It truly was a great run. Many great universities have been unable to do to it in the modern age. OM hasn't done anything like it since integration
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Your comment is very descriptive for many, many OM seasons over the past 50 years.
Presently we are relearning what it takes to win. Two access bowls in the last three years is a start...now we want more.
Hope we both make the playoffs in the coming years.
I guess I will have to because I don’t give a **** about Ole Miss and their history.
And with this new success you are on a Mississippi state board when no one said a word about ole Miss
just trying to help you guys put your "streak" in perspective....see you later.
I heard you were occasionally great until integration and they made you play the other college teams that were worth of **** like Alabama
for the 46,000,000th time a MS fan demonstrates an affected nonchalance towards his No 1 rival's achievements...
If 9 years ago if there was a 12-team playoff and not a four-team playoff Miss State would have been in the playoff. I said every 10 years or so. The polls are no longer voted on by 1000 sports writers at the AP. It is done by a small group of people. Pull you head out of your *** and understand things have changed. Ole Miss would have made it two of the past five seasons if there was a 12-team playoff. If those cock sucking scum can do, then Miss State can do it. You are new so I figure there's a good chance you are a bear troll.
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MS making the playoffs once a decade is guaranteed if one looks solely towards the past record. the question becomes does that past record strongly correlate to the circumstances existing in the game from '24 forward...lots of changes going on. GA, AL, LSU, OK, and TX will expect to regularly appear in the top 12--not saying they all will but that will be a baseline for these teams. TN, AU, and OM have legitimate aspirations of finishing top 12 every 2-3 years, FL will be back at some point as will TAMU....how many SEC teams are allowed in and what SEC record will make the cut? i'm guessing most years a team with more than two losses is out--this is going to be absolutely brutal format and the competition within the conference is going to be more fierce than ever.
Congratulations @dogeater for your team being so successful while black males were unable to play college football. I am shocked a school that embraced racism was so successful recruiting the white athlete in the 50's and 60's in Mississippi. Also congrats for never playing Alabama.
Again - if our bowl streak was so easy - why didn't the other schools do it as well? I don't give a **** if we went at 1-11- the streak still happened.
Again - if our bowl streak was so easy - why didn't the other schools do it as well? I don't give a **** if we went at 1-11- the streak still happened.
What is "MS"? MS is the abbreviation for "Mississippi", yet it seems as if you are trying really hard to disparage Mississippi State University in all your posts. I get that you have nothing better to do than hang out on a State message board, but come on - at least try to get the name right, ********.
You're correct about the bold sentence above - but that also applies to Ole Miss. To expect a 10-2 season 2 out of 3 years going forward isn't realistic, for the reasons you list. Louisville and Georgia Tech become an additional SEC opponent most likely, in the near future, and hopefully they get rid of the P5 OOC mandate, but they may not.
I respect what Lane has done, and the OM alumni certainly appear to want to do whatever necessary, much more than MSU. But I would not expect the playoff every 2-3 years. Maybe every 5 years. That's why I've been telling people here, screw a bowl, pick a single year to build up to, and give yourself a chance to make the playoff and be visible.
Ole Miss's streak occurred when black players were not allowed to play in Mississippi and nearly all of the south. There is absolutely nothing relevant about it in the modern era.
Are there any color pictures of any of that or only black and white because that was a reeeeeealy long time ago?
James Meredith was forceably admitted into OM in 1962. OM, Ross Barnett and the IHL deserve all the credit for oppossing his admission, the ensuing riots and all that followed. It took OM decades to overcome that nightmare but the healing began in earnest in 1976 when the student body elected Ben Williams, OM's first black football player, as Col. Reb. That healing is still ongoing but a recent strong sign of the rejection of racism was evident when the entire squads of OM and MS football teams marched for a new state flag and HCs Leach and Kiffin (two new residents of the state) along with SEC Commissioner Sankey stood against a state flag with confederate symbols. Kylin Hill from MS played a critical role in this effort by announcing he would not play for MS if the flag was not changed--a really courageous move on his part.
Meanwhile, back to the facts, MS admitted its first Black student in 1965, three years after Meredith's admission. Southern Miss and Milsaps admitted their first black students the same year, 1965. Belhaven admitted its first black student in the early 70s. So these campuses were lily white for three years (or more) after Meredith's forced admission--was that just an incredible accident or was that by design--we all know the correct answer. An example was made at OM for good reason--OM racism was overt--but the racial barrier at MS and other colleges in Mississippi was identical but less overt. The shame of this hatred does not reside within any one segment or any one university in our state--though OM has deservedly paid the greatest price--this hatred and ignorance was perpetuated, with few exceptions, by white Mississippians and our government, churches and nearly all of our institutions across the board. One can only hope that we continue to make progress with race relations in the future.
