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GregJohnson12

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And Kennedy is alive in a Dallas old folks home too.

Look no big deal Drake left, free country and it's a coaching gig he would not have had at Iowa. It's how he did it. Maybe he was colored by the fact that ISU was after him continually for 2 years and thought what they were doing was ok.

But, you believe what you want to believe if it makes you feel better.
Even if it were true that Drake decided to leave and “bring 6–8 guys with him” (and I know for a fact that this is a lie), it wouldn’t be nearly as slimy as the things you’ve done to other universities to get wrestlers to Iowa—paying them and then having them underperform.
 
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Hawkfan1986

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Drake has had one foot out the door/is the grass greener eyeballs for a bit now. And it was always a money issue, not a Tom issue. And this is coming from a guy who isn't the biggest Tom fan.
For a few years now it’s been well known that Drake has been offered by other schools. Are you implying that Drake only came back to Iowa because Iowa kept matching his offers from other schools? I find that a bit hard to believe.

Drake was well liked in that locker room and a leader. You don’t just go from that to what is being alleged now without something other than Isu offering him a 4th assistant job, which I doubt pays him as much as he made while wrestling at Iowa. Something happened. There’s a piece of the puzzle missing.

I’ve been a few more steps removed from the program the past year plus so I may be missing something but this seems fishy.
 
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Gobblin

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And then there's this....don't shoot the messenger, just posting what's out there. I understand Tom's frustration, KD is essentially a pipeline to PSU. AWA is a no go for their kids. M2? no chance. Big Game? issues.

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Lmao!!! That engagement was completely started by Khaled blasting dogshit music and talking **** to our guys, not our staff. Our contingent kept thier cool and basically laughed him off, while Tom basically told him tif he wanted to come after anyone to come after him. Guy was a giant goofball, spook the whole time in Vegas.
 
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And then there's this....don't shoot the messenger, just posting what's out there. I understand Tom's frustration, KD is essentially a pipeline to PSU. AWA is a no go for their kids. M2? no chance. Big Game? issues.

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Sounds like a rational, level headed approach to a situation. Makes it hard to argue against Gobblin & ol' Bob in their recap of the Drake situation and whose at fault there.
 
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Gobblin

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For a few years now it’s been well known that Drake has been offered by other schools. Are you implying that Drake only came back to Iowa because Iowa kept matching his offers from other schools? I find that a bit hard to believe.

Drake was well liked in that locker room and a leader. You don’t just go from that to what is being alleged now without something other than Isu offering him a 4th assistant job, which I doubt pays him as much as he made while wrestling at Iowa. Something happened. There’s a piece of the puzzle missing.

I’ve been a few more steps removed from the program the past year plus so I may be missing something but this seems fishy.
Drake was offered a position in Iowa City with the HWC, but not as a competitor.
 

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Even if it were true that Drake decided to leave and “bring 6–8 guys with him” (and I know for a fact that this is a lie), it wouldn’t be nearly as slimy as the things you’ve done at other universities to get wrestlers to Iowa—paying them and then having them underperform.
I believe you are the troll on twitter with like 10 Greg Johnson usernames. You are an idiot.
 

Hawkfan1986

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Drake was offered a position in Iowa City with the HWC, but not as a competitor.
Would I be correct to assume that this is the piece missing and maybe this didn’t sit well with Drake?

Maybe the HWC wanted to avoid another public fallout like what happened with Dennis and TRam.
 
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Hawkfan1986

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No. Drake was through competing and TnT were fine with that and would’ve still liked to retain him.
Okay then I’m back to being confused. Next time I’m back in state I’ll ask my friends about this. I just find it very odd.

Thank you though, I appreciate the response.
 
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Drake doesn’t want to compete anymore so no. Plus we have all seen what that match looks like..
Very true. Don’t think I’d favor Drake. The avenue for making money in the sport of wrestling is narrow after college. It’s RTC’s or its coaching.
 

bnicolls

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Even if it were true that Drake decided to leave and “bring 6–8 guys with him” (and I know for a fact that this is a lie), it wouldn’t be nearly as slimy as the things you’ve done to other universities to get wrestlers to Iowa—paying them and then having them underperform.
Look Stud, whatever I did was within the boundary of the rules at the time. The rules have changed 3x in the last 3 years. Go check if you like

Let's also remember that Drake was under contract to me, yes me during the time of his "activities". There's a clause of behavior in the contract which these activities violated.

All that said, he's gone and it doesn't matter now and no big deal to me. Just don't come on here and shade everyone with BS you don't know dick about
 

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For a few years now it’s been well known that Drake has been offered by other schools. Are you implying that Drake only came back to Iowa because Iowa kept matching his offers from other schools? I find that a bit hard to believe.

