18 Minute video interview. Worth a listen:
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The Administration doesn't want to deal with the notion of honoring or recognizing the contributions of Joe Paterno at any time; too controversial.
It is time.
It is time to stand up like adults and not cowards.
It is time to honor a man who did no wrong.
It is time to do right by his family, while his wife is alive and able to understand her husband is no longer being ostracized.
It is time to heal the breach between alumni and their school, kept open by administration and trustees who lack the connection the rest of us have.
It is time to stand up like adults and not cowards.
It is time to honor a man who did no wrong.
It is time to do right by his family, while his wife is alive and able to understand her husband is no longer being ostracized.
It is time to heal the breach between alumni and their school, kept open by administration and trustees who lack the connection the rest of us have.
This Quote by James Franklin (per Lubrano):
(When asked about naming the field after/honoring Joe & Sue Paterno) - "I don't care."
You're wrong on this one. The quote is from Kraft second hand from Lubrano, not directly from Franklin. When asked by Lubrano what Franklin thought of it, Kraft said, "James doesn't care about this." Not remotely the same thing. It's Lubrano said Kraft said Franklin said. Let's be fair. It's at 6:54 of the video.This Quote by James Franklin (per Lubrano):
(When asked about naming the field after/honoring Joe & Sue Paterno) - "I don't care."
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Respectfully - Lubrano asked Kraft what he thought about the proposal and Kraft said, 'It's not up to me,' asked again, he said 'I don't want to step on my bosses toes,' pressed further Kraft says, 'Of course I want to do this.' And then Lubrano said he asked Kraft if Coach Franklin had any objections about it and Kraft says, 'James doesn't care about any of this,' to which Lubrano editorializes, "Those were his words to me. I take those at face value. I would hope no one in the Lasch Building would feel threatened by the field name 'Paterno."
So, yes, it is Kraft answering on behalf of Franklin who apparently doesn't care. That doesn't substantively change what I wrote though I guess 'doesn't care' is open to interpretation...I mean, it's not an endorsement (right?).
You wrote that Franklin said, "I don't care." How do you know that? We don't have the audio of what Franklin said. You twisted a quote of a quote of a quote.
Twisted? That's a reach. Put it this way - according to Lubrano according to Kraft, James doesn't care about any of this. Better? Do you think Lubrano or Kraft is lying? Maybe someone can ask James what he thinks at the next presser (noting I don't care that he doesn't care, and he has zero obligation to, but I do find it interesting/telling, but not shocking, if true).
If someone says he doesn't care about something, all it says to me is that it's not on his radar as a priority. I would certainly hope that James has only current football related issues on his list of priorities, and not this kind of stuff.
It’s not an endorsement but what would you have him say? Any decision one way or another would be made by the President and the BOT and one thing you learn fast in an university is that you respect the chain of command.
I couldn’t listen to the audio but I’m puzzled as to why Lubrano would, one, ask the AD for their opinion and for CJF’s opinion, and, two, share a private conversation in such a public way. I can only assume that Lubrano has already polled a substantial subset of the BOT on this.
I take comfort knowing that James is focused on giving me what I deserve.
Lubrano should worry about naming the field after Joe if that's what he wants. He shouldn't care in the least what our current coach thinks or bring it up in an interview. That's unless he's looking for drama, of course. If that's the case he's working against our current program and that isn't cool at all.
I’m not watching the interview. Is the “I don’t care” line being thought of as a positive or a negative. As in, “I don’t care, name it after him if you want to” or “I don’t care about Joe”?This Quote by James Franklin (per Lubrano):
(When asked about naming the field after/honoring Joe & Sue Paterno) - "I don't care."
It's not a direct quote from Franklin; it's according to Lubrano who asked Pat Kraft if Coach Franklin had any objections - Kraft's response was 'Franklin doesn't care about any of this,' which I assume means exactly that - it's not up to him either way and he doesn't care if they do or do not name the field after Paterno.
"Coach Paterno is an institution and legend and I support whatever means of honoring his good name the University and his family deem appropriate."
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If CJF is asked about this issue in a formal setting I imagine that his answer would be somewhat like this. Honestly, I have my doubts that Kraft was passing on to Lubrano anything CJF said verbatim. Why would Kraft ask Franklin about this? I’m uncomfortable with these kind of he said she said scenarios. I’m sure there’s something I’m missing but I find it extremely odd that Lubrano is sharing private conversations in this way. What does he hope to accomplish?
