Andy K in the news…

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Was the offense fun to watch at times? Of course. But there are plenty of coordinators who can score zero TDs against OSU.

I’d like him to stay because I think he’d be better with a more mobile QB. And for continuity. But if he leaves, it won’t be the end of the world.

It won’t be the end of the world. There are plenty of offensive minds.
 
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Good points. I understand what you are saying. I look at it this way. Do we think the 2023 offense with MY calling the plays was capable of inflicting its will on an opponent to wear them down and salt away a game (Illinois)? Would the 2023 offense have been able to put together a game winning drive on the road with down field passing and picking up 4th downs at crucial times to win the game (USC). Would last year’s offense had the capability to lead multiple come from behind victories on the road? Does Allar look better at reading a defense and getting the ball down field? I don’t think it is all in the stats even though the stats are still very good.
I think this team won games this year that showed real toughness. I also think Coach Franklin and staff made some gutsy calls, especially in the Minnesota game. Whether stats support it or not, this team seems tough and confident. They're 11-1 and playing for the Big 10 Championship. Coach Franklin said the school admin and the football coaching staff are on the same page. He also said there's more parity in college football now. PSU has some great opportunities this year. I'm hopeful PSU will get more great opportunities in the future.
 
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The data back you up.
As fun as it has been to watch Warren playing Superman every week:

Believe it or not, last year, under Yurcich, PSU led the Big Ten in scoring (12th in the nation)
This year, PSU is 4th in the Big Ten in scoring (30th in the nation)

Last year, PSU played perhaps the toughest schedule in the nation with regard to defenses faced - PSU faced the top 3 scoring defenses in the nation (not counting PSU's own defense), and 6 of the top 40.

This year - PSU faced just 3 of the top 40 defenses (and due to favorable scheduling, did not play 3 nationally top 10 defenses in the Big Ten)

Factoring out the emotions, and looking at the data, compared to 2023:
In addition to scoring being down (despite playing far less imposing defenses)
Warren's productivity has been fun.
The Tailback run game has dropped further.
The WRs have been even less impactful.
Colorful nicknames aside, it would be impossible to argue that the offense has been objectively better in 2024.

Fortunately, as Blair alluded to, they will have at least two more games to show their capabilities before the final chapter is written on 2024.
You know I love using real data to evaluate anything. However, I think you should consider another stat that I personally find very important.

In 2024 PSU averaged 6.7 yards per play - 5th in the country
In 2023, 5.5 ypp - 66th in the county
In 2022, 6.1 ypp - 26th in the country

Your points about defenses faced is noted. It would be interesting to see the average ypp given up by all PSU opponents in those years for comparison. Obviously, having Michigan on the schedule last year would skew the ypp data down.

Post note: PSU was 105th in 2021 (4.9ypp); 83rd in 2020 (5.3ypp, but covid year). Things have definitely improved offensively.
 

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I don't care if he stays or goes. I hope the best for him and if that's another opportunity then go for it. But, none of this BS where he leaves before the season is over. We're in the playoffs and he better be a part of it.
 

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I liked the AK hire....I also said I hope he is able to have complete control of the offensive play calling. Weird he would be rolling after 1 year and to WVA for what?$ Some more money and out the door in 2-3 years if he can't get them 8 wins and a bowl game consistently enough. He wont be able to recruit there, as he doesn't have a household name nor massive inroads to the pipeline.

I would prefer him to stay as continuity is imperative.

But look on the bright side we already have an OC :ROFLMAO:
 

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He didn’t, I didn’t say he did, I just knew it’s a controversial opinion, so I was preempting a pile on.
Okay and I will say in jest that this reminds me of my grandmother telling me not to holler before you're hurt.
 

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What some other coordinators give lip service to, Andy actually puts into practice for real in tangible ways. You often hear OC's state how they want to have a system that is tailored to their roster's best strengths, and yet on the field you still see pigeon-holing of various players to match what the coordinator really wants to do. I don't think tight end was a huge part of his offense at KU, but look what Andy has done with Warren. Look what he has done with our athletic big men in pre-snap motion. When he wants a more traditional mobile QB, he has packages for Pribula—he does not force Allar into that mold even with Drew utilizing additional mobility on his own this year. Not every OC out there is nearly as creative with finding new ways for the best attributes of your players to be maximized. All that window dressing is designed for one simple idea: getting the most out of your players while giving the defense a lot to think about. Andy is very talented.
Yeah I think AK has done a great job of utilizing the talent that he has on a team which has some issues especially at WR.
 

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It is interesting that Joel Klatt on his latest podcast did reference the fact that PSU has been relying too much on Tyler Warren to make up for the serious lack of production from the WR's and RB's. It works he said against teams with mediocre defenses, but now with the playoffs, it won't be easy trying to use Warren all the time because defensive coordinators will scheme coverages to confuse Allar into thinking that Warren is an option, but in reality, is going to get blanket coverage all the time.
Apparently NFL defensive coordinators weren’t smart enough to scheme to stop Kelce last year, but college coordinators can do it….got it. Are these the same coordinators that couldn’t stop Marvin Harrison last year or the year before?
 