Meanwhile, back to the facts, MS admitted its first Black student in 1965, three years after Meredith's admission. Southern Miss and Milsaps admitted their first black students the same year, 1965. Belhaven admitted its first black student in the early 70s. So these campuses were lily white for three years (or more) after Meredith's forced admission--was that just an incredible accident or was that by design--we all know the correct answer. An example was made at OM for good reason--OM racism was overt--but the racial barrier at MS and other colleges in Mississippi was identical but less overt. The shame of this hatred does not reside within any one segment or any one university in our state--though OM has deservedly paid the greatest price--this hatred and ignorance was perpetuated, with few exceptions, by white Mississippians and our government, churches and nearly all of our institutions across the board. One can only hope that we continue to make progress with race relations in the future.
I can tell you now it looks a whole lot different at Davis Wade than it did in 2010. Our stadium is nice and the game experience is better. Now that they are cleaning up the tailgate situation it will be even better.
It's funny, but I don't remember any of the other schools waving confederate flags into the 2000's, having a confederate colonel as their mascot in 2003, or their band playing Dixie until 2009. You still had people in 2020 running a campaign to end the flag ban. GTFO here and don't try to lump all Mississippians in with your school's racist BS.
Most everybody in the SEC has upgraded their stadiums in some way. We are still in about the same place we were. That's my point, we are simply 'keeping up' in all these categories, not pulling ahead.
Darryl on what level is your reading comprehension? Are you asserting that State was not part of the legacy of racism in Mississippi?
I do recognize that OM holding onto these symbols of racism into the 21st century is both embarrassing and humiliating...
I do recognize that OM holding onto these symbols of racism into the 21st century is both embarrassing and humiliating...
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Perhaps it was, but we did do the Loyola thing in 1963. For once, perception is on our side, and we are not known as the racist major university in MS.
You're probably gonna lose this battle, dude. Might be time to do the famed Homer exit:
Hold up . . . the bolded, underlined parts of your post are your opinions, not facts.
Concerning James Meredith's admission to Ole Miss, I would suppose that Meredith was "admitted" on the same day he enrolled - October 1, 1962 - which was shortly after the riots on campus were subdued. Dr. Richard Holmes, the first black student at Mississippi State, was admitted on July 19, 1965. Thus, Holmes was admitted to Mississippi State two years, nine months and eighteen days after Meredith was admitted to Ole Miss . . . not three years (or more) like you said.
Very high.
What level is your interest in your #1 rival's message board? And, more to the point, why is it so high?
You're changing the subject.
Darryl specifically said: 1) "I don't remember any of the other schools waving confederate flags into the 2000's;" 2) "[I don't remember any of the other schools] having a confederate colonel as their mascot in 2003;" and 3) "[I don't remember any of the other schools] band playing Dixie until 2009."
Your reply to Darryl doesn't address any of those things. Instead, you ask a very broad, non-specific question.
Are you alleging that Mississippi State is a "part of the legacy of racism in Mississippi?" If so, then please be more specific with your allegations. Please tell us specifically how Mississippi State has been racist.
I find your post incredible when you know that the first black student was admitted in 1965. of course state was part of the racist culture that was pervasive throughout mississpp--there is no denying that. the entire structure of the state of mississippi including higher ed was deeply involved in racism.
well maybe you're not a complete dubmass. how are you at history though? who was your favorite british prime minister from the 1980's?
i was specifically asking you about a piece of history trivia. guess that's not your strong suit.
When Ole Miss drops "Ole Miss" and "Rebels" from their athletic teams - then come talk to us. Until then, your athletic symbols still are a horrible representation for the state of Mississippi. Always will be until a change is made.
@dogeater Also, please ask your buddies at UMiss to stop placing klan hat images over the state of Mississippi. The Colonel Reb moustache is a sly touch there, though.
You guys were still flying that flag in THIS century fella. Don’t play dumb.
I think we are and have been ahead of Arkansas for most of that stint. I’m not sure what extra level you think we will achieve without cold hard cash. There is no magic formula, system, or scheme. Buy decent players and have consistent leadership. Arnette was a colossal mistake and not one we can afford to make again.
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