10 year SEC sweet 16 bracket history

[windcrysmary]

1998..

Ky..nat champs

1999

Aub..lost
Fla...Lost
Ky...won, lost

2000

LSU..lost
TN ..Lost
Fla...won, won, lost nat champ game

2001

ole miss...lost
ky....lost

2002

Ky...lost

2003

ky...won, lost
AU..lost

2004

vandy..lost
bama..won, lost

2005

ky...won, lost

2006

LSU..won, won, lost
Fla...won nat champ

2007

Fla..won nat champ
TN..lost
vandy..lost

so..

Ky... (1) nat champ, (3) elite 8's, (2) sweet 16's

Fla..(2) nat champs, (1) title game. (1) sweet 16

LSU...(1) final 4, (1) sweet 16

AU...(2) sweet 16's

Vandy...(2) sweet 16's

Tenn...(2) sweet 16's

ole miss...(1) sweet 16

Stans REALLY needs to step up and join the SEC group here this year

 

[windcrysmary]

1998..

Ky..nat champs

1999

Aub..lost
Fla...Lost
Ky...won, lost

2000

LSU..lost
TN ..Lost
Fla...won, won, lost nat champ game

2001

ole miss...lost
ky....lost

2002

Ky...lost

2003

ky...won, lost
AU..lost

2004

vandy..lost
bama..won, lost

2005

ky...won, lost

2006

LSU..won, won, lost
Fla...won nat champ

2007

Fla..won nat champ
TN..lost
vandy..lost

so..

Ky... (1) nat champ, (3) elite 8's, (2) sweet 16's

Fla..(2) nat champs, (1) title game. (1) sweet 16

LSU...(1) final 4, (1) sweet 16

AU...(2) sweet 16's

Vandy...(2) sweet 16's

Tenn...(2) sweet 16's

ole miss...(1) sweet 16

Stans REALLY needs to step up and join the SEC group here this year

 

[windcrysmary]

1998..

Ky..nat champs

1999

Aub..lost
Fla...Lost
Ky...won, lost

2000

LSU..lost
TN ..Lost
Fla...won, won, lost nat champ game

2001

ole miss...lost
ky....lost

2002

Ky...lost

2003

ky...won, lost
AU..lost

2004

vandy..lost
bama..won, lost

2005

ky...won, lost

2006

LSU..won, won, lost
Fla...won nat champ

2007

Fla..won nat champ
TN..lost
vandy..lost

so..

Ky... (1) nat champ, (3) elite 8's, (2) sweet 16's

Fla..(2) nat champs, (1) title game. (1) sweet 16

LSU...(1) final 4, (1) sweet 16

AU...(2) sweet 16's

Vandy...(2) sweet 16's

Tenn...(2) sweet 16's

ole miss...(1) sweet 16

Stans REALLY needs to step up and join the SEC group here this year

 

[windcrysmary]

1998..

Ky..nat champs

1999

Aub..lost
Fla...Lost
Ky...won, lost

2000

LSU..lost
TN ..Lost
Fla...won, won, lost nat champ game

2001

ole miss...lost
ky....lost

2002

Ky...lost

2003

ky...won, lost
AU..lost

2004

vandy..lost
bama..won, lost

2005

ky...won, lost

2006

LSU..won, won, lost
Fla...won nat champ

2007

Fla..won nat champ
TN..lost
vandy..lost

so..

Ky... (1) nat champ, (3) elite 8's, (2) sweet 16's

Fla..(2) nat champs, (1) title game. (1) sweet 16

LSU...(1) final 4, (1) sweet 16

AU...(2) sweet 16's

Vandy...(2) sweet 16's

Tenn...(2) sweet 16's

ole miss...(1) sweet 16

Stans REALLY needs to step up and join the SEC group here this year

 

[windcrysmary]

1998..

Ky..nat champs

1999

Aub..lost
Fla...Lost
Ky...won, lost

2000

LSU..lost
TN ..Lost
Fla...won, won, lost nat champ game

2001

ole miss...lost
ky....lost

2002

Ky...lost

2003

ky...won, lost
AU..lost

2004

vandy..lost
bama..won, lost

2005

ky...won, lost

2006

LSU..won, won, lost
Fla...won nat champ

2007

Fla..won nat champ
TN..lost
vandy..lost

so..

Ky... (1) nat champ, (3) elite 8's, (2) sweet 16's

Fla..(2) nat champs, (1) title game. (1) sweet 16

LSU...(1) final 4, (1) sweet 16

AU...(2) sweet 16's

Vandy...(2) sweet 16's

Tenn...(2) sweet 16's

ole miss...(1) sweet 16

Stans REALLY needs to step up and join the SEC group here this year

 

[windcrysmary]

oops...

Bama: (1) elite 8

 

[fishwater99]

Agreed..

