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What I always find crazy is that the Hidlay brothers grew up just 30 minutes outside of state college. I was in high school with the oldest brother. A lot of us were surprised when he announced he was not going to PSU like the majority of students do.
 

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PJ mentions he still has school on Monday, which is his last day of HS : ) He also mentioned he will be arriving at Penn State on June 28. Crazy to think that had PJ not won that challenge in match two he ultimately loses 11-0 and Yianni is heading to the World Championships. That was some serious composure by PJ to come storming back from that 9-2 deficit. And to have that composure as an 18-year-old HS Senior is just crazy! Yianni must be beside himself that he didn't finish out match #2.
 
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PJ mentions he still has school on Monday, which is his last day of HS : ) He also mentioned he will be arriving at Penn State on June 28. Crazy to think that had PJ not won that challenge in match two he ultimately loses 11-0 and Yianni is heading to the World Championships. That was some serious composure by PJ to come storming back from that 9-2 deficit. And to have that composure as an 18-year-old HS Senior is just crazy! Yianni must be beside himself that he didn't finish out match #2.
Salt in YD's wound. 😁
 

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So how may psu wrestlers/ commits are qualified for u23 team? I would think lilledahl, blaze, duke, Haines, mesenbrink, welsh and barr are age appropriate and qualified.
 

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What I always find crazy is that the Hidlay brothers grew up just 30 minutes outside of state college. I was in high school with the oldest brother. A lot of us were surprised when he announced he was not going to PSU like the majority of students do.
Didn’t love the ref calls in the Messenbrink match. Flipped Carr for at least 2 and then the ref called injury risk (when Carr put himself in the position) was a match-changing call and the wrong one
 

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Didn’t love the ref calls in the Messenbrink match. Flipped Carr for at least 2 and then the ref called injury risk (when Carr put himself in the position) was a match-changing call and the wrong one
I didn't like it at the time either. But you gotta protect the athlete as an official. No where does it say don't protect him if he puts himself there. And Carr definitely put himself there. Not a situation any Penn St fans will agree with no doubt about that. But once an athlete is hurt in that situation everyone will say man that ref should've stopped that. The refs are in a tough position in those situations
 

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So how may psu wrestlers/ commits are qualified for u23 team? I would think lilledahl, blaze, duke, Haines, mesenbrink, welsh and barr are age appropriate and qualified.

So how may psu wrestlers/ commits are qualified for u23 team? I would think lilledahl, blaze, duke, Haines, mesenbrink, welsh and barr are age appropriate and qualified.
I had posted this elsewhere previously:

The Penn State-related wrestlers who would be qualified to take a U23 slot if they lose at Final X or who won the U23 tournament like Welsh (and there are no U23-eligible wrestlers in their weight at Final X) are:

57 - Lilledahl
61 - Forrest, M. Blaze (If Forrest wins or loses and doesn't accept the spot)
65 - M. Blaze
70 - Duke
74 - Mesenbrink
79 - Haines
86 - Welsh
92 - Barr

The U20 team is based strictly off of who won the U20 World Team Trials in May. Here is the team:

2025 U20 Freestyle World Team​

57 - Anthony Knox
61- Marcus Blaze
65 - Luke Stanich
70 - PJ Duke
74 - Ladarion Lockett
79 - William Henckel
86 - Max McEnelly
92 - Connor Mirasola
97 - Justin Rademacher
125 - Cole Mirasola
 

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Hey Tom, would you please reply to my questions regarding this sequence in the match?



  1. Do you think the referee gave YD too much courtesy time?
  2. Have you ever had something like this delay ever happen in the matches you refereed? If yes, do you give a warning, a point deduction? What is the penalty for a deliberate non injury delay?
  3. Thanks! :)
 

Tom McAndrew

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Hey Tom, would you please reply to my questions regarding this sequence in the match?
  1. Do you think the referee gave YD too much courtesy time?
  2. Have you ever had something like this delay ever happen in the matches you refereed? If yes, do you give a warning, a point deduction? What is the penalty for a deliberate non injury delay?
  3. Thanks! :)

I'm not a freestyle ref, and don't know what the rules are for the situation about which you're asking. And unlike college (I'm not a college ref, but I know the rules really well, and also am friends with several college refs that I can check with if I'm unsure of a call), I only know one freestyle ref. I've talked with him at folkstyle meets we both reffed at, as well as at training sessions for folkstyle refs, but I'm not friendly enough with him that I have ever texted him or e-mailed him, so it's not easy for me to get the insights of a ref that knows the freestyle rules.

It appears that Yianni and his coach were discussing whether to throw a challenge brick. In college, there are challenge bricks, and we've seen situations in college where a wrestler has a quick conversation with their coach about throwing a brick.

In high school (which I ref), there are no challenge bricks. So I rarely encounter a situation where after a stoppage a wrestler is just sitting there discussing things with their coach, and making no effort to return to the center for the restart. In high school, if faced with a situation like that, the ref should signal for stalling, which is either a warning or a point (if a prior stall warning was issued).
 
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