that owner Bob Nutting will not sell the team.www.espn.com
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I'm sure he does want to win, as long as Cherington and Co can figure out how to do it without spending moneyBy all reports, Nutting is committed to winning. You know, he wants to win. He doesn't want to spend enough to bring in some offensive help or some much needed bullpen arms, but he wants to win.
So, there's that.
Bob Nutting? Sound like a Pornhub link!
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Not a pirate fan at all but that would be criminal.The lease on PNC Park is up in the not to distant future.
I think it is more likely that Nutting moves the team to another city than it is he sells. jmo
100%.Not a pirate fan at all but that would be criminal.
Baseball is looking to expand by two teams in the near future. If he were to move the team, then Pittsburgh would automatically jump to the forefront of getting one of the expansion teams. It might actually be the best thing that could ever happen to them.The lease on PNC Park is up in the not to distant future.
I think it is more likely that Nutting moves the team to another city than it is he sells. jmo
Me, I’m of the mind that “Don’t you dare move the ******* team” is something every owner needs to internalize from Day 1.Baseball is looking to expand by two teams in the near future. If he were to move the team, then Pittsburgh would automatically jump to the forefront of getting one of the expansion teams. It might actually be the best thing that could ever happen to them.
I agree, but as a lifelong Pirates fan, the only way they may be able to get out of the clutches of Bob nutting is if he were to move the team and then they would immediately jump to the forefront of the expansion choices. They’d have the best stadium available And I’m pretty sure there are a few people willing to be part of the ownership group. Right now it’s about a given that Nashville will get one of those two expansion teams, the other one will probably be Salt Lake City to balance out the new eight divisions of four once everything gets settled. If nothing decides to move the team to one of those two cities then Pittsburgh would take the expansion team slotted for it.Me, I’m of the mind that “Don’t you dare move the ******* team” is something every owner needs to internalize from Day 1.
Which would be about as expected from the owner.Not a pirate fan at all but that would be criminal.
My team was once owned by Peter Angelos and his two idiot sons. I know what sweating something like this out feels like.Which would be about as expected from the owner.![]()
Well, Angelos and Dan Snyder are out of the game so someone had to take over.Worst owner is sports.
So you’re telling us there are pictures of Bob nutting? That’s obscene.Bob Nutting? Sound like a Pornhub link!
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I was born in Pittsburgh. My family held Pirate season tickets for over 25 years. I've attended over 1,000 Pirate games in my life, but none in the past 10 years, thanks to Bob Nutting.
Pirate fans get what they deserve. They show up at the Park and continue enabling the worst owner in baseball. Nutting is 62. He could personally own the team for another 20 years. Given my age, that means I will never see another World Series in this town. So be it. At least Bob will get nutting from me.
True, but an empty ballpark sends a message. The Bucs may draw 2 million this season and that also sends a message. There are no good answers here if Nutting's only concern is his bottom line. I only know I will no longer be part of the con.Problem is the Pirates would still be profitable if they didn't sell a ticket or concession. He doesn't spend, and the TV revenue plus luxury tax sharing is enough to get them by.
Until the MLB installs a salary cap, a WS for any small market team is highly unlikely.I was born in Pittsburgh. My family held Pirate season tickets for over 25 years. I've attended over 1,000 Pirate games in my life, but none in the past 10 years, thanks to Bob Nutting.
Pirate fans get what they deserve. They show up at the Park and continue enabling the worst owner in baseball. Nutting is 62. He could personally own the team for another 20 years. Given my age, that means I will never see another World Series in this town. So be it. At least Bob will get nutting from me.
Better notThe lease on PNC Park is up in the not to distant future.
I think it is more likely that Nutting moves the team to another city than it is he sells. jmo
The most accurate thing in Moneyball is that mlb is an unfair game.Until the MLB installs a salary cap, a WS for any small market team is highly unlikely.
The problem is, MLB doesn't have a salary cap because the cheap owners, like Nutting, don't want to spend. A cap would require a floor, and the "small market" teams don't want to spend.Until the MLB installs a salary cap, a WS for any small market team is highly unlikely.
It is ... because rich people can get even richer by not trying and putting forward a completely lacking product, and the common man makes them rich and blames other rich people for why their rich person can't try to put forward a decent product.The most accurate thing in Moneyball is that mlb is an unfair game.
Baseball is looking to expand by two teams in the near future. If he were to move the team, then Pittsburgh would automatically jump to the forefront of getting one of the expansion teams. It might actually be the best thing that could ever happen to them.
I know there are a myriad of reasons a relegation/promotion schema would never work in American sports, but if there were ever a club that deserved relegation to AAA baseball, it's the Pirates.
Ok. Then why doesn’t the owners of the winning teams just say screw it. I’ll just keep my money and not spend? Other than because they have a soul and Nutting doesn’t?The problem is, MLB doesn't have a salary cap because the cheap owners, like Nutting, don't want to spend. A cap would require a floor, and the "small market" teams don't want to spend.
If you could make over a billion dollars, inflation-adjusted, in 28 years, on less than 1/10 of that amount as an initial investment, and you could be a failure for those 28 years and not spend ... you'd do it, too (not to mention all the tax benefits you reaped, which substantially add to that return). If you were a sh!tty human being like Nutting, that is.
He was neck and neck when they were in the game. Absolute slimeball.Well, Angelos and Dan Snyder are out of the game so someone had to take over.
Great movie.The most accurate thing in Moneyball is that mlb is an unfair game.
MLB is the only pro sport without a salary cap, right? Screw the small market owners. MLB can strong arm them into conforming if they wanted to. Problem is, MLB likes it just the way it is. They want NY,LA, Boston, Philly, etc to be the faces of the league. Larger markets are their priority. The rich get richer. Every other league makes it work just fine and the product is very good.The problem is, MLB doesn't have a salary cap because the cheap owners, like Nutting, don't want to spend. A cap would require a floor, and the "small market" teams don't want to spend.
If you could make over a billion dollars, inflation-adjusted, in 28 years, on less than 1/10 of that amount as an initial investment, and you could be a failure for those 28 years and not spend ... you'd do it, too (not to mention all the tax benefits you reaped, which substantially add to that return). If you were a sh!tty human being like Nutting, that is.
Screw the small market owners? The small market owners LOVE the current situation. They can make a billion or more without trying. MLB isn't a thing, at least as you're trying to portray it - it's just a collection of owners. The MLBPA is a VERY powerful organization ... much more powerful than its counterparts in the other major sports. They don't want a salary cap, and there's little the owners can do to change that when they can't guarantee a floor, that would let the players know that the cheap pieces of crap like Nutting will have to support higher player salaries by being forced to pony up.MLB is the only pro sport without a salary cap, right? Screw the small market owners. MLB can strong arm them into conforming if they wanted to. Problem is, MLB likes it just the way it is. They want NY,LA, Boston, Philly, etc to be the faces of the league. Larger markets are their priority. The rich get richer. Every other league makes it work just fine and the product is very good.