That his been his biggest knock by many people.
Problem is that we have less than two days to prepare for the next game. This is why people say he is an average floor coach. Stans does alot better with more time to prepare for the next game.

I really hope we get a good seed and draw this year, that will help alot.

Sweet 16
2007-2008 DAWGS

 

[patdog]

I'll say it again. It's not like Stans has been losing to a bunch of stiffs in the NCAA tournament.

Texas - #6 seed, playing in Dallas, best point guard in the nation.

Butler - Stans gets a lot of hell for losing to Butler as a #5 seed, but everybody forgets that Butler beat the **** out of Ricky Pitino's #4 seed Louisville team two days later. I guess Ricky Pitino's just an average floor coach too.

Xavier - Hottest team in the country at the time we played them. Had just beaten #1 and undefeated St. Joe the week before. Took out #3 seed Texas in the Sweet 16 before taking #1 Duke to the wire in the Elite 8.

Duke - #1 seed playing close to home. Enough said.

 

[8dog]

that was so bothersome is that we let them dictate the pace of the game.

L'ville at least got them in an up tempo game, but just got beat.

I think it goes without saying though that one game should not be held against a coach.

 

[wpnetdawg]

We haven't exactly had easy roads through the bracket. Even the two major upset losses we sustained were made to look much better.

To be honest about it, the only NCAA tourney game we didn't show up to play in was the Butler game. Even though Butler was better than advertised, we simply didn't play well. I haven't lost a moment's sleep about any of the other losses.

 

[Hanmudog]

I want to see us get to that Sweet 16, Elite 8, etc. but that does not diminish what Stansbury has been able to do over the last 10 years if we don't get there. THe NCAA tournament is as much about your draw as it is how good you are. Alabama's Elite 8 run was paved for them with upsets along the way in the opposing brackets. And as previously stated, it is always conveniently forgotten that Pitino got put out the same weekend by that same Butler team.
Donovan was a perennial underachiever in the NCAAT until about 3-4 years ago. Stansbury will get his sooner or later when the cards fall right for us.

 

[8dog]

Quote:_________________________________________________Donovan was a perennial underachiever in the NCAAT until about 3-4 years ago. _________________________________________________

He went to the Sweet 16 and the Championship game in 2 of his first 3 years at Fla.

He's had his early exits, but so has every coach.

 

[patdog]

Quote:_________________________________________________Alabama's Elite 8 run was paved for them with upsets along the way in the opposing brackets._________________________________________________

Bama did beat #1 seed Stanford in the 2nd round. However, that Stanford team was by far the worst #1 seed to ever play in the NCAA tournament. I told people before that tournament that Bama's toughest game to get to the Sweet 16 was their 1st round matchup with #8/9 Southern Illinois.

 

[Hanmudog]

True enough but he did have 5 straight early exits in between tourney runs. Again, unless you have a top 10 team and are far superior in talent then the NCAAs are all about the draw and what happens in the opposite bracket. The Butler loss still gnaws at me but the rest of them in hindsight don't upset me too much.

 

[Stormrider81]

Quote:_________________________________________________He's had his early exits, but so has every coach._________________________________________________

And that's the main point. Even some of the more successful coaches have struggled for a good period of time in the NCAA Tourney. Advancing in the Tourney is based largely on the draw, the makeup of your team, how hot or cold your team is, and coaching ability. If it was based solely on coaching ability you'd see the same schools in the Sweet 16 every year.

 

[rebelrouseri]

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[Stormrider81]

Quote:_________________________________________________This is why people say he is an average floor coach._________________________________________________

No, people say he's an average floor coach because that's always been the way he was described. When Stansbury was hired as HC he was referred to as a recruiter by our fanbase and it has stuck ever since. No matter how many games he wins he still gets no acknowledgement for his ability to coach in-game. I've said this before and I'll say it again, you don't win as many games at MSU as Stansbury has if you are an average coach.

Quote:_________________________________________________Stans does alot better with more time to prepare for the next game._________________________________________________

That's just plain incorrect. The man won the SEC Tourney in 2002 and made it to the finals in 2003. Each time he had to prepare for a game played the following day and won at least one of these. Stansbury has won games in a short layoff.

 

[Stormrider81]

Quote:_________________________________________________unless you have a top 10 team and are far superior in talent then the NCAAs are all about the draw and what happens in the opposite bracket_________________________________________________

I'd go as far as to say that having a top 10 team and superior talent doesn't mean you'll advance far in the Tourney. We've seen a ton of upsets recently.

 

[Hanmudog]

I can agree with that but to sum up the initial point of this thread:
Brady- Final Four (fired)
Gottfried - Elite 8 (soon to be fired)
Barnes - Sweet 16 (fired)

Rick Stansbury- no Sweet 16s yet but he is still going to the NCAA tourney for another shot at it and is still safely employed. Even if we make a deep run in the NCAAs that doesn't make Rick a suddenly different coach.

