Updated AP & Coaches Poll

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USA Today/US LBM Coaches Poll – November 24​

1) Oregon
2) Ohio State

3) Texas
4) Penn State
5) Notre Dame
6) Georgia
7) Miami
8) Tennessee
9) SMU
10) Indiana
11) Boise State
12) Clemson
13) Alabama
14) South Carolina
15) Arizona State
16) Ole Miss
17) Iowa State
18) Tulane
19) Texas A&M
20) BYU
21) UNLV
22) Army
23) Memphis
24) Missouri
25) Illinois

Schools Dropped Out:
No. 18 Colorado; No. 25 Kansas State

Others Receiving Votes: Kansas State 124; Colorado 115; Duke 31; Syracuse 19; Louisville 8; Louisiana 7; Washington State 6; LSU 3; Miami (OH) 1; James Madison 1; Iowa 1; Georgia Tech 1; Baylor 1
 

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Updated Associated Press Poll – November 24​

1) Oregon
2) Ohio State

3) Texas
4) Penn State
5) Notre Dame
6) Georgia
7) Tennessee
8) Miami
9) SMU
10) Indiana
11) Boise State
12) Clemson
13) Alabama
14) Arizona State
15) Ole Miss
16) South Carolina
17) Iowa State
18) Tulane
19) BYU
20) Texas A&M
21) UNLV
22) Illinois
23) Colorado
24) Missouri
25) Army

Others Receiving Votes: Kansas St. 98, Memphis 46, Syracuse 37, Louisville 24, Washington St. 10, Duke 6, Louisiana-Lafayette 5, Florida 4, LSU 2, Georgia Tech 2.
 
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What’s Paul Finebaum got to say?
"The SEC rules and an average SEC team would win the other conferences, The fact that Arkansas lost to Oklahoma State who is winless in the B12 and LSU lost to USC only goes to show that I know absolutely nothing, and am about 5 IQ points from being declared legally retarded."
 

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8-3 Alabama with 2 losses to unranked teams only drops to #13, conspicuously remaining on the bubble for the playoffs (at least, from the AP's perspective, which definitely carries weight).

1. SEC bias is real.

2. It's possible that AP pollsters submit their votes the same way that Academy members vote for the Oscars: "I didn't see any of these films, but I've heard of this one, so I'll put that down for Best Picture."

3. No other team in the country with a 3-loss record (including losses to Vandy and unranked Oklahoma who held them to a solitary field goal) would be ranked #13.

4. It seems obvious what the AP's vision is: hope for someone in the top-12 to lose this week, so they can throw their hands up in the air and claim they have no choice but to slot Bama back into the top-12.

Thoughts?
 
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84lion

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8-3 Alabama with 2 losses to unranked teams only drops to #13, conspicuously remaining on the bubble for the playoffs (at least, from the AP's perspective, which definitely carries weight).

1. SEC bias is real.

2. It's possible that AP pollsters submit their votes the same way that Academy members vote for the Oscars: "I didn't see any of these films, but I've heard of this one, so I'll put that down for Best Picture."

3. No other team in the country with a 3-loss record (including losses to Vandy and unranked Oklahoma who held them to a solitary field goal) would be ranked #13.

4. It seems obvious what the AP's vision is: hope for someone in the top-12 to lose this week, so they can throw their hands up in the air and claim they have no choice but to slot Bama back into the top-12.

Thoughts?
 

PSUFTG

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8-3 Alabama with 2 losses to unranked teams only drops to #13, conspicuously remaining on the bubble for the playoffs (at least, from the AP's perspective, which definitely carries weight).

1. SEC bias is real.

2. It's possible that AP pollsters submit their votes the same way that Academy members vote for the Oscars: "I didn't see any of these films, but I've heard of this one, so I'll put that down for Best Picture."

3. No other team in the country with a 3-loss record (including losses to Vandy and unranked Oklahoma who held them to a solitary field goal) would be ranked #13.

4. It seems obvious what the AP's vision is: hope for someone in the top-12 to lose this week, so they can throw their hands up in the air and claim they have no choice but to slot Bama back into the top-12.

Thoughts?
Who would you put at #13?
 

Erial_Lion

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Who would you put at #13?
Exactly...if people are going to bash rankings, can they show us their work on what should actually happen with the rankings.

Personally, I might be ranking Alabama over Indiana. They have 4 wins that are better than Indiana's best win (Georgia, South Carolina, @LSU, and Missouri), and two of their losses are clearly against teams that are better than the best team Indiana beat (at Tennessee and at Oklahoma, and at Vandy would be close). It's tough to separate these teams when one has two more losses, but played a much, much more difficult schedule.
 

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