Any thoughts on why Allar was so “off” all day?

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I felt like there were two things. First, the pressure of expectations. Before yesterday, there were no expectations beyond just win. It was the second away game with him as a starter and fourth overall and an away game. He'll need to figure out how not to expect and just play.

Second, we are missing a secondary WR. Wallace didn't play. Clifford has trouble separating. McClain...did he even play? Cephas had three catches but many targets where they were not on the same page. Throwing to the TEs (he did miss Theo a bit in the endzone) has been fine. RBs has been fine. Primary WR has been fine. Secondary and tertiary wide receiver, not so much.
 

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If anything, I would point to WR room not living up to their hype. Hopefully that improves with time and new coach. Time will tell. Early indicators are not promising.

Hopefully the break gives the entire team some time to focus on the little things and recover their bodies for the remainder of the season.
 

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I’m assuming your looking forward to when we play Michigan in 2024. This year is a loss based on one outcome today and I’m already thinking “how can we possibly beat Michigan in 2024”. Also was curious if we can even compete with Marshall Sept 5 2026 after what I saw today?? And don’t even get me started when it comes to Syracuse in 2027!! Why do I bother watching the current games when I know we can’t compete with anyone else because we struggled and only won 41-13 against Northwestern. I mean, I’m already worried about how our O-line is gonna hold up against Ball St in 2028!!
Exactly.
 

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Allar was off a little in the first half, thought he was better in the second half.

Maybe some posters here have unrealistic expectations of him. I think he’s had outstanding poise and pocket awareness with no panic attacks. He’s missed a couple open receivers (via not seeing the receiver or overthrowing) but no interceptions in FIVE games? And only a couple of “bad” or “dangerous” throws! Pretty damn impressive!!!!!

I wish he’d keep the ball 4-5 times a game to help keep the defenses honest.

AND

I wish Pribula got a series or two in the first half of games just to make defenses uncomfortable and maybe catch them off guard or confused. Come out in a hurry-up, five wideout formation and let him go!
 

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He was similar vs Illinois. Is it a road game thing?
It comes down to one of three things - 1- He's young and still figuring some things out. 2- Off days on the road with 11:00AM kicks against a no buzz opponent or 3 - He's not that great. We will find out soon enough.
 

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Outside of #1, I seldom see our WRs bail out Allar by making contested or non-routine catches. Any good QB needs WR to make plays too. Watch the Detroit-KC opener this year to see how human Mahomes looked when his WRs were pedestrian and dropped catchable balls.

It’s not just a Penn State problem. College football in general seems to be in a down year for receivers.
 

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Poor offensive line play, imprecise routes run by receivers, and the inability to run the ball effectively which keeps the offense off schedule are some of the likely culprits.
Yeah and unimaginative play calling by insisting on running between the tackles against defenses playing the run on first and second down.
 
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Allar was off a little in the first half, thought he was better in the second half.

Maybe some posters here have unrealistic expectations of him. I think he’s had outstanding poise and pocket awareness with no panic attacks. He’s missed a couple open receivers (via not seeing the receiver or overthrowing) but no interceptions in FIVE games? And only a couple of “bad” or “dangerous” throws! Pretty damn impressive!!!!!

I wish he’d keep the ball 4-5 times a game to help keep the defenses honest.

AND

I wish Pribula got a series or two in the first half of games just to make defenses uncomfortable and maybe catch them off guard or confused. Come out in a hurry-up, five wideout formation and let him go!
I think you hit it with a few runs. DEF is cheating and he can get 10-15 yds just doing that. we have seen that,

missing Wallace appears to be hurting and not getting a reliable #3 not helping. I really thought Evans would be the guy but he has hardly played. McClain looked promising then relegated down. Cephas has not lived up to his portal value. Clifford steady and reliable. Sanders doing great job fielding punts but does not scare anyone. Meiga relegated to ST. Driver must need development.
 
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Unless you're Ohio State! Ironically, they're having a down year at QB.

They've been the outlier for a few years. Alabama had a really nice run of having multiple top end receivers as well.

The fact that Ohio State didn't make a run at Sam Hartman honestly left me kind of baffled.
 

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They've been the outlier for a few years. Alabama had a really nice run of having multiple top end receivers as well.

The fact that Ohio State didn't make a run at Sam Hartman honestly left me kind of baffled.
Was the kid who recommitted for Georgia still an OSU commit at the time Hartman was making his decision?
 

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Poor offensive line play, imprecise routes run by receivers, and the inability to run the ball effectively which keeps the offense off schedule are some of the likely culprits.
I know some will get very upset with what I am about to say but.....

Don't these things ultimately come down to coaching and having your offensive line, receivers, etc prepared for the opponent? Doesn't having your team prepared and motivated for an away game fall on coaching and the processes you implement for travel and preparation? I am sure there is an entire support staff for travel and what not but doesn't the coach dictate what goes on? Wouldn't a coach scheme or game plan for teams that will pack defenders in the box for the run and dare you to pass? Isn't it the coaches job to put their players in positions to be successful? Seems to me like sometimes we are trying to brute force plays and will them to work. They are not like Novocain and we can't just give them time to work.

