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Biggest name so far
Tom Herman - fired from FAU today

Ball St - Mike Neu out
East Carolina - Mike Houston out
Kennesaw St - Brian Bohannon out
Rice - Mike Bloomgren out
Southern Miss - Will Hall out
Temple - Stan Drayton out
UMass - Don Brown out
Utah St - Blake Anderson out
Wisconsin - OC Phil Longo
Coastal Carolina OC Travis Trickett
 
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I had not expected Mike Houston to come up short at East Carolina.
 
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SC95 said:
Houston should have stayed at JMU. Houston left JMU before the 2019 season, and JMU moved from FCS to FBS before the 2022 season.
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I missed that stop in his career, and it was a good one. I only remembered him from The Citadel, where he dinged us.
 
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Skip Holtz name being thrown around for the ECU job.
He not that old (60), but ECU might be better served looking for a younger candidate, IMHO.
 
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I hope the privilege of sitting down with Mike Houston on 2 occasions and I was very impressed by him.Certainly did great things at his 3 stops before ECU.Don’t know what happened there.
 
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Irvin Snibbley said:
I hope the privilege of sitting down with Mike Houston on 2 occasions and I was very impressed by him.Certainly did great things at his 3 stops before ECU.Don’t know what happened there.
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I think it comes back to "fit". A coach doesn't go to bed a good coach and wake up a bad coach. Most of the time, he makes a wrong career move. A couple of guys have done great at Houston and would have continued to do great. But their next upward moves were to the wrong places. "A man's GOT to know his limitations" - "Dirty Harry" Callahan.
 
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Harvard Gamecock said:
Skip Holtz name being thrown around for the ECU job.
He not that old (60), but ECU might be better served looking for a younger candidate, IMHO.
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You know, Harvard, I was thinking about that. The problem at a place like ECU is that the up and comer young coach, if he is good, won’t be there long. Get a guy like Skip, and you might have stability for 5-10 years.

I think about the Duke coach several years ago (can’t remember his name but he was the QB coach for Peyton Manning at Tennessee I think). He was content to stay at Duke, and when they had better than average years, he wasn’t budging.
 
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DrMickeySC said:
You know, Harvard, I was thinking about that. The problem at a place like ECU is that the up and comer young coach, if he is good, won’t be there long. Get a guy like Skip, and you might have stability for 5-10 years.

I think about the Duke coach several years ago (can’t remember his name but he was the QB coach for Peyton Manning at Tennessee I think). He was content to stay at Duke, and when they had better than average years, he wasn’t budging.
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You make a valid point.
ECU will just have to make a decision who will be the best candidate that is available
 
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DrMickeySC said:
You know, Harvard, I was thinking about that. The problem at a place like ECU is that the up and comer young coach, if he is good, won’t be there long. Get a guy like Skip, and you might have stability for 5-10 years.

I think about the Duke coach several years ago (can’t remember his name but he was the QB coach for Peyton Manning at Tennessee I think). He was content to stay at Duke, and when they had better than average years, he wasn’t budging.
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Cutcliffe was at Duke. Great guy.
 
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After just 2 days ago reassuring players and recruits UNC Fires Mack Brown
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Wow...fired. not surprised to see him leaving, but I thought they'd give a more graceful exit to their winningest coach who came out of retirement to try resurrecting the program.

It's shocking how few coaches, even the great ones, end on a high note.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Wow...fired. not surprised to see him leaving, but I thought they'd give a more graceful exit to their winningest coach who came out of retirement to try resurrecting the program.

It's shocking how few coaches, even the great ones, end on a high note.
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The key is to know when to quit. Head coaches, especially ones with good careers, generally have pretty big egos and don't know when to step aside. Both Holtz and Spurrier let their egos push them into taking the South Carolina job and both ended up tarnishing their reputations in the end. Mack Brown never should have gone back to UNC. He was 68 when he took that job and had been out of coaching for 6 years. There was no way he had the energy or the ability to connect with recruits and players at that age.
 
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PrestonyteParrot said:
Was he given the opportunity to step down and refused?
Firing is not the way to go out gracefully, particularly with his history at UNC.
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Definitely surprised at this.

One would have to assume UNC chose this path because Brown wasn't willing to step down. I can't possibly imagine this was their preferred course of action.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Definitely surprised at this.

One would have to assume UNC chose this path because Brown wasn't willing to step down. I can't possibly imagine this was their preferred course of action.
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That brings up the question, why was Brown not willing to gracefully step down and chose firing instead?
 
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PrestonyteParrot said:
That brings up the question, why was Brown not willing to gracefully step down and chose firing instead?
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One can only wonder. He probably feels they aren't that far off. While they have not come close to recapturing what they were during his first stint, they were an 8-win team last year and a 9-win team in 2022. They'll likely be in a bowl game this year, so they haven't been total garbage (which is all a bowl really means these days).
 
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I wonder if Chadwell will be a serious candidate for the job. (For UNC)
 
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I wonder if Chadwell will be a serious candidate for the job.
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It's interesting to me that UK fans are convinced they can do better than Stoops. I'd challenge them to make a list of all the coaches in their entire history who have done better than Stoops.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
It's interesting to me that UK fans are convinced they can do better than Stoops. I'd challenge them to make a list of all the coaches in their entire history who have done better than Stoops.
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Is Stoops leaving UK ? I believe his contract runs through 2030.
My comment on Chadwell (which I just edited) was in reference for the UNC job
 
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Harvard Gamecock said:
Is Stoops leaving UK ? I believe his contract runs through 2030.
My comment on Chadwell (which I just edited) was in reference for the UNC job
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Oh, I was assuming it was in reference to the UK job which someone started a thread about on here.
 
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Remember when Tom Herman was the hot new coach. The rumor was he was coming to South Carolina when Spurrier quit mid season. However he backed away when we lost to the Citadel. So we went with Muschamp. Herman ended up flaming out at Texas a few years later. Maybe he will get another shot but probably not at a big name school. Like Muschamp, he may be a good coordinator but not a good head coach.
 
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Brown ranks eighth all time in FBS wins and is the only coach to win more than 100 games at two FBS schools. He wasn't chopped liver; he just stayed at it too long, a la, Holtz, Spurrier, Royal, Broyles, Bryant, and others.
 
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KingWard said:
His offensive schemes are wonderful as long as they have a Nick Marshall at quarterback to run them.
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I was going to say the same thing about Stoops, he's pretty good with a decent QB, I don't see him going anywhere, but I hope they pull the trigger and let him go!
 
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