'25-'26 PSU Lineup Predictions thread

El_Jefe

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Still would
Love to see Rocco Dellagatta transfer in. Taking a grayshirt at Cornell. Legit 265lbs. Two time Jersey Champ. Fargo champ. Has beaten Merrill (WBF in a match he was winning), USAs U23 representative Herrara and other big named recruits. Four years of eligibility left. Has had a few inconsistencies but in PSU room has NCAA Champ possibilities.
Attending Cornell with his brother, and to the best of my knowledge did not consider PSU during recruitment.

We may as well wish we could get Kueter to transfer in.
 

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Where do you come to this conclusion?? Seems like a lot of moving pieces for one year. I don’t think coaches would be bothering with additional eligibility if that were the case
It’s just my feeling that Ono has bigger fish to fry. Teething on D-1 wrestlers adds to his repertoire and enhances the possibility of being a mega star in Japan. Wrestling is a top sport in Japan and winning the Olympics is certainly viewed as more prestigious than a “College” championship in the U.S. I think he will be a “one and done” for us. Time will tell. I’ll show myself to the door now.
 

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This is an idea that I brought up on the old board. Altoona is close enough that they could all train at State College and it's the same school, so there is no issues with transferring credits if someone makes the State College lineup the next year. Aspire to be #1 AND #2 in the country. LOL.
Wouldn’t it be delicious to see Slumlord’s meltdown over this?
 

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For the record, I think most of this thread is nonsense. It’s a conversation piece at best. A lot of rumors and conjecture, no knowledge of what is actually going to happen. We should all realize by now that Cael has a plan, and what that is, none of us know right now. He’s playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

 

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I am asking a serious question. What would taking a shirt be sacrificing? The kid chose this coaching staff and program ... If the kid doesn’t trust the staff to have his best interest in mind, then why would he come to PSU?
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Uh. People are allowed to want different things. They don’t even need to put the reason into words. The questions you ask are so strange. As if you really could not CONCEIVE of a reason why someone might not want to redshirt. It seems trivially easy to me to write out possible, reasonable reasons, but I’m not going to be tricked into doing it. It would be like proving I know what is 3 times 7 just because someone claims they do not.

Human beings literally have evolved to not blindly follow the orders of their parents, their kings. By your logic, we can ask of any teenager, in befuddlement, “if you don’t trust your father enough to follow his every command, then why do you even stay in the household?” Such non sequiturs (“INCONCEIVABLE!”) are in your reasoning that I probably will not reply anymore.

“Why would he come to PSU?” Uh, maybe he came to PSU hoping to improve at wrestling in the best possible place while not redshirting. That seems a reasonable goal.
 
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I am asking a serious question. What would taking a shirt be sacrificing?
Maybe this is too obvious…

Take a look at Braeden. He had a great freshman year, going into NCAAs as the top seed and unfortunately taking two tough, close losses. A great year with chances of going all the way.

He could have taken a RS in hopes of being more ready to win it all. As it stands, we have new recruits who are top notch, including Ono (who was impossible to see coming). He may or may not make the team moving forward. In retrospect, his best option was to forego the RS to maximize his wrestling starts.
 

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Uh. People are allowed to want different things. They don’t even need to put the reason into words. The questions you ask are so strange. As if you really could not CONCEIVE of a reason why someone might not want to redshirt. It seems trivially easy to me to write out possible, reasonable reasons, but I’m not going to be tricked into doing it. It would be like proving I know what is 3 times 7 just because someone claims they do not.

Human beings literally have evolved to not blindly follow the orders of their parents, their kings. By your logic, we can ask of any teenager, in befuddlement, “if you don’t trust your father enough to follow his every command, then why do you even stay in the household?” Such non sequiturs (“INCONCEIVABLE!”) are in your reasoning that I probably will not reply anymore.

“Why would he come to PSU?” Uh, maybe he came to PSU hoping to improve at wrestling in the best possible place while not redshirting. That seems a reasonable goal.
Bottom line is that none of us know what the plan is. I know that is INCONCEIVABLE to some who think they have a crystal ball and know what’s best.
 
