At what point does gas prices affect your ability to follow State?...

[Maroon Eagle]

It costs more than twice as much in a lot of European countries, but that's mostly because of taxes which help to curb some use of gas as well as serve as revenue streams for their governments.

And cutting the federal gas tax is an very bad idea... that means no revenue to fund highway maintenance and improvements for three months. I'd rather pay more to better ensure properly maintained roads.

And the reason why we don't drill in the US is simple. It costs less to get oil from Saudi Arabia and other Persian Gulf countries than it does to produce American oil. When it becomes cost-effective, there will be more exploration. Right now, it's not. But it's getting closer to that point.

 

[beachbumdawg]

And the reason why we don't drill in the US is simple. It costs less to get oil from Saudi Arabia and other Persian Gulf countries than it does to produce American oil. When it becomes cost-effective, there will be more exploration. Right now, it's not. But it's getting closer to that point.

And the reason it would cost so much to drill/produce american oil is that the evironmental regulations make about damn near impossible to get permits to do such things....it would take 5-10 years to get a site permitted......the environmental regs near about make anything here in the states hard to justify

Example:
A southeastern utility along with a municipality in florida as well as the DOE had planned to build an IGCC (Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle) that was much more state of the art and environmentally friendly than the one that is currently operating in Tampa, FL.....it was going to be the next generation coal-fired power plant (the US has plenty of Coal Reserves....hmmm another natural resource here in the US).............all three entities spent hundreds of millions of tax-payer/rate-payer dollars on preparing to build this thing.....permits in place....got the go ahead....new Gov of FL Crist....pulls the plug.....saying he wants FL to be the California of the East</p>

 

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

exxon mobil has made 20 BILLION dollars in profits.

Which is excellent for their shareholders, many of whom are in the middle class. The reason they have such enormous profits is because they explored, drilled, and recovered oil back when it wasn't profitable for them to do it. Because of their patience and foresight, we don't have any gasoline shortages like we did back in 1979 (I was around when that happened...it was like the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina every day, and people lining up at the pumps).

I remember back in the mid 1980's, when oil was $11/bbl. Me and about 300,000 of my closest, dearest friends were laid off from the oil patch. Nobody in Congress was whining about us, or complaing about oil prices being too low.

You want cheap gasoline for football games, 1) Build Nuclear Power plants and power them up full (the one at Grand Gulf is only operating at around 2% capacity). 2) If an oil company wants to drill anywhere in the U.S., let them. 3) Build more refineries. 4) End the different grades of fuel.

As for the "environmental crisis"? It's all bogus ********. Carbon Dioxide is NOT a poison, electric cars pollute the environment more than gas cars because coal power plants put out more pollution, and biofuels pollute, are wasteful, and have caused food shortages in the third world. When your pork loins for tailgates cost more at the grocer, thank a Nature Nazi.

P.S. REAAL smart move on MState's part to eliminate the Petroleum Engineering department in 1994.

 

[Indndawg]

ever on this board. And that is pretty bad. Oil future speculators, demand from India and China, and having not built ANY refinerys since Jimmy Carter was president is causing the bad situation.

Dems in Congress refuse to let oil companies drill b/c they're in bed w/environmentalist wackos.

There's the problems right there.
Extreme layoff the liberal kool aid and you'll see things more clear

 

[williecunningham]

So glad you picked such an unbiased source to support your argument. Because Mr Tolman certainly doesn't have a dog in that fight. You should have stuck with this: "I fully realize that an economist can both support and disprove just about any theory out there." Because you were pretty much on target there.

 

[beachbumdawg]

exxon mobil has made 20 BILLION dollars in profits.

As for the "environmental crisis"? It's all bogus ********. Carbon Dioxide is NOT a poison, electric cars pollute the environment more than gas cars because <font color="#CC0000">coal power plants put out more pollution</font>, and biofuels pollute, are wasteful, and have caused food shortages in the third world. When your pork loins for tailgates cost more at the grocer, thank a Nature Nazi.

P.S. REAAL smart move on MState's part to eliminate the Petroleum Engineering department in 1994.

Hell that wont be the case in a few years due to all the environmental controls being installed at the power plants....lets look at what is going on or has been installed in the past
Low NOx Burners
Electrostatic Precipitators (removes particulate matter from flue gas) same with Bag Houses
SCR (Selective Catalytic Reduction system); basically the same thing that is in a car.....removes NOx from the emission stream
SNCR (Selective Non-Catalytic Reduction system) achieves the same as above
FGD (Flue Gas Desulfurization) ie a scrubber because it scrubs the sulfur out of the flue gas
From all the above there is the potential for Blue Plume (type of acid aerosol)....so lime is injected into the flue gas to react and prevent this from happening

Up Next will be Mercury control: use of Activated Carbon plus Bag Houses (if Bag House installed down stream of Precip) other technologies possible too

All that leaves is CO2 really leaving the stack

Coal-Fired Power Plants are the cheapest to build when compared to IGCC and Nuclear
Coal: another US natural resource that environmentalists want to see go away from use

How many US jobs would that eliminate (not all because China is a major importer of Coal and has stopped all exports of Coal....they are building these power plants right and left.....)</p>

 

[saddawg]

Osama Obama should be on good terms with oil producing nations.

 

[seshomoru]

http://www.zimbio.com/Renewable+Energy/articles/326/Study+Examines+Ethanol+Effect+Corn+Prices

I'd also think the president of the RFA would be interested in lowering corn prices, since they have to buy the stuff to make ethanol. I doubt he'd be trying to point the government in the direction of something that won't lower the price of corn.

I'm not trying to say ethanol doesn't have an upward effect on corn prices. I'm trying to say JR's arrogant prick approach with a simple graphable arable land solution is, like everything he ever says, completely off base.

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

Can I be your SECDEF? My first move would be to change the name back to the Department of War.

 

[Temple of the Dawg]

if you want to BTO, but I'm not of the legal age of 35 years old that is required to be President of these United States. Besides, I'm not sure I could handle being the President. Too many limp wristed sissy socialists in power on the other side of the aisle. I'm quite certain that I could not deal with them on a regular basis.