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I liked the AK hire....I also said I hope he is able to have complete control of the offensive play calling. Weird he would be rolling after 1 year and to WVA for what?$ Some more money and out the door in 2-3 years if he can't get them 8 wins and a bowl game consistently enough. He wont be able to recruit there, as he doesn't have a household name nor massive inroads to the pipeline.

I would prefer him to stay as continuity is imperative.

But look on the bright side we already have an OC :ROFLMAO:
Nobody will be able to recruit very well there.
 
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I know I will be in the minority here, but I honestly haven't been very impressed with his offense.
I think we can do better. Obviously he is better than MY, but, we hardly get a flow going very often before he decides to throw in random trick plays. Again, he was an upgrade, and maybe he would be better with a QB like Pribula, but, not Allar.
I'd think you are..
 
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I think I recall hearing that JF asks for a 2 year commitment from coordinators, but only for lateral moves. He doesn't require it for taking a FBS HC jobs.
 

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Get the Brinks truck in really quick like and so Penn State can L(him)TFI
Does making the B1G CCG and the playoffs work to PSU’s advantage with keeping teams from talking to Coach K and therefore him staying?
 

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Does making the B1G CCG and the playoffs work to PSU’s advantage with keeping teams from talking to Coach K and therefore him staying?
Good question.
I would like to think Coach K would not take time off from SMU prep to be flying here and there talking about HC jobs.
Im just tired of the revolving door with coordinators.
 
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Does making the B1G CCG and the playoffs work to PSU’s advantage with keeping teams from talking to Coach K and therefore him staying?
My son just texted me saying WVU has offered the job.
Please know I am wearing my Blue and White glasses as I type this. And, being honest, I know nothing about the history of WVU football.
That said, can he win there? By win, I mean getting into the top 15 ranking. Having the "committee" look at you as a possible playoff team. I did look up their record in the past 10 years. Averaged 7 wins a season (including bowl games) and had a .568 winning percentage for regular season. They ain't overflowing with 4 star football players is my guess.
If I am Coach K's agent (I'm a retired 6th grade math teacher), I would suggest he stay at Penn State a year or two more, really solidify himself in the coaching world and then entertain calls from the bigger names.
And, now my son sends me the dreaded flight log showing State College Regional to Morgantown Muni last night at 9:00.
All I want for Christmas is lack of coordinator drama!!
 
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WVU has some appeal and some issues. Facilities are not up to par and the conference alignment issues are not the best. In state recruiting is almost non-existent and the ticket sales and pricing are not optimized for having the school in position to commit $20 million per year for revenue sharing. No real media market.

They have a few rich donors (Ken Kendrick - owner of Arizona Diamondbacks) and Mylan Pushkar left them a lot of money. They have a supportive fan base and dominate the state in coverage and support (albeit at only 1.8 million in population).

Bottom line, the job at WVU involves working at a school that is Top 50, but likely in that 35 to 50 range. If a coach feels there is enough support and potential to parlay a few years there into a Big Ten or SEC job, It's certainly a good option for an OC.
 
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If I am Coach K's agent (I'm a retired 6th grade math teacher), I would suggest he stay at Penn State a year or two more, really solidify himself in the coaching world and then entertain calls from the bigger names.
I'm telling him to take the job and the life changing money (and financial security for many years). There are no guarantees that an opportunity like this will come around again. It's not like it's moving to a FCS school or a really low level FBS school...it should be pretty much a no-brainer.
 

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Sounds like the sticking point was he wanted to ride out the season with PSU and WVU wanted him there immediately and not miss the portal window to turn around WVU quickly. He balked and said no he was committed to PSU for the entire season and walked away
Gotta like that. Shows good character.
 

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I don’t think K was actually interested in the WVU job, but Franklin thought it was important to practice interview for a better HC job after next season.

JoePa did this regularly with many of his deserving assistants.
 
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How does his interview process even start without the disclaimer up front... "If we offer you the job you'd have to start right away... is that going to be a problem"?
 

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How does his interview process even start without the disclaimer up front... "If we offer you the job you'd have to start right away... is that going to be a problem"?
The only thing I can think of is that Coach K was not high on their list kind of a back up option. WVU had their sights set on a certain few. Coach K came in and really impressed them during the interview. Suddenly he starts rising to the top WVU basically lets him know they want him and he needs to start immediately and Coach K says he has committed to PSU for the entire season whenever that ends. WVU says we want you now and don't want to lose out on good players in the transfer portal while your coaching PSU. WVU says you need to make a choice now, Coach K walks saying I committed to PSU for the entire year.