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I lived through the Brad Scott era and this is exactly what the Scott years looked like. He could recruit a couple of names but he couldn't develop any of of his players, big names or otherwise. His assistants were poor at best. Beamer is completely over his head. He was out coached every meaningful game this year, even the JSU game. For example, anyone who played JV ball knows one way to slow down an aggressive D is with quick slants. I don't think I saw one slant this entire year. Our OL never improved. Neither did our WRs.

Beamer is definitely not the answer. He's a modern day Brad Scott. It's noteworthy that Scott coached under Dixon, and Beamer is coaching under Tanner. 2 of the most incompetent and grotesquely over paid coaches who worked under our worst ADs. Anyone who continues to support this is a fool.
 
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He has a D2 RB LB, his best OL was a Yale transfer he's recruited higher than spurrier the last 2 years including this one .... I mean can we give him any time once so ever..... where does all this entitlement come from in 100 years of gamecock football we average a .500 record.
 
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Just wanted to get the gang together in one thread. Same ppl who blame the refs and injuries are the same ppl who attack other posters. They’re also the same ppl who defend ****** coaching.

Beamer won’t be here January 2026. Because we have the worst BOT in America, I can only pray the same is true for Tanner.
 
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Beamer is Dabo without the talent with a tougher schedule. He knows the right things to say and how to be a cheerleader and how to make the fans like him but he really isn't a big time head coach. He'll get a couple more years and will probably get to a bowl in each of them but the team won't be much better than it is now.

Until Carolina lets go of the delusion that the head coaching job in Columbia is appealing to successful experienced head coaches, we will continue to hire "B" level, at best, coaches. The obvious solution, that few gamecock fans are willing to admit, is to hire an up and coming G5 head coach with a history of winning who wants a stepping stone P5 job to build a resume for a top level P5 job. The hiring of Holtz and Spurrier reeked of desperation and the way their careers ended cemented the public's opinion that the Carolina job is a career killer. Carolina needs a young coach with the energy and drive to build a program.
 
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Anon1683916639 said:
Beamer is Dabo without the talent with a tougher schedule. He knows the right things to say and how to be a cheerleader and how to make the fans like him but he really isn't a big time head coach. He'll get a couple more years and will probably get to a bowl in each of them but the team won't be much better than it is now.

Until Carolina lets go of the delusion that the head coaching job in Columbia is appealing to successful experienced head coaches, we will continue to hire "B" level, at best, coaches. The obvious solution, that few gamecock fans are willing to admit, is to hire an up and coming G5 head coach with a history of winning who wants a stepping stone P5 job to build a resume for a top level P5 job. The hiring of Holtz and Spurrier reeked of desperation and the way their careers ended cemented the public's opinion that the Carolina job is a career killer. Carolina needs a young coach with the energy and drive to build a program.
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Sounds like Beamer
 
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Nowhere close to Brad Scott. Scott took a bowl team and made it into the worst program in Division I-A. Literally the worst. No one will ever come close to Scott’s incompetence (though his son sure tried).
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Hang around 2 more years. I distinctly recall Scott recruiting the #1 OL class one year too. Beamer came in with even less experience than Scott.
 
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Anon1683916639 said:
Beamer is Dabo without the talent with a tougher schedule. He knows the right things to say and how to be a cheerleader and how to make the fans like him but he really isn't a big time head coach. He'll get a couple more years and will probably get to a bowl in each of them but the team won't be much better than it is now.

Until Carolina lets go of the delusion that the head coaching job in Columbia is appealing to successful experienced head coaches, we will continue to hire "B" level, at best, coaches. The obvious solution, that few gamecock fans are willing to admit, is to hire an up and coming G5 head coach with a history of winning who wants a stepping stone P5 job to build a resume for a top level P5 job. The hiring of Holtz and Spurrier reeked of desperation and the way their careers ended cemented the public's opinion that the Carolina job is a career killer. Carolina needs a young coach with the energy and drive to build a program.
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I agree with most of what you said, but I can't say that Beamer is just Dabo with less talent, then say he isn't a big time coach.

With his titles, Dabo is a big time coach.

