2023-24 Sixers Thread

[Tom McAndrew]

Please use this thread to discussion the the preseason, in-season, and postseason of the Philadelphia 76ers.

The NBA is always slow to release schedules, but they finally did so today, so it's time to start the next season thread.

There were a lot of good posts in the 2022-23 Sixers Thread. You can access any of those posts at:

2022-23 Sixers Thread - On3

Please use this thread to discussion the the preseason, in-season, and postseason of the Philadelphia 76ers. I was trying to hold off on starting a season thread until the schedule was released, but I'm tired of waiting. There were a lot of good posts in the 2021-23 Sixers Thread. You can...

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[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Hardslider33]

Our dream is starting to wither Tom
Jo now scrubbed the 76ers stuff from his twitter account

 

[LionJim]

Our dream is starting to wither Tom
Jo now scrubbed the 76ers stuff from his twitter account

High school.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[MrTailgate]

I used to love those fanboy posts from The Judge every summer proclaiming greatness for the Sixers. Remember those videos of Ben draining 3’s in the gym and The Judge saying that Ben was going to emerge as an offensive threat. Then we had The Judge posting on how Markelle had fixed his stroke and he was set up to be the final piece to a dominant Big 3. I remember him crucifying me when I said that the Sixers seem to always find a way to mess it up and they were one Embiid injury away from going down the drain. I miss those days.

 

[LionJim]

I used to love those fanboy posts from The Judge every summer proclaiming greatness for the Sixers. Remember those videos of Ben draining 3’s in the gym and The Judge saying that Ben was going to emerge as an offensive threat. Then we had The Judge posting on how Markelle had fixed his stroke and he was set up to be the final piece to a dominant Big 3. I remember him crucifying me when I said that the Sixers seem to always find a way to mess it up and they were one Embiid injury away from going down the drain. I miss those days.

The thing is, Simmons was going to be better than Scottie Pippen and then he got bit by a zombie. I absolutely did not see that coming. And Fultz, he turned into Steve Sax, who’d have thunk it?

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Not exactly what I'd like to have named after me, but I guess the money is pretty good for AI.

 

[jmorovich]

The start of the ‘23-‘24 Sixers thread!!

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Not sure I can handle this right now honestly

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[LionJim]

Lol. Well, maybe Oubre will surprise.

 

[Eric_M]

Lillard traded to the Milwaukee Bucks. Well that bites.........

 

[LionJim]

Lillard traded to the Milwaukee Bucks. Well that bites.........

Jrue Holiday to Portland. I guess on paper the Bucks would be a better team but I would think that Holiday’s game at 33yo would be more sustainable than Lillard’s at 33.

 

[Eric_M]

Jrue Holiday to Portland. I guess on paper the Bucks would be a better team but I would think that Holiday’s game at 33yo would be more sustainable than Lillard’s at 33.

I think Jrue is at the end of his contract. Seems like that would be the better means to manage a 33yo if you can sign him to a shorter deal.

Well Miami was looking for a guard. Hopefully they will take Harden as a consolation.

 

[WestSideLion]

Well Miami was looking for a guard. Hopefully they will take Harden as a consolation.

Morey’s leverage just increased now that Lillard is off the market. Will he find a decent return?

 

[LionJim]

I think Jrue is at the end of his contract. Seems like that would be the better means to manage a 33yo if you can sign him to a shorter deal.

Well Miami was looking for a guard. Hopefully they will take Harden as a consolation.

I forgot the first rule of discussing sports teams trades: “What was his contract like?”

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[WestSideLion]

Without moving Maxey, the Sixers don’t have a lot to trade right now. Harden is just meh at this point. He’s expensive and no longer appears able to carry a team. Who’s falling over themself to take that on?

 

[Nitwit]

Everyone else seems to be making moves to improve while the Sixers are getting worse. I can hardly wait for Embid’s first injury of the season, Hardin’s holdout, and their no three point defense. What a fun year this is going to be…,

 

[LionJim]

Everyone else seems to be making moves to improve while the Sixers are getting worse. I can hardly wait for Embid’s first injury of the season, Hardin’s holdout, and their no three point defense. What a fun year this is going to be…,

I checked: the Sixers were sixth in the NBA in 3-point fgp defense, .348.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[LionJim]

I checked: the Sixers were sixth in the NBA in 3-point fgp defense, .348.

I checked: the Sixers were sixth in the NBA in 3-point fgp defense, .348.

Sixers lead the league in 3-point fgp, .387.

