ACC Pushing Schools Not to Play Non-Power-Five Schools on the Road...

DarkCock

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Agreed. What did Bama get for beating Texas on the road last year? They lost two last second SEC games to top 10 teams on the road. All that matter to the committee was the two losses. They've NEVER put a team in with two losses.

Don't lose two: that's the message.

Georgia's OOC next year is a joke. But they got the message. Just get through their schedule with one loss and they're in.

Obviously, making the playoff isn't our concern. But we already play a tougher non-con than the 2x defending national Champs by playing Clemson, why add another P5 school? All I see is a greater chance for injuries to our starters.
 

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TCU was not a conference champion last year. They were a 1 loss non-conference champion with a so-so schedule and they got in over Bama.

Man, I hate the playoff. It never works as promised: "the 4 best teams." We absolutely deserved that ridiculous championship game.
 
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The idea behind the ACC's push on this is to strengthen schedules and reduce embarrassing losses. It's not about playing Power Five opponents on the road. It's about playing the likes of East Carolina, UCF (formerly) or App State on the road, not that we would ever do anything as foolish as that. I can't wait for the nine-game conference schedule myself.
 

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We don’t beat folks but maybe it’s worth considering if we thought we might could maybe stay in a game with…….

what were we talking about
 
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TCU was not a conference champion last year. They were a 1 loss non-conference champion with a so-so schedule and they got in over Bama.

Man, I hate the playoff. It never works as promised: "the 4 best teams." We absolutely deserved that ridiculous championship game.
Tcu should have gotten in over Alabama and proved that by destroying Michigan. No one was beating Georgia that night. They peaked at the perf for time.
 

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Tcu should have gotten in over Alabama and proved that by destroying Michigan. No one was beating Georgia that night. They peaked at the perf for time.
Call me crazy but I would haved preferred to watch Nick Saban and Bryce Young against Georgia. I think they may have come within 50 points. Hell, maybe single digits. Who knows? They may have won.

"They peaked at the perfect time"

They barely beat Ohio State THE GAME BEFORE. They gave up a zillion passing yards to LSU's backup quarterback two games before.

Beating TCU is not peaking. Sorry.
 

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btw, Bama destroyed KState, the actual Big XII champ, a team that beat TCU, in their bowl game. I guess Bama was peaking too.
 

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Call me crazy but I would haved preferred to watch Nick Saban and Bryce Young against Georgia. I think they may have come within 50 points. Hell, maybe single digits. Who knows? They may have won.

"They peaked at the perfect time"

They barely beat Ohio State THE GAME BEFORE. They gave up a zillion passing yards to LSU's backup quarterback two games before.

Beating TCU is not peaking. Sorry.
I think a case could be made that they peaked then. They sure didn't peak against Kentucky.
 

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Call me crazy but I would haved preferred to watch Nick Saban and Bryce Young against Georgia. I think they may have come within 50 points. Hell, maybe single digits. Who knows? They may have won.

"They peaked at the perfect time"

They barely beat Ohio State THE GAME BEFORE. They gave up a zillion passing yards to LSU's backup quarterback two games before.

Beating TCU is not peaking. Sorry.
Think it got rehashed enough by now.

One day we could be a 1-loss SECCG loser and I hope we would get in over a 2-loss Bama who missed the SECCG. Being Alabama is not an entitlement to make the playoff, thankfully.
 

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Think it got rehashed enough by now.

One day we could be a 1-loss SECCG loser and I hope we would get in over a 2-loss Bama who missed the SECCG. Being Alabama is not an entitlement to make the playoff, thankfully.
"One day we could be a 1-loss SECCG loser..."
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Call me crazy but I would haved preferred to watch Nick Saban and Bryce Young against Georgia. I think they may have come within 50 points. Hell, maybe single digits. Who knows? They may have won.

"They peaked at the perfect time"

They barely beat Ohio State THE GAME BEFORE. They gave up a zillion passing yards to LSU's backup quarterback two games before.

Beating TCU is not peaking. Sorry.
Bs, TCU had an awful game that snowballed. Just like Alabama and Clemson with Trevor Lawrence. That Alabama team was touted as the best team of all time and Clemson destroyed them. That happens 1 out of 10 times. Hard to play your best game 2 weeks in a row . That is just football.
 

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Agreed. What did Bama get for beating Texas on the road last year? They lost two last second SEC games to top 10 teams on the road. All that matter to the committee was the two losses. They've NEVER put a team in with two losses.

Don't lose two: that's the message.

Georgia's OOC next year is a joke. But they got the message. Just get through their schedule with one loss and they're in.

Obviously, making the playoff isn't our concern. But we already play a tougher non-con than the 2x defending national Champs by playing Clemson, why add another P5 school? All I see is a greater chance for injuries to our starters.
The article is about playing non-power 5 teams on the road, so East Carolina, Georgia State, etc. This isn't about playing power 5 teams like Texas on the road.

Georgia's schedule is a joke because the SEC canceled their game against Oklahoma at the last minute, and they had to fill the spot. Its not their fault Georgia Tech fell off a cliff!
 

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Tcu should have gotten in over Alabama and proved that by destroying Michigan. No one was beating Georgia that night. They peaked at the perf for time.
This would not even be up for debate had there been a true 16-team playoff in FBS.
 

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The idea behind the ACC's push on this is to strengthen schedules and reduce embarrassing losses. It's not about playing Power Five opponents on the road. It's about playing the likes of East Carolina, UCF (formerly) or App State on the road, not that we would ever do anything as foolish as that. I can't wait for the nine-game conference schedule myself.
I somewhat disagree with the ACC on this one. I have no issue with playing "high profile" mid-majors in their home stadia which seat at least 50k and the game will be a sellout.
 