The way I think of it is that Beamer may be in the mold of Dabo, but he's a cheap copy.
 
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Atlanta_Cock said:
I lived through the Brad Scott era and this is exactly what the Scott years looked like. He could recruit a couple of names but he couldn't develop any of of his players, big names or otherwise. His assistants were poor at best. Beamer is completely over his head. He was out coached every meaningful game this year, even the JSU game. For example, anyone who played JV ball knows one way to slow down an aggressive D is with quick slants. I don't think I saw one slant this entire year. Our OL never improved. Neither did our WRs.

Beamer is definitely not the answer. He's a modern day Brad Scott. It's noteworthy that Scott coached under Dixon, and Beamer is coaching under Tanner. 2 of the most incompetent and grotesquely over paid coaches who worked under our worst ADs. Anyone who continues to support this is a fool.
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Problem is deeper - it is Ray and his hires.
 
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When Mike McGee was hired as AD, it was said about him that he "hires well and fires well". I cannot honestly say that Beamer "hires well". Does he "fire well" ? I don't know. Here is what I think I know: this offseason will determine whether Beamer gets the opportunity to head into a 5th season as USC HC.
 
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Anon1683916639 said:
Beamer is Dabo without the talent with a tougher schedule. He knows the right things to say and how to be a cheerleader and how to make the fans like him but he really isn't a big time head coach. He'll get a couple more years and will probably get to a bowl in each of them but the team won't be much better than it is now.

Until Carolina lets go of the delusion that the head coaching job in Columbia is appealing to successful experienced head coaches, we will continue to hire "B" level, at best, coaches. The obvious solution, that few gamecock fans are willing to admit, is to hire an up and coming G5 head coach with a history of winning who wants a stepping stone P5 job to build a resume for a top level P5 job. The hiring of Holtz and Spurrier reeked of desperation and the way their careers ended cemented the public's opinion that the Carolina job is a career killer. Carolina needs a young coach with the energy and drive to build a program.
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I am not sure I agree with the your first three words for a lot of reasons.
 
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Prestonyte said:
''Carolina needs a young coach with the energy and drive to build a program.''
Winning history was not part of the criteria.
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I thought you were referring to the earlier part of the post where he did mention a winning history.

The obvious solution, that few gamecock fans are willing to admit, is to hire an up and coming G5 head coach with a history of winning who wants a stepping stone P5 job to build a resume for a top level P5 job
 
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Lurker123 said:
I agree with most of what you said, but I can't say that Beamer is just Dabo with less talent, then say he isn't a big time coach.

With his titles, Dabo is a big time coach.

The way I think of it is that Beamer may be in the mold of Dabo, but he's a cheap copy.
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This. Four national championship appearances two titles and a sure hall of famer.
 
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Atlanta_Cock said:
I lived through the Brad Scott era and this is exactly what the Scott years looked like. He could recruit a couple of names but he couldn't develop any of of his players, big names or otherwise. His assistants were poor at best. Beamer is completely over his head. He was out coached every meaningful game this year, even the JSU game. For example, anyone who played JV ball knows one way to slow down an aggressive D is with quick slants. I don't think I saw one slant this entire year. Our OL never improved. Neither did our WRs.

Beamer is definitely not the answer. He's a modern day Brad Scott. It's noteworthy that Scott coached under Dixon, and Beamer is coaching under Tanner. 2 of the most incompetent and grotesquely over paid coaches who worked under our worst ADs. Anyone who continues to support this is a fool.
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The AD comment I agree with you. Brad Scott I agree. Beamer is truly inexperienced, but I think the jury is still out on Beamer.

Scott record (23 -32-1) 5 Year tenure only took us to that 1 Bowl game.
Scott won our first bowl game, which I was grateful for. Carquest Vs West Virginia
We had the 4th toughest schedule in the Country. Some may say the toughest.

We had all those OL injuries, WR injuries.

CSB ( record 20 -18) is going to need more time.he took us to 2 Bowls Duke's Mayo Bowl 🏆 win and Gator Bowl Notre Dame

To be fair CSB should at least get 2 more years or longer 🤔

Muschump left CSB a mess to clean up.

