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OG Goat Holder

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Bowls will continue to go down in value. We will need another way to influence perception - like making the playoff.

If we are smart, our goal is to do that once every 3-4 years. This isn’t 2009, bowls mean nothing. If anything missing a bowl helps you concentrate on crootin for the next year.
 

GloryDawg

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Bowls will continue to go down in value. We will need another way to influence perception - like making the playoff.

If we are smart, our goal is to do that once every 3-4 years. This isn’t 2009, bowls mean nothing. If anything missing a bowl helps you concentrate on crootin for the next year.
Mississippi State should be able to make a 12-team playoff every three to four years. What we can't do is schedule a P5 as one of our three OOC games if we start to play nine SEC games.
 

paindonthurt

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Bowls will continue to go down in value. We will need another way to influence perception - like making the playoff.

If we are smart, our goal is to do that once every 3-4 years. This isn’t 2009, bowls mean nothing. If anything missing a bowl helps you concentrate on crootin for the next year.
17 me man.

No $h1t? Let’s just decide to make the playoffs every 4 years!

Otherwise we ain’t smart as ole goat 🐐.
 

OG Goat Holder

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17 me man.

No $h1t? Let’s just decide to make the playoffs every 4 years!

Otherwise we ain’t smart as ole goat 🐐.
Until our NIL/game attendance is like the blue bloods, trying to just be good all the time is a futile effort, like most of our history.

Again, anybody trying to do or think differently at MSU is vilified by people like you.

What did the last bowl streak net us? We are in the same place we were in 2010 within the SEC, ain’t a damn thing changed.

And what do you remember? That’s right, 2014.
 

paindonthurt

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Until our NIL/game attendance is like the blue bloods, trying to just be good all the time is a futile effort, like most of our history.

Again, anybody trying to do or think differently at MSU is vilified by people like you.

What did the last bowl streak net us? We are in the same place we were in 2010 within the SEC, ain’t a damn thing changed.

And what do you remember? That’s right, 2014.
We did something only 7 other schools did.

We can’t just flip a switch and decide to make everyone want to donate money or come to games or blah blah blah.

The only people vilifying you is you when you act like you are smarter than everyone else.

If it’s so easy, go be the GD AD somewhere and do it mane!!
 

OG Goat Holder

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We can’t just flip a switch and decide to make everyone want to donate money or come to games or blah blah blah.
No shlt. And the bowl streak sure didn’t make much of a dent.

That’s the point, we have to do something different. You’ve demonstrated that you see that problem. Now we must formulate a plan and execute it. That’s where we differ. You want to keep doing the same ole, hoping things change.
 

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Don’t worry @dogeater will be by soon to tell us all how desperate we are for acknowleding this. We can all sulk back to our trailer parks after he allows us to
 

DerHntr

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Bowls will continue to go down in value. We will need another way to influence perception - like making the playoff.

If we are smart, our goal is to do that once every 3-4 years. This isn’t 2009, bowls mean nothing. If anything missing a bowl helps you concentrate on crootin for the next year.

How many times in our history have we ended the season ranked 12 or higher? How about in recent history (say 1990 to present)? A goal of making the playoffs once every 3-4 years isn’t reasonable. Once a decade would be a challenge.
 

OG Goat Holder

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How many times in our history have we ended the season ranked 12 or higher? How about in recent history (say 1990 to present)? A goal of making the playoffs once every 3-4 years isn’t reasonable. Once a decade would be a challenge.
Not many, probably 2014 and 1999. But that’s the point, sacrifice the other years to have that up year, and maybe it happens more often.
 

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Point is they have the NIL $$, they have attendance and we've beaten their azzes regularly
It’s not an exact science. But I don’t think anyone would argue that they’ve got more potential than us. Their weirdness holds them back, but that’s specific to them. But that’s not the general rule.
 

dogeater

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no need to kick a man when he is down, especially after that Bball loss ya'll took today.....ouch.
 

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Boy Arnett and his advisers really wrecked this team. All he had to do was tweak the Air Raid and add a few run plays-formations.
Didn't even need to tweak it. Just let Spurrier and Hollingshead do their thing. The run plays were already there, just have to run them.
 

mcdawg22

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Not many, probably 2014 and 1999. But that’s the point, sacrifice the other years to have that up year, and maybe it happens more often.
What exactly does that look like? In week 8 sitting at 4-4, the coaching staff goes to team and says, Guys we have no chance to get into the playoff so we are going ahead and tanking 3 of these next four so we can concentrate on recruiting instead of having to do bowl game prep in December.
 

