Others on the Ballot will include:
Maribeth Roman Schmidt
Incumbents: Ted Brown, Bill Oldsey, and Barb Doran
The Boarding School Candidates: Ed Smith, Farnaz Farhi, and Christa Hasenkopf.
Ballot set for Penn State Board of Trustees Elections:
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Others on the Ballot will include:
Maribeth Roman Schmidt
Incumbents: Ted Brown, Bill Oldsey, and Barb Doran
The Boarding School Candidates: Ed Smith, Farnaz Farhi, and Christa Hasenkopf.
Will be voting for Barry and Maribeth. Good luck.
I think that if the three eligible candidates were Barry Fenchak, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Jerry Sandusky, and I could only choose one of them, I'd go with the first guy. However, that's about the only circumstance I could imagine where I'd make that choice. What the hell do I know?
The only thing more entertaining than seeing the reaction to Barry pose some uncomfortable questions would be watching the Penn State Forward nimrods get steamrolled or co-opted.
The incumbents have uniformly demonstrated the inability to do anything constructive.
The incumbents have uniformly demonstrated the inability to do anything constructive.
I'll bet you get invited to a lot of parties?
I did attend a party that he threw on the Old Main steps.
If Barry was voted in, how long before the Board would vote him out?
That's all part of the 'free entertainment'
They'd join forces to marginalize him from the start. Robert's Rules of Order gives them all kinds of ways to do so.
David Mullaly, this statement speaks volumes about you and your lack of character. I'm sure glad I didn't vote for you when you ran for office.
I had no intention of voting in this Trustees election. Some of the faces may change but nothing else does. Barry's addition to the ballot made me reconsider. I will vote for him alone. Do I think he will make a difference? No. But I do think he can begin to create an environment where change is possible.
I expect "he" would be about the last person who could be marginalized. The vast majority on the Board marginalize themselves, with precious few exceptions.
Knowing "Robert's Rules of Order" is only the small sliver of it, of course - and it really isn't that significant, but I expect you are not all that familiar with the applicabilities in this case.
In any event, with the way the Board operates, the most important impacts won't come in formal Board meetings anyway - though that is a very important part, when done properly.
No one can muzzle or restrict the open questioning, the presentation of alternatives, or the discussion of issues - all of which are vital to both accountability and proper responsible governance - not unless the "muzzle-ee" sanctions it him/herself.
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Valid points, well-stated.
I will just add:
Who would represent Mark Dambly's (and the rest of that crowd) worst wake-up-in-a-cold-sweat nightmare as a potential member of the Board? Is that even a competition?
Whomever that is, how could anyone NOT want to see that person on the Board?
He'd have to maintain his composure to have any meaningful success.I expect "he"would be about the last person who could be marginalized. The vast majority on the Board marginalize themselves, with precious few exceptions.
Knowing "Robert's Rules of Order"
In any event, with the way the Board operates, the most important impacts won't come in formal Board meetings anyway - though that is a very important part, when done properly.
No one can muzzle or restrict the open questioning, the presentation of alternatives, or the discussion of issues - all of which are vital to both accountability and proper responsible governance - not unless the "muzzle-ee" sanctions it him/herself.
Perhaps, he's been taking yoga or doing TM since the pandemic. The one time I met him and spoke with him in the Giant supermarket he was quite personable. I wish him well in his endeavor.
Damn, I just love comments like this. You don't know **** about the BOT or me, you presumably voted for other people who I knew would wind up doing nothing--and didn't try to do anything--and yet you're willing to vote for a terribly provocative and belligerent candidate. Frankly, I'm glad you didn't vote for me either.
If that person hadn’t been throwing around “retard” and “**********” for years, I’d be rooting for him…but unfortunately, “Barry” did, and the inability to so flippantly use words like that makes you someone that couldn’t ever get my support.
I understand your reluctance here. Barry can be abrasive. That said, Penn State is in decline and I place the responsibility for that directly on the present, and former, "old guard" members of the Board of Trustees. If the decline is to be reversed we need someone who is willing to stand up to the power elite and I believe Barry can be that man.
