“QB Matthew Sluka to exit UNLV, says 'representations' not upheld” (NIL)

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Is there a worse governed sport in the world? What a joke.


In his statement Sluka said, "I committed to UNLV based on certain representations that were made to me, which were not upheld after I enrolled," Sluka posted on X. "Despite discussions, it became clear that these commitments would not be fulfilled in the future. I wish my teammates the best of luck this season and hope for the continued success of the program."
 

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“College” Football

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Crap. Didn't see your post. College Football players are hanging themselves with their own rope. I used to think congress wouldn't intervene but believe it's all but inevitable now; it's what happens when the inmates run the asylum. As much as I want the players to get everything they deserve, they're killing their own product.
 
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Well, it will be interesting to see how this CFB ****show progresses from here. Maybe a star player (or position group or entire team) refusing to play in a playoff game or even the NC game unless bonus checks are forthcoming.
 

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Well, it will be interesting to see how this CFB ****show progresses from here. Maybe a star player (or position group or entire team) refusing to play in a playoff game or even the NC game unless bonus checks are forthcoming.

They need enforceable contracts from schools and need to be employees; have to collectively bargain and yes, there needs to be a way to disperse talent (draft). There is no legitimate sport in the world where these shenanigans go unchecked. Coaching salaries need to be brought in-line with player salaries too - CFB coaches make as much as NFL coaches when their players make far, far less on the whole (unlike the NFL).
 
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I would like to know the details of this NIL. o_O issue. Did a football coach or someone else in the program make promises or was it a collective? Were promises made by someone in a position to deliver on them? Where did the money go or was there no money in the first place?
 
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I would like to know the details of this NIL. o_O issue. Did a football coach or someone else in the program make promises or was it a collective? Were promises made by someone in a position to deliver on them? Where did the money go or was there no money in the first place?

If it's a collective, if I'm the school I would sue the kid.
 
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We have a kid at our club - one of the best HS players in the state. He's a +4 right now. UF is promising him an Alfa Romeo SUV and six figures to go play there next year.

I figure he'll need the six figures to keep himself in weed and to keep the Alfa running.
 
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What does enforce his LOI mean?

If his financial deal is with the collective, his LOI is with the school, and that is the document the NCAA cares about (it's not as important as it once was but it's something). He's refusing to play due to a non-football or academic related reason; school should get some compensation for what they put into him (room/board/tuition/training/etc.). Now, if the school made promises that's a whole other thing.

Do you like this kind of 'players can do whatever they want' circus that is college football? It started with not wanting to play bowls because of fear of injury, now it's not playing because the collective isn't paying you money. If the kid has an enforceable contract with the collective, he should sue them.
 
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I would like to know the details of this NIL. o_O issue. Did a football coach or someone else in the program make promises or was it a collective? Were promises made by someone in a position to deliver on them? Where did the money go or was there no money in the first place?
Those are all good questions. Frankly I’m on the kids side here. If any of us (well maybe not you) were offered a new job, and promises were made that you in good faith relied on (either oral or written) most of us would be seeking different opportunities if our new employer failed to supply them. Just because their college athletes (who let’s be honest are virtually paid employees in modern football) why should not their agreements be honored?

The sport has become a sewer because of the “adults” who supposedly run it, not the players. The athletes are merely scrambling for what they perceive (rightly or wrongly) is their part of the pie before the whole thing comes crashing down.
 

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I don't like NIL and it only helps the already rich imo.

Look at Kent State's injury report for this weekend (and bet against them). PSU injured half their team it seems. You can argue that KSU put their players in danger even scheduling the game. Problem is there isn't an NFL player on their roster and the most they're getting is free pizza and beer probably.
 
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I don't like NIL and it only helps the already rich imo.

Look at Kent State's injury report for this weekend (and bet against them). PSU injured half their team it seems. You can argue that KSU put their players in danger even scheduling the game. Problem is there isn't an NFL player on their roster and the most they're getting is free pizza and beer probably.
And the privilege of being on a team, I guess, for one final time.
 

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Per source (this guy works for 247):


If this is correct then my comment above regarding him is incorrect. But I believe my original statement is factual regarding promises made but not kept as they relate to the general state of college football.
 

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And the privilege of being on a team, I guess, for one final time.
They should take their team experiences, the lumps, and free education/opportunities and be thrilled with all of it imo.

But pro NIL arguments revolve around the players and their well being. It's just some of the players/athletes that are great and truly marketable that get set for life (like the LSU Gymnast).

Why can't we just go back to stipends across the board. Increase them to where a student athlete can afford a good used Honda to get around. Then put on the brakes.
 
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We have a kid at our club - one of the best HS players in the state. He's a +4 right now. UF is promising him an Alfa Romeo SUV and six figures to go play there next year.

I figure he'll need the six figures to keep himself in weed and to keep the Alfa running.

OT but I've never understood the allure of the Alfa brand. They are the Jaguar of the Italian car brands: Beautiful outsides - crap for internals. I've known Alfa owners who act the martyr at the amount of time and money spent in repairs. Just my opinion.
 

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OT but I've never understood the allure of the Alfa brand. They are the Jaguar of the Italian car brands: Beautiful outsides - crap for internals. I've known Alfa owners who act the martyr at the amount of time and money spent in repairs. Just my opinion.

should he have asked for a Maserati instead? I heard they go 185.
 

