And you get a Ram, and you get a Ram, and you get a Ram

PSUJam

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Helluva lot less than the cost of the vehicle.
What could the tax on a 6 month lease possibly be?

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What could the tax on a 6 month lease possibly be?

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For the remainder of this year, not much. Next year when the lease is in force for 12 months, more. How much more? Let's just hope that the NIL collective is advising the beneficiaries to keep some cash in reserve for April 15, 2025.
 

PSUJam

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For the remainder of this year, not much. Next year when the lease is in force for 12 months, more. How much more? Let's just hope that the NIL collective is advising the beneficiaries to keep some cash in reserve for April 15, 2025.
But can't another NIL just pay for the taxes?
 

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I have an ‘18 and couldn’t disagree more. Of the big 3, the ram rode the best when I tested them all.
I'll say this, out of all of the 1/2 ton pickups Dodge Ram is the most like a truck. I know my friends '20 rides much better when towing a 21 ft boat. I'm not a brand snob when it comes to trucks, but it's my observation after riding in a lot of them that Rams ride like my 2022 F150 XL aluminum body work truck. My personal 2012 XLT steel body rides great.
 

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What is to stop a school from giving NIL to as may players they want and claim they are walk-ons? It's a great way to both expand the roster and corner the market on talent.
 

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What is to stop a school from giving NIL to as may players they want and claim they are walk-ons? It's a great way to both expand the roster and corner the market on talent.
Schools that offer a scholarship and a NIL amount that leaves the player more money in pocket. Doesn't take much.
 

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I'll say this, out of all of the 1/2 ton pickups Dodge Ram is the most like a truck. I know my friends '20 rides much better when towing a 21 ft boat. I'm not a brand snob when it comes to trucks, but it's my observation after riding in a lot of them that Rams ride like my 2022 F150 XL aluminum body work truck. My personal 2012 XLT steel body rides great.
I have a 2017 Aluminum body XLT F-150 and I couldn’t be happier with the ride. Silky smooth. I don’t know much about the new Rams other than their reputation from years past, which wasn’t good. I do wonder however, why I see so many newer Rams with rust on the rear fenders above the tires and the rear bumper.
 
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NIL is honestly great - players should be able to market themselves and get paid for it and not be constrained by "amateur status" being in college. But this is just pay to play which is not the same thing. Does each player have the same marketing value? Is the company providing the vehicles getting a tangible return in advertising value from the players?
 

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NIL is honestly great - players should be able to market themselves and get paid for it and not be constrained by "amateur status" being in college. But this is just pay to play which is not the same thing. Does each player have the same marketing value? Is the company providing the vehicles getting a tangible return in advertising value from the players?
1. No, each player does not have the same marketing value, BUT

2. In this case it's not the auto dealership that is the counterparty to the NIL transaction. My understanding is that a Utah NIL collective raised the funds from a myriad of donors and then used those funds to arrange truck leases between the players and the dealership. The dealership was merely a seller of trucks (and with 85+ short-term, non-market leases was, I'm sure, handsomely compensated for the deluge of paperwork they took on). What value did the donors who provided the cash receive in return? Who knows. Which raises another question: could a player who didn't need or want a truck opt to take cash instead?
 

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Seeing these stories just reinforces in my mind that players should be able to major in football. I know we joke about O$U and "I didn't come here to play school." But it makes sense more and more.

I'm not saying that they *must* major in football, but the option should be open to them. We all know a handful of guys on each team are only at college as a pathway to the NFL, whether real or imagined. Now that they're getting paid, why do we continue to try and convince ourselves otherwise? They shouldn't have to sit in a classroom pretending to care.

I equate it to forcing a minor league baseball player - just out of high school - to sit in a classroom during the day so he is eligible to pitch in the evening. Doesn't make sense.
 
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Seeing these stories just reinforces in my mind that players should be able to major in football. I know we joke about O$U and "I didn't come here to play school." But it makes sense more and more.

I'm not saying that they *must* major in football, but the option should be open to them. We all know a handful of guys on each team are only at college as a pathway to the NFL, whether real or imagined. Now that they're getting paid, why do we continue to try and convince ourselves otherwise? They shouldn't have to sit in a classroom pretending to care.

I equate it to forcing a minor league baseball player - just out of high school - to sit in a classroom during the day so he is eligible to pitch in the evening. Doesn't make sense.
High level college athletes are probably making more than minor league baseball players. Makes you realize how misguided this all is.
 
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Seeing these stories just reinforces in my mind that players should be able to major in football. I know we joke about O$U and "I didn't come here to play school." But it makes sense more and more.

I'm not saying that they *must* major in football, but the option should be open to them. We all know a handful of guys on each team are only at college as a pathway to the NFL, whether real or imagined. Now that they're getting paid, why do we continue to try and convince ourselves otherwise? They shouldn't have to sit in a classroom pretending to care.

I equate it to forcing a minor league baseball player - just out of high school - to sit in a classroom during the day so he is eligible to pitch in the evening. Doesn't make sense.
If a University creates a major in football, then does that not mean any student can apply for that major?
 
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LB99

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If a University creates a major in football, then does that not mean any student can apply for that major?
Sure. And they can be told it is full. Like the rest of us were told when we were at dear old state and the athletes needed a class and they had the privilege of picking classes before the general student body.
 

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Seeing these stories just reinforces in my mind that players should be able to major in football. I know we joke about O$U and "I didn't come here to play school." But it makes sense more and more.

I'm not saying that they *must* major in football, but the option should be open to them. We all know a handful of guys on each team are only at college as a pathway to the NFL, whether real or imagined. Now that they're getting paid, why do we continue to try and convince ourselves otherwise? They shouldn't have to sit in a classroom pretending to care.

I equate it to forcing a minor league baseball player - just out of high school - to sit in a classroom during the day so he is eligible to pitch in the evening. Doesn't make sense.

I picture a hot-shot, 5-star recruit getting home after a visit to Penn State and saying to his friends and family, “Can you believe it?! They actually showed me the f*cking library!” Then all his friends and family members respond, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

😞
 

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Which would have the higher tanking ranking?

Penn State football team in AP poll

Penn State football major in U.S. News & World Report

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