It was a homophobic slur that begins with “cock”…so you’re telling me that you didn’t call numerous posters, and our President, a “retard” on many occasions on BWI? And that you never referred to members of the BOT as “c-suckers”? That was all someone making it up?
Barry would ask some good questions, questions that need to be asked. I just don't trust him to act like an adult while doing that.
Do you trust Barb Doran, Bill Oldsey, or Ted Brown to be asking those questions? How long are you going to wait? They've been acting like good adults and what has that gotten us?
The way I see it, it's impossible to lose by voting Barry onto the board. He may be very outspoken but he will at least try to make positive change and we'll be updated regularly. Some here seem to think he won't last on the board, which I firmly disagree with, however if he doesn't what have we lost? The only thing those three above have done is voted "YES" on every opportunity to spend money. You will get something other than straight YES's from Barry.
I expect Marybeth will get a spot since the PS4RS sheep generally vote for their own without much questioning. I'm curious which of the incumbents lose a spot to her since I figure 2 of the 3 of them will also win and IIRC each of them originally ran with support of a PS4RS endorsement.
Excuse my ignorance, as I don't get caught up in all this BOT drama ... so PSUFTG is this Barry Fenchak guy?
Barb, Bill, and Ted are out. They have done nothing except pop their heads out of the hole every three years to wave some pom-poms so they can hold onto their precious seats that are serving them well personally. No Maribeth - she had PS4RS for years and accomplished zero.
Barry has been acting like an adult and 2022 is a year when a lot of cracks are showing and getting bigger everywhere. Now is the time for him to start asking questions out loud. That's all I want.
I'm waiting for them to change the rules so that you have to elect at least one young alum in the name of DEIR.
Robert's Rules of Order were mentioned here--but don't forget that Alumni Council eliminated their use a few years back....
Robert's Rules of Order were mentioned here--but don't forget that Alumni Council eliminated their use a few years back....
The move you are actually most likely to see, or at least attempted, is the elimination of any elected positions to the Board at all.
"Barry has been acting like an adult."
What a spectacularly inaccurate sentence. Do you mean since he started to run for the BOT? Of course, the choices are terrible. You can vote--again--for the three earnest statues, or the feckless Ms. Schmidt, or somebody whose posts here often drive one to take a hot soapy shower after reading them. Or some other stooges. As a great comedian used to say, "What a revoltin' development this is."
What a spectacularly inaccurate sentence. Do you mean since he started to run for the BOT? Of course, the choices are terrible. You can vote--again--for the three earnest statues, or the feckless Ms. Schmidt, or somebody whose posts here often drive one to take a hot soapy shower after reading them. Or some other stooges. As a great comedian used to say, "What a revoltin' development this is."
All I can say is I'm tired of son of a ***** ******** teeming with corruption and incompetence while having a smile being paraded around as the answer, all while screwing over anyone they can just so they can get a piece of the graft. Barry may be a son of a ***** *******, but he'll be my son of a ***** ******* going up against them and actually trying to fix real problems. Keep your kind words, the problems are so dire we're well past those. Action, real action, is what really matters.
It would be nice if the people who are so offended would direct just a fraction of those "I am so offended"-generated energies towards dealing with improving the situation on the Board. If they are alumni, they could jump into the fray themselves - if they are not, they could identify, recruit, and support those who are. Or take on any number of other tasks where their energies could be put to productive use - there are plenty of opportunities wanting for a bit of energetic support, whether one has a little or a lot to give.
That would be great, and much appreciated by all.
Everyone has the right to critique, no doubt. I'm all for that, personally. Hopefully those critiques morph into actions.
That would be great, and much appreciated by all.
Everyone has the right to critique, no doubt. I'm all for that, personally. Hopefully those critiques morph into actions.
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David Mullaly, why don't you just focus on Vikings and let the adults have a conversation.
I just looked over the current trustee set up , Has that changed form the time of the scandal ? It sure looks like it
If you and Valley Forge think that Barry acts like an "adult," then your understanding of the meaning of that word is quite different than mine. Barry's promoting himself on this thread, and I think other people are entitled to their opposition.
Yes it has. For the worse, far worse.
And it is likely to get even "more worse", unless more people get involved.
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