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Bottom line is that none of us know what the plan is. I know that is INCONCEIVABLE to some who think they have a crystal ball and know what’s best.

+1 There are actually a lot of reasons for college athletes to want to redshirt in today NCAA environment (NIL, especially when they play a sport where outside financial opportunities are limited). I can see some of these super alphas like Duke or Blaze not being okay with redshirting, knowing they could compete for an individual title right now, but unless you personally know them or the coaching staff, you don't know what's going to happen. I'll refrain from even guessing, although I think it would be best for Kasak to RS this year and let Duke go, then have Duke RS '26 and see where his weight goes. Whatever the lineup, this team is likely battling history (total points record) and not the rest of the field come next March.
 
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Uh. People are allowed to want different things. They don’t even need to put the reason into words. The questions you ask are so strange. As if you really could not CONCEIVE of a reason why someone might not want to redshirt. It seems trivially easy to me to write out possible, reasonable reasons, but I’m not going to be tricked into doing it. It would be like proving I know what is 3 times 7 just because someone claims they do not.

Human beings literally have evolved to not blindly follow the orders of their parents, their kings. By your logic, we can ask of any teenager, in befuddlement, “if you don’t trust your father enough to follow his every command, then why do you even stay in the household?” Such non sequiturs (“INCONCEIVABLE!”) are in your reasoning that I probably will not reply anymore.

“Why would he come to PSU?” Uh, maybe he came to PSU hoping to improve at wrestling in the best possible place while not redshirting. That seems a reasonable goal.
Me after reading that post
 

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The process of taking a redshirt seems to be lost here...

One does not declare that they are redshirtting. If they do not wrestle and have a redshirt available, then they are redshirtting. As an example Kasak was redshirtting, until he wasn't.

Someone may say today that they are not redshirtting in 2025-26, but if they never take the mat for the team (maybe they cannot win the wrestle-off) then they did redshirt. They can leave college without using all their eligibility and say they didn't redshirt if that makes them feel better.
 
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The process of taking a redshirt seems to be lost here...

One does not declare that they are redshirtting. If they do not wrestle and have a redshirt available, then they are redshirtting. As an example Kasak was redshirtting, until he wasn't.

Someone may say today that they are not redshirtting in 2025-26, but if they never take the mat for the team (maybe they cannot win the wrestle-off) then they did redshirt. They can leave college without using all their eligibility and say they didn't redshirt if that makes them feel better.

Or Cael can declare it... (But, your main point is good. It's a redshirt until it isn't.)
https://onwardstate.com/2014/11/05/penn-state-wrestling-media-day-megaludis-retherford-to-redshirt/
 

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Uh. People are allowed to want different things. They don’t even need to put the reason into words. The questions you ask are so strange. As if you really could not CONCEIVE of a reason why someone might not want to redshirt. It seems trivially easy to me to write out possible, reasonable reasons, but I’m not going to be tricked into doing it. It would be like proving I know what is 3 times 7 just because someone claims they do not.

Human beings literally have evolved to not blindly follow the orders of their parents, their kings. By your logic, we can ask of any teenager, in befuddlement, “if you don’t trust your father enough to follow his every command, then why do you even stay in the household?” Such non sequiturs (“INCONCEIVABLE!”) are in your reasoning that I probably will not reply anymore.

“Why would he come to PSU?” Uh, maybe he came to PSU hoping to improve at wrestling in the best possible place while not redshirting. That seems a reasonable goal.
Since I have nothing of value to add to this thread my only input is that I learned today that the "tur" of non sequitur is pronounced with a "d". Had I been a little more articulate during my police career I could have had a grand time throwing out non sequiturs. Domestic violence suspect: "I didn't do nuthin' to her!' Me: "So, was today the first time you beat your wife or do you do it all the time?" Me: "Sir, have you been drinking?" DUI suspect: "No." Me: "How drunk would you say you are on a scale of 1-10?"