2022 NCAA Seeds Discussion
- Thread starter Tom McAndrew
- Start date
285:
#1 is Gable Steveson
#8 is Matt Stencel (CMU)
#5 is Wyatt Hendrickson (Air Force)
#4 is Kerk
#1 is Gable Steveson
#8 is Matt Stencel (CMU)
#5 is Wyatt Hendrickson (Air Force)
#4 is Kerk
bottom half of 285:
#3 is Tony Cassioppi (Iowa)
#6 is Jordan Wood (Lehigh)
#7 is Mason Parris (Mich)
#2 is Cohlton Schultz (ASU)
#3 is Tony Cassioppi (Iowa)
#6 is Jordan Wood (Lehigh)
#7 is Mason Parris (Mich)
#2 is Cohlton Schultz (ASU)
Here is my story on the seeds. Have to help the wife finish making dinner but I'll pop back in a little later for any questions, discussions, or errors you may have caught!
www.on3.com
What seeds did Penn State wrestlers draw for the NCAA Championships? Takeaways, and more
Penn State wrestling is sending nine Nittany Lions to the NCAA Wrestling Championships in Detroit, Mich. Here are the team's seeds.
keying in, trying to read the screen, and eating dinner at the same time is a recipe for mistakes.
we'll have to wait to see the final Coaches Poll and the RPI. I believe they are the biggest factors in seeding (I should check before making such a comment).
We got freaking screwed at 3 weights especially Berge. They don’t want us to be National Champions again. Haters gonna hate. This is simply unreal about Berge especially.
Last edited:
I'm sure there's a more recent and/or accurate piece on the seeding than this, but it's a start.
Flow on seeding
There are a lot of people on this board who don't expect any points from 125 and not much from 157. If they both lose in the 2nd round, doesn't that provide the opportunity for them to score some points in wrestlebacks? I don't think anyone here expects us to win titles at either of those weights so maybe this isn't that bad for us.
At 184 Brooks lost the conference title match and is the #2 seed. I don't see how that is us getting jobbed.
I agree who is making these brackets iowa? Michigan? 157 and 125 we face number 1 in second round. Heck if they were ranked at any other pairing rather than 16 or 17 they would face a lesser 2nd round opponent.
Berge at 16 and young at 9 when berge beat him twice is ridiculous.
He can't.
The link in Chris' post above is mostly still true -- what changed is that 1 Quality Win guarantees 5 pts in that category (instead of a 20-0 pt deficit).
As the article noted, switches can only happen within 3 seeds. So Cael cannot push for 16 Berge ahead of 9 Young.
Berge got this seed because he had so few matches at 157. It was always a risk, and one that they accepted when he dropped.
What about brutal for round 1? Noto is 29-1, yeah he didn't wrestle the same competition but he beat a couple of ranked guys and did well in tourneys.
Drew is going to have to come out of the gates.
Just wanted to share something re: NCAA v B1G tournament. I was speaking with a 3-time AA from Ohio State tonight, and he told me the B1G tournament was significantly more difficult for him than the NCAA. Said the B1G you know you're getting someone who is going to be tough and difficult from the get go, whereas at the NCAAs it's "easier" because you get technical or slick/smooth guys from out west who aren't nearly as physical.
Maybe that's just common knowledge, and I didn't want to start a thread for it, so thought I'd put it here.
Maybe that's just common knowledge, and I didn't want to start a thread for it, so thought I'd put it here.
As the ol' coach used to say: Stay in the damn winners' bracket.
The best way to advance in consis is to make the semis -- then you're guaranteed 6th. Plus consis mean twice as many matches, more mentally and physically taxing.
Neither guy got screwed, but the 20 seed would've been preferable for both.
I personally don't see iowa having anyone in the finals. I think it will be a Michigan, PSU race
Sounds like Ohio State gets favorable draws at nationals ... kinda like how they never get called for holding.
I already said above that I made a mistake at 184 relying on Mineo’s tweet from earlier. If you look at Berge‘s path assuming he loses to Carr, his most likely opponent in the blood round to AA is Austin O’Connor, the 2020 Nat’l Champ at 157. That’s rough and the 16 seems so hard to justify when Young is 9 and Berge beat him twice 2 weeks earlier. Finally, not to be a complete Debbie downer, but Hildebrandt I think is in trouble with likely matchups, will get Schroeder or McKee in his 2nd consi match, if it’s McKee, that has been Hildebrandt’s kryptonite. I think Penn State did not catch alot of breaks this year. I still think we will win, but do believe our point scoring is going to be VERY top heavy with our big 6.
I don't think things are as black and white in seeding as Willie does, but DeSanto/Iowa could be ticked about his seed.
RBY and Fix were pretty obvious as #1 and #2. Did any of you expect DeSanto to be a #5?
Michael McGee (ASU) (21-2) got the #3 seed and Korbin Myers (VT) (18-1) got the #4 seed.
RBY and Fix were pretty obvious as #1 and #2. Did any of you expect DeSanto to be a #5?
Michael McGee (ASU) (21-2) got the #3 seed and Korbin Myers (VT) (18-1) got the #4 seed.
I think Keckeisen has very good chance of knocking off Amine.
Kerk being a #4 seed puts him in the top bracket with #1 Steveson. Just to get to the semi against Steveson, he'll probably have to get past #5 seed Wyatt Hendrickson (Air Force), who is 24-0 on the season, with 16 pins.
If you look at their common opponents this season, they've faced 3 guys that the other also wrestled, and are both 3-0 in those matches. (Kerk wrestled 1 of those common opponents 2X, so he's actually 4-0.)
If you do a comparison on WrestleStat, their algorithm predicts a DEC by Hendrickson over Kerk, 8-5.
If you look at their common opponents this season, they've faced 3 guys that the other also wrestled, and are both 3-0 in those matches. (Kerk wrestled 1 of those common opponents 2X, so he's actually 4-0.)
If you do a comparison on WrestleStat, their algorithm predicts a DEC by Hendrickson over Kerk, 8-5.
Seems like Drew got punished for having a bad BIG tourney, and then they didn't reward Berge for having a good tourney
Keckeisen looked very good in his conference Final. He has an unbelievable pace and gas tank for the weight.
Hendrickson is a mid-sized heavy who wins with a lot of quickness. Good shots, primary skills are catching the big guys flat-footed and an uncanny knack for getting snapped directly into a shot (HWTs don't always create angles well). Good scrambler.
Kerk is better at all of these things.
Most of his pins and NF are with cradles and converting shots into bottom-leg turks. Kerk should be able to stay out of those predicaments.
If I were seeding manually, DeSanto would've been the 3.
But his draw isn't bad. DeSanto probably doesn't care who he faces in the quarters, but if I'm an Iowa fan, I'm very relieved it isn't Byrd. Their last 3 mtgs were 5-4, 5-4, and 4-3.
Hopefully our Coaches are preparing him well for this kid. Good post El. Hopefully our coaches know. I’m still pissed about Berge. You gotta use common sense. Oh well I’m going to tune into the Big ten network to help PSU basketball ratings.
Iowa fans understand ADS got a favorable draw despite the seeding number. They think he can beat RBY but not Fix.
Get unlimited access today.