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If his financial deal is with the collective, his LOI is with the school, and that is the document the NCAA cares about (it's not as important as it once was but it's something). He's refusing to play due to a non-football or academic related reason; school should get some compensation for what they put into him (room/board/tuition/training/etc.). Now, if the school made promises that's a whole other thing.

Do you like this kind of 'players can do whatever they want' circus that is college football? It started with not wanting to play bowls because of fear of injury, now it's not playing because the collective isn't paying you money. If the kid has an enforceable contract with the collective, he should sue them.
The LOI doesn't mean you have to play

I think he should get paid what he was promised
 

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Totally f*cked.

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This is exactly what Tagavailoa did at Maryland; decided he wanted to get paid or he wouldn't play in the bowl game.

"The Maryland starting quarterback wasn't shy about needing more NIL money, pushing the coaching staff to find more opportunities for him to make some. Those around the program believe that though Lia might have been making the ask, the source of the question was Galu. "His dad is a menace," one source around the program said. Before Maryland's Mayo Bowl game appearance against North Carolina State, Tagovailoa and two other players went to Locksley and said they'd need $50,000 each to play in the game, according to sources familiar with the situation. Tagovailoa then threw one touchdown pass in a 16–12 Maryland win over NC State that might be best remembered for Locksley getting a vat of Duke's mayo dumped on his head afterward."

"I got a homeboy discount because we ain't paying him one point five [million]," Locksley told Talty. "Now, down the road, would we? Who knows how this thing's gonna shake out."
 

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Per sources, he was. Now he wants more.
Not really. The 247 has some sort of financial partnership with the UNLV offensive coordinator. You can believe him if you want, I believe the player

 

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NCAA opened this Pandora's box and here we are.
  • 1956 – NCAA begins to allow student-athletes to receive athletic scholarships without regard for their academic ability or financial hardships.
  • 1975 – The NCAA updated its regulations limiting scholarships to tuition, books and board.
  • 1984 – In a 7-2 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court declared that the NCAA’s control of college football television broadcast rights violated the Sherman and Clayton Antitrust Acts. The ruling gave member schools more autonomy to negotiate broadcast rights agreements.
  • 2009 – Former UCLA basketball standout Ed O’Bannon was a plaintiff in a class action against the NCAA. O’Bannon and the other plaintiffs claimed an EA Sports video basketball game used their likenesses without consent or compensation.
  • 2014 – Northwestern University football players petitioned the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) to classify them as employees and permit them to unionize and directly benefit from commercial opportunities. The NLRB petition was unsuccessful, but the NCAA and member schools were put on notice about limiting the monetization of NIL by student-athletes.
  • 2015 – Federal district and appellate courts upheld the arguments of O’Bannon and the other plaintiffs, ruling that the NCAA’s amateurism rules were an unlawful restraint of trade. As a result, the NCAA increased the grant-in-aid limit to the full cost of attending school and allowed up to $5,000 per year in additional compensation.
  • 2019 – California became the first state to pass NIL legislation in the “Fair Pay to Play Act” which prohibited the NCAA or member schools from punishing student-athletes who earn NIL compensation. The new measure was set for enactment in 2023.
  • 2020 – Colorado, Florida, Nebraska, New Jersey and several other states pass laws permitting college student athletes to monetize their NIL. These new regulations are scheduled for enactment in 2022 and 2023.
  • 2020 – The National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA) passed regulations allowing NIL compensation for its student athletes. The NAIA regulates collegiate athletics at 252 member institutions who field 77,000 student athletes in 27 sports.
  • 2021 – In NCAA vs. Alston, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected an NCAA appeal of its antitrust lawsuit, finalizing the lower court decision that the NCAA is not exempt from antitrust regulations. This ruling opened the floodgates for additional academic-related compensation and led to the NCAA’s ultimate decision to quickly adopt an Interim NIL Policy that allowed, for the first time, student-athletes to benefit financially from their name, image, and likeness without fear of NCAA penalty.
  • 2022 – The NCAA Board of Directors issued NIL guidance to member schools which reinforced the prohibition of any recruiting incentives offered to student-athletes linked to potential NIL arrangements.
 

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Not really. The 247 has some sort of financial partnership with the UNLV offensive coordinator. You can believe him if you want, I believe the player


Were coaches able to make financial offers to players in January? Seems like a violation.
 

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Just 11 years ago:

Golfer penalized for washing car​

  • ESPN.com news services
May 30, 2013, 12:23 PM ET

A member of a women's golf team at a West Coast Conference school has been sanctioned by the NCAA for washing her car on campus, according to University of Portland basketball coach Eric Reveno.

Reveno tweeted about the violation Wednesday after he learned of it during conference meetings, culminating his message with the hashtag #stopinsanity.

"Just heard about two NCAA violations in WCC. 1) athlete using Univ. water to wash car, 2) coach text recruit 'who is this?'" Reveno wrote.

The WCC school in question self-reported the extra benefits violation to the NCAA, Yahoo Sports! reported. Yahoo also reported the NCAA asked the golfer to pay the school $20, which they said was the value of the water and hose.