Drake was well liked in that locker room and a leader. You don’t just go from that to what is being alleged now without something other than Isu offering him a 4th assistant job, which I doubt pays him as much as he made while wrestling at Iowa. Something happened. There’s a piece of the puzzle missing.

I’ve been a few more steps removed from the program the past year plus so I may be missing something but this seems fishy.
The something that happened is he graduated. There's simply not always room for everyone who does.
 

AS17380

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Lmao!!! That engagement was completely started by Khaled blasting dogshit music and talking **** to our guys, not our staff. Our contingent kept thier cool and basically laughed him off, while Tom basically told him tif he wanted to come after anyone to come after him. Guy was a giant goofball, spook the whole time in Vegas.
I get it if Tom is just defending his guys and I respect it. It just seems like there are burnt bridges(if there ever even were bridges to start with) with so many of the top clubs in the country. It's not a good look. Drake seems like he was Sebolt's guy more than Brands, which is fine, but Iowa potentially losing any Sebolt favor with Drake going to ISU will hurt. The top high school wrestlers across the country are more than likely at these high level clubs, so creating bad blood with them is only going to make recruiting those guys that much harder.
 

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Are you saying that JW is returning?

Or, that if he were to return, that means Ech is going elsewhere?

From other posts it feels like a foregone conclusion. I might be wrong.

Even if it were true that Drake decided to leave and “bring 6–8 guys with him” (and I know for a fact that this is a lie), it wouldn’t be nearly as slimy as the things you’ve done to other universities to get wrestlers to Iowa—paying them and then having them underperform.

I don't think they even have that many spots open on the roster.

Anyway, another odd comment about Bob. I doubt his intent was to pay wrestlers to underperform.


Okay then I’m back to being confused. Next time I’m back in state I’ll ask my friends about this. I just find it very odd.

Thank you though, I appreciate the response.

IDK what the confusion is but the likelihood of an HWC job paying as much (including benefits) as a D1 assistant's job at a school like ISU is pretty low.


Let's also remember that Drake was under contract to me, yes me during the time of his "activities". There's a clause of behavior in the contract which these activities violated.

Going to guess it's the kind of thing that isn't worth going after, just calling it water on the bridge, and moving on? Or?


I get it if Tom is just defending his guys and I respect it. It just seems like there are burnt bridges(if there ever even were bridges to start with) with so many of the top clubs in the country. It's not a good look. Drake seems like he was Sebolt's guy more than Brands, which is fine, but Iowa potentially losing any Sebolt favor with Drake going to ISU will hurt. The top high school wrestlers across the country are more than likely at these high level clubs, so creating bad blood with them is only going to make recruiting those guys that much harder.

He's already done it with so many. What's one more?
 

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Because he didn't beat anyone. His claim to fame is "well, he kept that close" while not showing much offense. Then he got hurt and missed time, which didn't help. And when he came back...he still showed he has a long way to go.

It's as simple as that.
He was a true freshman wrestling up a weight and keeping it close with some pretty good wrestlers before he was ready for the big lights. Hopefully he has improved a little over the last year and shows it. I hope to never see VV or JW in a hawkeye singlet again.
 

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Lmao!!! That engagement was completely started by Khaled blasting dogshit music and talking **** to our guys, not our staff. Our contingent kept thier cool and basically laughed him off, while Tom basically told him tif he wanted to come after anyone to come after him. Guy was a giant goofball, spook the whole time in Vegas.
Another example where any Iowa fan that pays @WillieTheBrain is just giving money to someone who’s trying to smear the program like Mineo, but at least Mineo has the balls to admit that he’s a hater
 

GregJohnson12

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Going to guess it's the kind of thing that isn't worth going after, just calling it water on the bridge, and moving on
I’m going to guess it’s not worth pursuing since it didnt ever happened. If I had to guess, he never actually told Peterson to come with him. You’ll see soon enough that Peterson won’t end up at ISU.
 
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Another example where any Iowa fan that pays @WillieTheBrain is just giving money to someone who’s trying to smear the program like Mineo, but at least Mineo has the balls to admit that he’s a hater
I wouldn't remotely put Willie and Mineo in the same category. I really don't think Willie is looking to smear Iowa. IDK what the facts were behind this, maybe he heard 2nd hand info and interpreted it wrong, maybe he's spot on IDK, but agenda?? I'm not so sure.
 

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I wouldn't remotely put Willie and Mineo in the same category. I really don't think Willie is looking to smear Iowa. IDK what the facts were behind this, maybe he heard 2nd hand info and interpreted it wrong, maybe he's spot on IDK, but agenda?? I'm not so sure.
I just told you exactly what happened though.
 