If you listen to the video it is very clear Lubrano wants the university to honor Joe while Sue is still alive. Maybe he feels this is a way to help expedite that? Dunno.
It's not a mystery as to why anymore. The only question is who still buys what Jay and Lubrano are selling.....apparently some still are.
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Good for James, he shouldn't care one way or the other.This Quote by James Franklin (per Lubrano):
(When asked about naming the field after/honoring Joe & Sue Paterno) - "I don't care."
I liked Joe and what he did for the University but I don't care either anymore.
The fact that Lubrano introduced the resolution at the exact same time THON was kicking off was in the very least tasteless IMO. The dog and pony show didn't need to happen at all, nevermind on THON weekend.
Franklin has been at PSU for a while. I’d like to think that he would have come to appreciate Joe’s contributions by now. Frankly, Franklin’s position at PSU, including the pay, wouldn’t be what it is if it weren’t for Joe.
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I interpret what CJF apparently said to mean that he acknowledges that it isn't his decision to make and he has a program to run. If it happens I'm sure that CJF will celebrate the event like the rest of us. After all, CJF is of the age in which he grew up watching JoePa's star shine it's brightest, as am I.
Until PSU's administration deals with the matter head-on, it will continue happening. Either tell Lubrano, et al that it ain't never happening or give them a timeframe. They ain't going away.
Would naming the field after joe trigger a week of national pushback, 6 months of national push back or annual pushback several times a year when state plays a national game including every white out and every espn game day? Everyone here cool with a Sandusky barb every big game handled by the pre game boys? Worth it? I’m not sure.
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Sadly it would be every game. Which is why I don’t think it’ll ever happen. So - how does PSU deal with this? I’d honestly pay Donald Trump wherever he wanted to hold a rally at Beaver Stadium and talk for an hour about how great it would be to name the field after Paterno. Then Russia would take care of the rest….and you’d have at least 50% buy in from the rest of America.
I asked ChatGPT to write a speech about this for Trump:
Ladies and gentlemen, we've got a tremendous issue on our hands, a tremendous injustice that needs to be rectified immediately. I'm talking about Penn State University and their failure to honor one of the greatest coaches in college football history, Joe Paterno. Now, Joe Paterno, he was a winner, folks. He built Penn State football into a powerhouse, a real powerhouse. And what do they do? They take his name off the field at Beaver Stadium. Can you believe it? It's disgraceful!
Let me tell you something, folks. Joe Paterno, he did more for Penn State than anyone else. He dedicated his life to that university, to those players, to those fans. And now they want to erase his legacy? Not on my watch! We're not going to stand for it!
I'm calling on Penn State University to do the right thing, to honor Joe Paterno the way he deserves to be honored. That field at Beaver Stadium, it should bear his name. It should be the Joe Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium. And it's not just about Joe Paterno, folks. It's about respect. It's about honoring our heroes, our legends.
So, to the folks at Penn State, I say this: You've got a chance to make this right. You've got a chance to show the world that you still have some respect, some gratitude for everything Joe Paterno did for your university. Do the right thing. Name that field after Joe Paterno. And do it now! Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America!
So you think the "pre game boys" are gonna shlt on their own product?
Do SuePa and the family really care about this? Is this some sort of nod to the older alumni (who may also have some cash to leave to PSU or NIL or both) that they can stop feeling angry/guilty. Not that we ever should have been made to feel guilty, but that was a clear part of the message that I received back then from the BoT and the Joe hater crowd (mostly secret sPitt fans).
(sarcasm) How dare anyone question the accepted, ridiculous narrative? Of course the first person you run to when you need to report a crime is the local football coach. Of course the local football coach is always an expert on the law and knows exactly what to do. Silly JoeBots!
Anyway, the Paterno name is on the library and, frankly, I think that meant a lot more to Joe and Sue than the name of the football field. I could be wrong.
(sarcasm) How dare anyone question the accepted, ridiculous narrative? Of course the first person you run to when you need to report a crime is the local football coach. Of course the local football coach is always an expert on the law and knows exactly what to do. Silly JoeBots!
Anyway, the Paterno name is on the library and, frankly, I think that meant a lot more to Joe and Sue than the name of the football field. I could be wrong.
You overestimate the attention span of your average Neanderthal. Besides, they have more pressing issues to address.
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