Then again as another poster mentioned, there is a sickness going around campus that could be affecting things. Chest Cold or Covid or whatever, I see it and hear it around campus and town.

We will never know the true real reasons and can ever only speculate. Maybe Drew is not coachable or just can't see the field like the coaches want. Maybe the oLine is really just not that good at sustaining blocks long enough to develop the play. Maybe the receivers just aren't fast enough to create separation. Who knows?
 

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I know some will get very upset with what I am about to say but.....

Don't these things ultimately come down to coaching and having your offensive line, receivers, etc prepared for the opponent? Doesn't having your team prepared and motivated for an away game fall on coaching and the processes you implement for travel and preparation? I am sure there is an entire support staff for travel and what not but doesn't the coach dictate what goes on? Wouldn't a coach scheme or game plan for teams that will pack defenders in the box for the run and dare you to pass? Isn't it the coaches job to put their players in positions to be successful? Seems to me like sometimes we are trying to brute force plays and will them to work. They are not like Novocain and we can't just give them time to work.

Then again as another poster mentioned, there is a sickness going around campus that could be affecting things. Chest Cold or Covid or whatever, I see it and hear it around campus and town.

We will never know the true real reasons and can ever only speculate. Maybe Drew is not coachable or just can't see the field like the coaches want. Maybe the oLine is really just not that good at sustaining blocks long enough to develop the play. Maybe the receivers just aren't fast enough to create separation. Who knows?
Who knows?

we will soon enough:)
 

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Did the NCAA reduce games to 30 minutes?
Why do MLB teams celebrate walk off wins...I mean it means they were likey behind for 9 innings.
Well then, you agree that Ohio State thoroughly whipped us, beat us into a pulp when we played them last year because they won by 2 TDs.
 

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I know some will get very upset with what I am about to say but.....

Don't these things ultimately come down to coaching and having your offensive line, receivers, etc prepared for the opponent? Doesn't having your team prepared and motivated for an away game fall on coaching and the processes you implement for travel and preparation? I am sure there is an entire support staff for travel and what not but doesn't the coach dictate what goes on? Wouldn't a coach scheme or game plan for teams that will pack defenders in the box for the run and dare you to pass? Isn't it the coaches job to put their players in positions to be successful? Seems to me like sometimes we are trying to brute force plays and will them to work. They are not like Novocain and we can't just give them time to work.

Then again as another poster mentioned, there is a sickness going around campus that could be affecting things. Chest Cold or Covid or whatever, I see it and hear it around campus and town.

We will never know the true real reasons and can ever only speculate. Maybe Drew is not coachable or just can't see the field like the coaches want. Maybe the oLine is really just not that good at sustaining blocks long enough to develop the play. Maybe the receivers just aren't fast enough to create separation. Who knows?
Perhaps PSU lacks enough elite fans?
 

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They've been the outlier for a few years. Alabama had a really nice run of having multiple top end receivers as well.

The fact that Ohio State didn't make a run at Sam Hartman honestly left me kind of baffled.
He plays school.
 

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I felt like there were two things. First, the pressure of expectations. Before yesterday, there were no expectations beyond just win. It was the second away game with him as a starter and fourth overall and an away game. He'll need to figure out how not to expect and just play.

Second, we are missing a secondary WR. Wallace didn't play. Clifford has trouble separating. McClain...did he even play? Cephas had three catches but many targets where they were not on the same page. Throwing to the TEs (he did miss Theo a bit in the endzone) has been fine. RBs has been fine. Primary WR has been fine. Secondary and tertiary wide receiver, not so much.
You said tertiary.
 
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Countrylion

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I know some will get very upset with what I am about to say but.....

Don't these things ultimately come down to coaching and having your offensive line, receivers, etc prepared for the opponent? Doesn't having your team prepared and motivated for an away game fall on coaching and the processes you implement for travel and preparation? I am sure there is an entire support staff for travel and what not but doesn't the coach dictate what goes on? Wouldn't a coach scheme or game plan for teams that will pack defenders in the box for the run and dare you to pass? Isn't it the coaches job to put their players in positions to be successful? Seems to me like sometimes we are trying to brute force plays and will them to work. They are not like Novocain and we can't just give them time to work.

Then again as another poster mentioned, there is a sickness going around campus that could be affecting things. Chest Cold or Covid or whatever, I see it and hear it around campus and town.

We will never know the true real reasons and can ever only speculate. Maybe Drew is not coachable or just can't see the field like the coaches want. Maybe the oLine is really just not that good at sustaining blocks long enough to develop the play. Maybe the receivers just aren't fast enough to create separation. Who knows?
So we did win by 28 and gained twice as many yards as NW so some preparation must have took place.
 
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