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NIL salary cap time. Honestly though, bargain. Spent 20 million a year to win a nation championship? You can’t do that in the pros. A top ten QB costs more than that a year. PSU about to be left in the dust. The horse and buggy just got replaced by the automobile and Franklin is recruiting blacksmiths. Fear it, hate it, run from it, but it’s here.
 

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If this is true, and I have no reason to think it’s not, then how can those teams who can’t buy their team get upset when they can move to the top of college football?
Seriously, this is NOT a a level playing field for all teams.
It is not fun anymore when college players get paid better than pros. NFL has a salary cap, but ncaa sits on its hands and does nothing.
Grand Valley State University will have the majority of my attention on Saturday afternoons going forward until this **** show is corrected.
Sorry for the rant.

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Lame Kiffin tweeted this. No idea how credible the source is, but results suggest some accuracy.


Old news on OSU stating the need for $13 mill. There’s also a CJF quote out there that yeah it takes about $13 mill to make it happen . I doubt Kiffin is operating too far out from that number with his run on portal talent .
 

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NIL salary cap time. Honestly though, bargain. Spent 20 million a year to win a nation championship? You can’t do that in the pros. A top ten QB costs more than that a year. PSU about to be left in the dust. The horse and buggy just got replaced by the automobile and Franklin is recruiting blacksmiths. Fear it, hate it, run from it, but it’s here.

Lol. Professional sports leagues have salary caps, but clearly NIL does not. Somehow they need to get this crap under control quickly.

Sadly after watching college football for 49 yrs, I think within 2-3 seasons I won’t be any longer.
Can't cap it for a whole bunch of reasons.

NCAA had its chances, but was just to arrogant to compromise. Now they are totally fu@ked. Look at all of the parties arrayed to overturn their attempt to restrict transfers. BOHICA, baby!!!!
 

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I started following the NFL MUCH more this season - I never used to watch it, I was a college football guy. However, I find myself enjoying it much more than what CFB has become. College football is truly on its death bed.

Both leagues are playing for money now, and the NFL is much higher quality.
 

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Lol. Professional sports leagues have salary caps, but clearly NIL does not. Somehow they need to get this crap under control quickly.

Sadly after watching college football for 49 yrs, I think within 2-3 seasons I won’t be any longer.
PSU has one, maybe two years to prove it can hang with the big boys under this old model of roster building or it better get ready to pay big money to reload year after year. The program can very easily become the place where you go to start your career and then you make a jump to a contender for more money after a year or two. This is the baseball steroid era of college football. If you aren’t doing it, the other guy is. Colorado, OSU, and the entire SEC are juicing and they won’t hesitate to over do it if that means they win. As much as I applaud the grand experiment, that was a battle for a different time when wars were fought with sticks and stones. This is modern warfare, the old rules don’t apply.
 

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Old news on OSU stating the need for $13 mill. There’s also a CJF quote out there that yeah it takes about $13 mill to make it happen . I doubt Kiffin is operating too far out from that number with his run on portal talent .
Is there money involved? Sure. $13mm? I'm skeptical. To accumulate that sum there has to be a number of large, publicized deals and we ain't seeing them. They could be disclosed in the future. We'll see.
 
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PSU has one, maybe two years to prove it can hang with the big boys under this old model of roster building or it better get ready to pay big money to reload year after year. The program can very easily become the place where you go to start your career and then you make a jump to a contender for more money after a year or two. This is the baseball steroid era of college football. If you aren’t doing it, the other guy is. Colorado, OSU, and the entire SEC are juicing and they won’t hesitate to over do it if that means they win. As much as I applaud the grand experiment, that was a battle for a different time when wars were fought with sticks and stones. This is modern warfare, the old rules don’t apply.
The difference between this and the steroid issue is that it is completely, out in the open legal. At least in the steroid era, the MLB could theoretically crack down whenever they wanted to.
 

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Can't cap it for a whole bunch of reasons.

NCAA had its chances, but was just to arrogant to compromise. Now they are totally fu@ked. Look at all of the parties arrayed to overturn their attempt to restrict transfers. BOHICA, baby!!!!
It’s going to be difficult to try to cap it. The best way is to probably do what the NBA does: you spend more than X, you pay a luxury tax penalty. The penalty money gets redistributed to your competition. Or, if you take more than X transfers in a year, you loose Y scholarships the following year and play with a smaller roster until the following season.
 

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The difference between this and the steroid issue is that it is completely, out in the open legal. At least in the steroid era, the MLB could theoretically crack down whenever they wanted to.
Steroid era as in everyone is doing it. If you, the player, want to compete with the juiced guy for a roster spot, you need to juice also.
 

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It’s going to be difficult to try to cap it. The best way is to probably do what the NBA does: you spend more than X, you pay a luxury tax penalty. The penalty money gets redistributed to your competition. Or, if you take more than X transfers in a year, you loose Y scholarships the following year and play with a smaller roster until the following season.
But NIL can't be capped. It involves commercial transactions and third-parties that the NCAA can't control.
 

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I started following the NFL MUCH more this season - I never used to watch it, I was a college football guy. However, I find myself enjoying it much more than what CFB has become. College football is truly on its death bed.