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What exactly does that look like? In week 8 sitting at 4-4, the coaching staff goes to team and says, Guys we have no chance to get into the playoff so we are going ahead and tanking 3 of these next four so we can concentrate on recruiting instead of having to do bowl game prep in December.
Nah, I'm talking offseason recrootin. Once season starts, you do the best with what you have, and it means something because you're getting reps for the guys who will play next year. Rather than throwing them away on mercenaries to get you to 6-6. Long term payoff. Once season is over, you get a head start on recrootin, while everybody else is prepping for bowls.
Not rocket science.
 

paindonthurt

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No shlt. And the bowl streak sure didn’t make much of a dent.

That’s the point, we have to do something different. You’ve demonstrated that you see that problem. Now we must formulate a plan and execute it. That’s where we differ. You want to keep doing the same ole, hoping things change.
You have no idea what I want to do. I’m simply saying the bowl streak wasn’t just ho hum.

it was something to be proud of and use to you know…..be different. Like hey we have been to 13 straight bowl games. Only 7 other schools have done that. We are DIFFERENT than everyone else:

You are so damn arrogant and stupid.
 
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dogeater

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For educational purposes only.

OM played in 15 straight bowl games beginning in 1957. There were no freebies in those day so 3-7, and 5-7 and you bowl in your bathroom. Among those 15 consecutive bowls are six (6) trips to the Sugar Bowl (played in New Orleans for those who are unaware) a couple of Cotton and Gator Bowls and a Peach bowl. OM's streak occurred in an era when there were TEN (10)--that's right TEN--total bowl games. OM did not get invited to a bowl game in 1956 despite a winning record of 7-3 (4-2 SEC.). The two prior years '54, '55 we played in the Cotton and Sugar Bowls--so but for the 7-3 season in '56 the streak would have been 18. You might want to reflect on this data as you assess the historical nature of your so-called "bowl streak" which includes two losing teams.
 
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paindonthurt

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For educational purposes only.

OM played in 15 straight bowl games beginning in 1957. There were no freebies in those day so 3-7, and 5-7 and you bowl in your bathroom. Among those 15 consecutive bowls are six (6) trips to the Sugar Bowl (played in New Orleans for those who are unaware) a couple of Cotton and Gator Bowls and a Peach bowl. OM's streak occurred in an era when there were TEN (10)--that's right TEN--total bowl games. OM did not get invited to a bowl game in 1956 despite a winning record of 7-3 (4-2 SEC.). The two prior years '54, '55 we played in the Cotton and Sugar Bowls--so but for the 7-3 season in '56 the streak would have been 18. You might want to reflect on this data as you assess the historical nature of your so-called "bowl streak" which includes two losing teams.
17 off
 

dogeater

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merely providing context for your "historical bowl streak" (with two losing teams)...
 

dogeater

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Perhaps you could expand your vocabulary...ever considered reading a book? Begin with something introductory such as "Goodnight Moon" as the images will assist your understanding of the dialogue.

PS. When you abandon the trailer park talk my retorts will end.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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I told myself, I can be on the board without having to use the ignore button for anyone. Surely we would never have to deal with someone being being out and out troll.
troll GIF
 

dogeater

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press "ignore."
i limit my content to relevant matters but will not refrain from pushing back against insults, childish or otherwise.
am learning that a handful on this board do not enjoy data.
 

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No shlt. And the bowl streak sure didn’t make much of a dent.

That’s the point, we have to do something different. You’ve demonstrated that you see that problem. Now we must formulate a plan and execute it. That’s where we differ. You want to keep doing the same ole, hoping things change.
I'd say our program is viewed more favorably now than it has been at any point in our history.
 
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QuadrupleOption

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OM played in 15 straight bowl games beginning in 1957. There were no freebies in those day so 3-7, and 5-7 and you bowl in your bathroom. Among those 15 consecutive bowls are six (6) trips to the Sugar Bowl (played in New Orleans for those who are unaware) a couple of Cotton and Gator Bowls and a Peach bowl. OM's streak occurred in an era when there were TEN (10)--that's right TEN--total bowl games. OM did not get invited to a bowl game in 1956 despite a winning record of 7-3 (4-2 SEC.). The two prior years '54, '55 we played in the Cotton and Sugar Bowls--so but for the 7-3 season in '56 the streak would have been 18. You might want to reflect on this data as you assess the historical nature of your so-called "bowl streak" which includes two losing teams.
So what I'm seeing here is that your football program hasn't been relevant in .... 50 years.
 
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