 

[LionJim]

Not exactly an earth-shattering take but still a good read:

James Harden Begins Going "Ben Simmons Mode" | Defector

Days after their two primary rivals for Eastern Conference supremacy pulled off mondo trades for all-NBA point guards, the Philadelphia 76ers formally entered the labor-withholding stage of their summer-long standoff with their own all-NBA point guard. Extremely disgruntled Sixers quasi-employee...

defector.com

 

[TheTwistedFrog]

It’s a tough pill to swallow, but the 76ers would be better off shopping Joel and trying to cobble together a massive trade package.

 

[Nitwit]

It’s a tough pill to swallow, but the 76ers would be better off shopping Joel and trying to cobble together a massive trade package.

That’s tough. It would have to be a star quality player not just a package in return I think. I wouldn’t be opposed to it depending on the deal of course. Hopefully for a younger star. Embid is just too injury prone and hard to couple another complimentary player with without stalling down the offense and committing turnovers. But he was MVP!!!!!

 

[TheTwistedFrog]

That’s tough. It would have to be a star quality player not just a package in return I think. I wouldn’t be opposed to it depending on the deal of course. Hopefully for a younger star. Embid is just too injury prone and hard to couple another complimentary player with without stalling down the offense and committing turnovers. But he was MVP!!!!!

Here’s the dark reality, Philly is the third (at best) team in the East. Well behind Milwaukee and Boston. Now, I don’t really buy the idea that Porzingis plays the majority of the season. I also don’t know how well Dame and Giannis will pair together. They could be amazing or this could blow up in Milwaukee’s face. We just don’t know. We do know it’ll probably take until at least January to have a good idea of what it looks like.

Philly needs Harden to wake up happy and 5 years younger tomorrow and hope that the supporting cast absolutely balls out this year to stay in the top half of the East. And that’s not even talking about the monster that is Denver and the ageless wonders residing in the Bay Area.

Joel won’t be traded during the season. But if it’s another second round exit, I don’t see how you don’t test the waters next offseason assuming he doesn’t demand a trade.

 

[LionJim]

Here’s the dark reality, Philly is the third (at best) team in the East. Well behind Milwaukee and Boston. Now, I don’t really buy the idea that Porzingis plays the majority of the season. I also don’t know how well Dame and Giannis will pair together. They could be amazing or this could blow up in Milwaukee’s face. We just don’t know. We do know it’ll probably take until at least January to have a good idea of what it looks like.

Philly needs Harden to wake up happy and 5 years younger tomorrow and hope that the supporting cast absolutely balls out this year to stay in the top half of the East. And that’s not even talking about the monster that is Denver and the ageless wonders residing in the Bay Area.

Joel won’t be traded during the season. But if it’s another second round exit, I don’t see how you don’t test the waters next offseason assuming he doesn’t demand a trade.

Celtics got Holiday to replace Smart. I think it will be no worse than a wash for Boston. I was surprised to see that Holiday has a much better 3pt fgp than Smart. (Holiday shot .392, .411, .384 from 3 the last three years.)

 

[WestSideLion]

Here’s the dark reality, Philly is the third (at best) team in the East. Well behind Milwaukee and Boston. Now, I don’t really buy the idea that Porzingis plays the majority of the season. I also don’t know how well Dame and Giannis will pair together. They could be amazing or this could blow up in Milwaukee’s face. We just don’t know. We do know it’ll probably take until at least January to have a good idea of what it looks like.

Philly needs Harden to wake up happy and 5 years younger tomorrow and hope that the supporting cast absolutely balls out this year to stay in the top half of the East. And that’s not even talking about the monster that is Denver and the ageless wonders residing in the Bay Area.

Joel won’t be traded during the season. But if it’s another second round exit, I don’t see how you don’t test the waters next offseason assuming he doesn’t demand a trade.

The Harden and Harris contracts expire after the season. Who ever they get in a trade needs to come off the books unless it’s an absolute star (long shot, IMO).

If they trade Embiid for a young star, then that might work as a salary trade, but I also think that’s unlikely. A team acquiring Embiid is in win-now mode. You don’t get better by trading a young star.

 

[TheTwistedFrog]

Celtics got Holiday to replace Smart. I think it will be no worse than a wash for Boston. I was surprised to see that Holiday has a much better 3pt fgp than Smart. (Holiday shot .392, .411, .384 from 3 the last three years.)

I wasn’t impressed much by Boston’s offseason. Porzingis is a huge gamble. Smart was the heart of that team. With that being said, if Holliday can be 90% of what Smart was and Porzingis stays healthy for 70 games, Boston will be right there come playoff time.

Now if Porzingis does his usual walking wounded routine and Holliday can’t corral the kids the way Smart did, Boston could fall down a notch.

It was still a gamble worth taking because they weren’t winning the title the way the roster was constructed.