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Speaking of which, what year is it that Rising Tide Ray has us playing a road game in Boone, NC?
 

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I somewhat disagree with the ACC on this one. I have no issue with playing "high profile" mid-majors in their home stadia which seat at least 50k and the game will be a sellout.
That's too many qualifiers.
 

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I personally don't have an issue with playing G5 teams. There are some very good teams out there that can match up with a lot of P5 teams.
There are also some very mediocre-bad teams on both the G5 and P5 level as well. WIth schedules made out 5-10 years in advance it is close to impossible to determine what teams will be competitive that far in advance.
Now playing FCS teams I do not agree with .
 

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I personally don't have an issue with playing G5 teams. There are some very good teams out there that can match up with a lot of P5 teams.
There are also some very mediocre-bad teams on both the G5 and P5 level as well. WIth schedules made out 5-10 years in advance it is close to impossible to determine what teams will be competitive that far in advance.
Now playing FCS teams I do not agree with .
Agreed. It's hard to imagine Wake or Georgia Tech being "too good" to play road games at places like Memphis, ECU, or Boise.
 

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Agreed. It's hard to imagine Wake or Georgia Tech being "too good" to play road games at places like Memphis, ECU, or Boise.
I'll agree on GT, but Wake with HC Clausen, I would hardly consider a gimme for most teams.
 

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I personally don't have an issue with playing G5 teams. There are some very good teams out there that can match up with a lot of P5 teams.
There are also some very mediocre-bad teams on both the G5 and P5 level as well. WIth schedules made out 5-10 years in advance it is close to impossible to determine what teams will be competitive that far in advance.
Now playing FCS teams I do not agree with .
I'm against playing G5 teams on the road - any of them. We're doing them a favor by putting them on the schedule. And if you've attended a Carolina game at East Carolina, when is the last time one sold out - I mean REALLY sold out? It sure wasn't the most recent ones. I agree about playing FCS teams, though. That ought to go away altogether.
 

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Call me crazy but I would haved preferred to watch Nick Saban and Bryce Young against Georgia. I think they may have come within 50 points. Hell, maybe single digits. Who knows? They may have won.

"They peaked at the perfect time"

They barely beat Ohio State THE GAME BEFORE. They gave up a zillion passing yards to LSU's backup quarterback two games before.

Beating TCU is not peaking. Sorry.
Bama's best win was #11 Miss I believe. Obviously not good enough. Didnt help playing ooc App St, Utah St and ULM. Had they beefed up that, who knows? They are certainly a good example of why you should have a strong ooc schedule imo.
 

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I'll agree on GT, but Wake with HC Clausen, I would hardly consider a gimme for most teams.
Since schedules are made so far in advance, I wasn't speaking to the on-field product or whether somebody is a gimme or not. I was speaking programmatically. Plenty of G5 teams have football environments on par or better than those two football environments. It may not make sense for a P5 team with an 80,000+ seat home stadium to play an away game in 51,000 seat Dowdy-Ficklen stadium at ECU, but neither one of those programs strike me as being "above" such a road trip. At the very least, I would let the individual schools make that determination rather than force them into a multi-million-dollar buy-out to have said teams play at their place. And if the ACC is suggesting they must only schedule home-away series with P5 teams, I don't see how an away game at Vandy or Cincy (soon to be Big XII) is significantly better for those programs than a similar series with ECU.
 
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I've stated in the past that IMO our football relationship with ECU does warrant a trip to Greenville perhaps once for every 5 games (e.g., 2-3 in Columbia, 1-2 in Charlotte, and 1 in Greenville) . Perhaps something similar for UCF. Certainly not a direct 1 for 1. And not for App St.

A notable exception was several years ago when Alabama played at Dook, but that was a one-off to honour the legacy of Wallace Wade, who coached football at both schools. Blue Devils put in extra seating at Wallace Wade Stadium (normal capacity 35k) for the contest.
 

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Speaking of which, what year is it that Rising Tide Ray has us playing a road game in Boone, NC?

Long way off. 2033. App St. plays in Cola in '27, '29, and again '34.

Looking at the future schedules listed on this site we aren't playing any away games with non P5 teams that I can see other than that game
in 2033.
 
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Call me crazy but I would haved preferred to watch Nick Saban and Bryce Young against Georgia. I think they may have come within 50 points. Hell, maybe single digits. Who knows? They may have won.

"They peaked at the perfect time"

They barely beat Ohio State THE GAME BEFORE. They gave up a zillion passing yards to LSU's backup quarterback two games before.

Beating TCU is not peaking. Sorry.
I agree, I believe Bama would’ve challenged UGA and it’s sorta like a rivalry at this point, which could go either way. My problem is I don’t think Bama deserve to be in because they loss too many games. I believe SC could’ve challenged UGA to but regular season games have to mean something to keep making our sport special
 

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Long way off. 2033. App St. plays in Cola in '27, '29, and again '34.

Looking at the future schedules listed on this site we aren't playing any away games with non P5 teams that I can see other than that game
in 2033.
3 in Cola to 1 in Boone. Okay, and they add extra seating for the game up there.
 

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Tcu should have gotten in over Alabama and proved that by destroying Michigan. No one was beating Georgia that night. They peaked at the perf for time.
WTF???...TX Christian did NOT "destroy" MI....51 - 45 says otherwise...RMO III