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Another example where any Iowa fan that pays @WillieTheBrain is just giving money to someone who’s trying to smear the program like Mineo, but at least Mineo has the balls to admit that he’s a hater
Mineo likes getting fans riled up, he thinks it's fun and he doesn't like Iowa so that makes it more fun. Willie can be called a lot of things, but he's not out here running smear campaigns. At a certain point if everyone is telling you that you smell like **** it's not because they don't like you, it's because you need to shower.
 

maxpain

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I just told you exactly what happened though.
Just speculating but Willie’s version may be viewed through the lense of someone who saw a snippet and your context may provide a bigger picture view.

Generally I don’t think Willie is trying to be negative against Iowa. He has before, so maybe I am wrong, just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
 
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Gobblin

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Just speculating but Willie’s version may be viewed through the lense of someone who saw a snippet and your context may provide a bigger picture view.

Generally I don’t think Willie is trying to be negative against Iowa. He has before, so maybe I am wrong, just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
That guy went out of his way to be an antagonistic prick to our guys all weekend…. Incredibly classless and immature.
 

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Just speculating but Willie’s version may be viewed through the lense of someone who saw a snippet and your context may provide a bigger picture view.

Generally I don’t think Willie is trying to be negative against Iowa. He has before, so maybe I am wrong, just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
Your response is exactly where I was coming from.
 
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He was a true freshman wrestling up a weight and keeping it close with some pretty good wrestlers before he was ready for the big lights. Hopefully he has improved a little over the last year and shows it. I hope to never see VV or JW in a hawkeye singlet again.

Still didn't beat anyone. Still lost to Kael V. Even his wins were meh. And then came back and lost to Naaktgeboren. And not the good one. If there even is a good one. Happy to go with him if he's the best guy in the room. Just not seeing any indications he is.
 

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That guy went out of his way to be an antagonistic prick to our guys all weekend…. Incredibly classless and immature.
Wow, that’s crazy! I’m surprised we didn’t hear about this sooner. I assume it was the country music, because that twangy business will set anyone off.

I can’t wait to hear more about this soap opera in the coming days and weeks from the wrestling community.
 

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Are we surprised that a kid takes a new job and try’s to tell some of his friends they should join him? I mean it’s not like he’s trying to just poach random wrestlers; he’s friends with a lot of these guys. If I were to switch jobs and there’s was openings at my new job I would ask some of my co workers I like to join me. I ain’t mad at Drake for whatever he did.
The difference would be if he was poaching Iowa wrestlers before or after notifying Iowa staff of the impending move, imo. (It sounds like he was poaching before notifying the Iowa coaches.)
 

Gobblin

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Wow, that’s crazy! I’m surprised we didn’t hear about this sooner. I assume it was the country music, because that twangy business will set anyone off.

I can’t wait to hear more about this soap opera in the coming days and weeks from the wrestling community.
Unimpressed The Big Lebowski GIF by Working Title
 

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I wouldn't remotely put Willie and Mineo in the same category. I really don't think Willie is looking to smear Iowa. IDK what the facts were behind this, maybe he heard 2nd hand info and interpreted it wrong, maybe he's spot on IDK, but agenda?? I'm not so sure.
I'll put a word in for Wille too. He's a good guy that LOVES wrestling. It's his life and made it his life's work. He does not smear Iowa at all. He has recommended Iowa to HS recruits and transfers. I enjoy his comments on Iowa as constructive, and his rankings are what he believes. Lastly, I have had the opportunity to talk to him a number of times and it's always pleasant and honest.
 

bnicolls

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Mineo likes getting fans riled up, he thinks it's fun and he doesn't like Iowa so that makes it more fun. Willie can be called a lot of things, but he's not out here running smear campaigns. At a certain point if everyone is telling you that you smell like **** it's not because they don't like you, it's because you need to shower.
Mineo is a first class prick, you are correct sir
 

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Would I be correct to assume that this is the piece missing and maybe this didn’t sit well with Drake?

Maybe the HWC wanted to avoid another public fallout like what happened with Dennis and TRam.
I don't think he is beating Desanto and he must know that. I got a lot of respect for Ayala but not against Desanto.
 

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Even if it were true that Drake decided to leave and “bring 6–8 guys with him” (and I know for a fact that this is a lie), it wouldn’t be nearly as slimy as the things you’ve done to other universities to get wrestlers to Iowa—paying them and then having them underperform.
Don't you b!tches have a board to visit to stroke each other off? Go away!
 
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dtripp26

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Drake was offered a position in Iowa City with the HWC, but not as a competitor.
Makes sense, he has zero future at 57 or 61.
May as well start coaching...and at least he'll be coaching at ISU. We don't need another coach who can't teach scrambling.
 
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GregJohnson12

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Makes sense, he has zero future at 57 or 61.
May as well start coaching...and at least he'll be coaching at ISU. We don't need another coach who can't teach scrambling.
Sure glad Jacob Warner will be able to! Also, after the open I would say Drake has pretty similar shot at those weights as the current HWC guys.