 

[fishwater99]

Quote:_________________________________________________That's just plain incorrect. The man won the SEC Tourney in 2002 and made it to the finals in 2003. Each time he had to prepare for a game played the following day and won at least one of these_________________________________________________

It is alot different when you have already scouted and played the team at least once before during the regular season. With the NCAA tourney it can be completly different.

 

[PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA]

lists of the greatest coaches of all time. Is that how they are defined?

 

[Stormrider81]

You also have an extra day in the NCAAs compared to the SEC Tourney. Also, you don't think coaches at least put together a package on the other two teams so that once the first round is out of the way they are ready to prepare for the second round?

The last time we played a second round team we played them properly. We put Frazier on Redick and JJ didn't do much at all. We let Feces take some of the punishment from Shelden Williams. We just needed someone to guard Ewing, he killed us. I thought Stans did a good job preparing for that game. Duke was just a better team, but we hung in the game and nearly managed to pull it off.

 

[windcrysmary]

from MSU in the last 10 years.. despite MSU having a tourney championship, a runner up game in the SEC tourney, an overall league play championship and 3 (now 4) west crowns

all the indepth anaysis excusing this is all well and good..

just sayin'...

 

[Hanmudog]

Yet you would be hard pressed to find many SEC teams outside of Florida and Kentucky that wouldn't trade places with MSU over the last several years.

 

[wpnetdawg]

in who they played in the NCAA baseball tourney.

 

[windcrysmary]

that's why it makes our sweet 16 goose egg that much harder to figure out... to have done what he has done in league play and not to have gotten to the sweet 16 while others have...

with what we've done, you'd think there would be at least 2 under Stans by now...

here's to hoping he does it this time...

 

[Coach34]

will be when we got knocked out of the NCAA Tourney on the first weekend this year-

Will it be bad draw aGAIN?
Will it be played the hottest team in the nation aGAIN?
Will it be a new excuse?

 

[patdog]

It'll probably be that as a #7 seed, we weren't expected to get out of the first weekend.

 

[Coach34]

thats all well and good, but since Jan, we have played at about the pace of a 4 seed. God forbid us actually pull an upset (and not one of those weakass 8-9 upsets where we we were favored)

 

[patdog]

We've been playing like a #4 seed, or we've been playing in a conference that isn't all that great? Probably a little of both. Depending on the draw we get, I wouldn't count out the chance of us pulling an upset to get to the Sweet 16. That'd really make your day, wouldn't it. Not only to get there, but to pull off a big upset to do it.

 

[8dog]

an early exit due strictly to seeding is our own fault for underachieving so badly in December.

 

[patdog]

We had to replace 3 starters and our bench was entirely made up of true freshmen. We made the pre-conference schedule with the assumption we'd have a couple of guys available that we didn't have. I think if we had those guys, we'd probably be looking at a #3 seed and no reason not to expect a Sweet 16 or better.

 

[Coach34]

Quote:_________________________________________________That'd really make your day, wouldn't it. Not only to get there, but to pull off a big upset to do it. _________________________________________________

That would be awesome. And also a banner day here on the Pack. It would probably set a hits record for one day with all the "in my face" bashing. Hopefully we make the 2nd round just to have that chance

 

[DowntownDawg]

Seeding is based primarily on overall record, not how we have played during any stretch. Therefore, an early exit will be more the fault of the team's crappy early play than tourney play, more than likely.

That was one of your dumber posts.

 

[MSUCostanza]

"We're playing like a 4 seed right now" = If we lose in the 2nd round, I can blame it on Stansbury because if we were truly playing like a 4 seed, we should make the Sweet 16, regardless.

 

[wpnetdawg]

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[SnakePlissken]

He says we've been playing at a pace of a #4 seed since January yet he picked us to lose more often than not since January?

 

[Coach34]

Quote:_________________________________________________He says we've been playing at a pace of a #4 seed since January _________________________________________________

We are something like 15-3 in our last 18 games. Thats not at least 4-seed caliber?

Quote:_________________________________________________yet he picked us to lose more often than not since January? _________________________________________________

my predictions have no influence with the NCAA selection committee

 

[Coach34]

Quote:_________________________________________________Are any of these "excuses" false?_________________________________________________

well, at some point we have to quit making excuses and get the <17'ing> job done. What excuses did George Mason make for making it to the FF?

 

[Coach34]

Quote:_________________________________________________Seeding is based primarily on overall record, _________________________________________________

well, no it isnt. You also have to factor in sos and rpi. Last 12 will also play a big part. The fact tht we have have played very well in conference and could win the SEC Tourney will do nothing but make our seeding climb. Let us beat Tenn for the Tourney title and i bet we arent a 7 seed