My post was serious- I look forward to that all happening. He has promised all of it and said it will be easily done, with him doing some of it even before he takes office.
I think you have that backwards. 17 counties decide the electoral vote. Not the popular vote. There’s no number of counties that could possibly decide the popular vote because the margin of victory in every county is infinitely variable. Every single vote would actually matter.
The Senate and the Electoral college were concessions to smaller states to get them on board with the Constitution. The smaller states were afraid their rights would be totally swamped by the larger states. That dynamic is even bigger today.
If voting for the losing side means your vote doesn't count, then somewhere close to half of votes are never going to count. They voted and their votes counted, but they were outnumbered by people that voted differently than them. It happens. The fact that they were significantly outvoted doesn't make their vote count any less.
So the election was legitimate now, I guess. For the record I did not vote for Harris and I am NOT a Democrat.
GD are you dumb?
But it does make those votes count less from a national standpoint and my point has been the Presidential election is a national election for the leader of all of the US.
If it ended up exactly 270 to 268? Yeah it would have be a talking point and a legit one.
Your civics teacher sucked, or you were a terrible student. These are the options we're left with now. The United STATES would not exist without the EC. So you can keep throwing out these platitudes about "every vote counts equally" all you want, but the country we have now would have never materialized without the EC. It's baked in because many people wiser than you foresaw things you refuse to acknowledge.
You ranted all yesterday about how many people's civics teachers sucked- we get it, you think we all dont understand how the country was formed.
It’s like people can’t face the reality of multiple things being true at the same time.
Happy to still post the next day. Contrary to what many on here think, I am not a radical extremist who cant handle bad news.
What you said is already the case. NY and CA already dwarf MS in the Electoral College as well. The interests of CA and NY are always going to trump those of Mississippi as it relates to any matters of national policy. The Senate is the counterbalance to that, not the Electoral College.
NY, CA, TX & FL have a lot MORE influence on presidential elections now than they would with a popular vote. And smaller states like MS have even less influence than they would otherwise have.
No it would just ensure a monopoly on all three branches of government by the two most populous states.
Well at least you made a new argument that hasnt already been addressed and refuted a dozen times over.**
Really ? Its illegal to even ask for voter ID in California. Good luck with voting in Mississippi and having your vote count. that would ensure monopoly control of all three branches of government.
California has 12% of the population and 10% of the EC. It does dampen their outsize influence some. We are a FEDERAL Republic. People tend to forget that first part.
But no democrat in CA will even get more than 7% of the popular vote. They’ll get 10% of the electoral vote every time though.
Oh, another point that hasnt already been posted and refuted many times over.**
No, they don't. It's simple math. California has 12% of the US population and 10% of the EC. Mississippi has 0.89% of the US population and 1.12% of the EC. The big states have slightly less influence and the small ones have slightly more than they would without the EC.
And no candidate in Mississippi will ever get close to getting 1.12% of the national popular vote.
We are whatever we say we are. We follow processes that we say we want.
You kind of missed the meaning of FEDERAL. The states do have power separated from the national government. We vote as states for president, not as citizens of a monolithic block. There were and are very good reasons for this. Back then they were all afraid of Virginia by the way.
How a candidate does in state X or state Y wouldnt matter though. Thats what you and others cant seem to grasp- nobody wins or loses a state if everyone's vote counts equally.
I didnt miss the meaning of FEDERAL. I even gave an example of elections which is different from what we currently have, but still qualifies as a 'Federal Republic' system of governance.
Really common false, weak take to say that political parties are 100% polar opposites, thinking 100% of only themselves. All these imaginary false dichotomies need to be exposed. If you really believe that, then when new jobs are created under one administration, please decline them all out of principle. Decline any and all benefits that occur, stand by your guns.
What? You took a comment that applies to one argument and you used it to rant about a separate topic.