Both leagues are playing for money now, and the NFL is much higher quality.
The NFL is a very polished product.
 

BiochemPSU

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The NFL is a very polished product.
Agreed. Never really understood the people who looked down on the NFL because who wants to watch a bunch of paid guys who act like a-holes. I would rather watch a bunch of kids who we all pretend go to class, allegedly do this for free, and never ever ever do things off the field that are just as bad, if not worse, than the pros.
 

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Lol. Professional sports leagues have salary caps, but clearly NIL does not. Somehow they need to get this crap under control quickly.

Sadly after watching college football for 49 yrs, I think within 2-3 seasons I won’t be any longer.
I as well. Sad.
 

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College football is becoming the “buy a player for a year” league. Honestly, there’s no need to recruit anymore, just have HS players enter the portal.
I do wonder what will happen to the HS recruits. At this rate, all the roster spots will be taken up by the kids that are staying and those that are transferring in, not leaving much space for a fresh faced, unproven 18-19 year old HS player.
 
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I do wonder what will happen to the HS recruits. At this rate, all the roster spots will be taken up by the kids that are staying and those that are transferring in, not leaving much space for a fresh faced, unproven 18-19 year old HS player.

For some teams that will be the case. But there will always be a lot of players exhausting eligibility, leaving early for the NFL, or being processed out of the system (you know, all of those guys in the portal that never find a landing spot).
 
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I can't understand where OSU gets the money from, it's Ohio, not California, Florida, Texas . I could even understand ND with all of it's alumni.
What i'm getting at , what do they have logistically that PSU doesn't ? Does their alumni have more wealth ? do their fans not complain about ticket prices?
I see nothing classy about OSU , i just don't, but they are paying.
 

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I can't understand where OSU gets the money from, it's Ohio, not California, Florida, Texas . I could even understand ND with all of it's alumni.
What i'm getting at , what do they have logistically that PSU doesn't ? Does their alumni have more wealth ? do their fans not complain about ticket prices?
I see nothing classy about OSU , i just don't, but they are paying.
Columbus is a major metropolitan city. Doesn't have any professional other than NHL. tOSU football is the biggest game in town.

PSU is in the middle of no where compared to tOSU being in the heart of a major metropolitan region, and state capitol.

There is a huge difference between the two.
 

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For some teams that will be the case. But there will always be a lot of players exhausting eligibility, leaving early for the NFL, or being processed out of the system (you know, all of those guys in the portal that never find a landing spot).
This.

probably two tiers develop with varying levels of NIL money and success amongst them. One group of teams keep the old route: recruit the guys who don’t command much money, build, pay to keep who you have when necessary(if you can), try to be competitive once every three to four years before your best players are sick of losing to the other group/tired of being under paid and go to the portal or NFL.

The other group pays for the five stars every year and the best portal guys. They actively recruit the top talent from other schools and encourage them to transfer when the portal opens. When they don’t win that year, unload the dead weight and repeat spending. The best part is these are one year deals, they won’t be saddled with a bad contract for four+ years. Next!

it really looks like MLB. The big spenders who can compete every year and the smaller market teams that really can’t compete, so they just exist to make money. On the other hand, Perhaps it has been this way ever since Saban walked into Alabama and we just didn’t want to believe it.
 
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NIL salary cap time. Honestly though, bargain. Spent 20 million a year to win a nation championship? You can’t do that in the pros. A top ten QB costs more than that a year. PSU about to be left in the dust. The horse and buggy just got replaced by the automobile and Franklin is recruiting blacksmiths. Fear it, hate it, run from it, but it’s here.
Well....each fan has a choice to make....root for PSU understanding the lack of money for NIL....and be happy with 10-2 and NY6 bowl....or switch allegence to a team that has the money.
If this is true, and I have no reason to think it’s not, then how can those teams who can’t buy their team get upset when they can move to the top of college football?
Seriously, this is NOT a a level playing field for all teams.
It is not fun anymore when college players get paid better than pros. NFL has a salary cap, but ncaa sits on its hands and does nothing.
Grand Valley State University will have the majority of my attention on Saturday afternoons going forward until this **** show is corrected.
Sorry for the rant.

OL
Kind of makes you understand why ACC teams are screaming about B1G and SEC TV revenue.
 
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On the other side of the coin, it’s good to see the players finally able to openly benefit financially from the cash cow that is college football.
The dirty little back alley deals can now move into the past.
 

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Well....each fan has a choice to make....root for PSU understanding the lack of money for NIL....and be happy with 10-2 and NY6 bowl....or switch allegence to a team that has the money.

Kind of makes you understand why ACC teams are screaming about B1G and SEC TV revenue.

There is a third choice, tune out entirely. If you are capable of switching teams then chances are you were not really a fan.
 
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So this will be the new excuse every time we lose to OSU, "Just can't afford to compete with them"? I can't believe Washington was buying guys left and right, they had a damn good coach and staff that got it done.
 

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So this will be the new excuse every time we lose to OSU, "Just can't afford to compete with them"? I can't believe Washington was buying guys left and right, they had a damn good coach and staff that got it done.
Got it almost done.

But fair point, there are just headwinds some teams face that others don't. Penn State is somewhere in the middle.
 
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