I was there during King Dixon , Sparky Woods so you have no argument from me on the ADs
Scott only took us to that 1 Bowl game.
 
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Brad Scott was bad on another level. I was a kid during that era. The entire fan base just stopped caring as we all expected to lose.

Beamer should be in the hot seat though. If we have a similar W/L record by mid season of 2024, I’d fire him if I were a/d.
 
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Scott's loyalty to Wally Burnham killed him. They actually were on to something when John Reaves came in and added some of the fun-n-gun components to the fast break offense they were already running made that offense take off on Taneyhill's senior year. Had they stayed with it with Anthony Wright taking over as qb1 with his mobility and ability to make the throws required it could've turned into the kind of offenses you see in college football now. Instead Scott caves into ole Wally's whining about he needs to slow his offenses down and run more because the defense is getting too tired(would love to know how Spurrier would've reacted to being told this by his DC). Two years later Reaves resigns in frustration over his role in the offensive game planning being diminished. Scott immaturly chooses friendship over what's best for the program at the time(most head coaches would've taken the opportunity to get rid of Burnham after he said that). The same immaturity Scott showed with how he exited the program.
 
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Anon1683916639 said:
Beamer is Dabo without the talent with a tougher schedule. He knows the right things to say and how to be a cheerleader and how to make the fans like him but he really isn't a big time head coach. He'll get a couple more years and will probably get to a bowl in each of them but the team won't be much better than it is now.

Until Carolina lets go of the delusion that the head coaching job in Columbia is appealing to successful experienced head coaches, we will continue to hire "B" level, at best, coaches. The obvious solution, that few gamecock fans are willing to admit, is to hire an up and coming G5 head coach with a history of winning who wants a stepping stone P5 job to build a resume for a top level P5 job. The hiring of Holtz and Spurrier reeked of desperation and the way their careers ended cemented the public's opinion that the Carolina job is a career killer. Carolina needs a young coach with the energy and drive to build a program.
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I know!! We should hire a guys like, maybe, TOM HERMAN!! I'm sure that'll be the answer!! lulz
 
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And next year we will blame the schedule
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Muschamp also had a grand total of 2 ranked wins in 5 years. All Muschamp did was beat bad teams, let UK come in and run over him, and gets demolished by the good teams he played.
 
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Atlanta_Cock said:
I lived through the Brad Scott era and this is exactly what the Scott years looked like. He could recruit a couple of names but he couldn't develop any of of his players, big names or otherwise. His assistants were poor at best. Beamer is completely over his head. He was out coached every meaningful game this year, even the JSU game. For example, anyone who played JV ball knows one way to slow down an aggressive D is with quick slants. I don't think I saw one slant this entire year. Our OL never improved. Neither did our WRs.

Beamer is definitely not the answer. He's a modern day Brad Scott. It's noteworthy that Scott coached under Dixon, and Beamer is coaching under Tanner. 2 of the most incompetent and grotesquely over paid coaches who worked under our worst ADs. Anyone who continues to support this is a fool.
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Shane is a better person than Brad. But he is equally as $hittay a coach
 
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How many seasons did it take Spurrier to build a program that won 10+ games a season? What was his overall and conference record in his first three seasons at USC? And what has Beamer's overall and conference record in his first three seasons been like in comparison?
 
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Nobody knows how good of people these coaches are. We are all basing it off public perception or like-ability. There are lots of people the populous eat up that are dipshits and a lot of people who seem stern and ****** are honest and good as anyone else.
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Shane is a better person than Brad. But he is equally as $hittay a coach
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Nobody knows how good of people these coaches are. We are all basing it off public perception or like-ability. There are lots of people the populous eat up that are dipshits and a lot of people who seem stern and ****** and not popular are very good people even when the doors close.
 
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Gamecock72 said:
How many seasons did it take Spurrier to build a program that won 10+ games a season? What was his overall and conference record in his first three seasons at USC? And what has Beamer's overall and conference record in his first three seasons been like in comparison?
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Spurrier record 1st 3 years USC ( 21- 16 ) SEC (11-13)
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South Carolina Gamecocks football under Steve Spurrier - Wikipedia

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Beamer 20 -18 SEC Record (10-14)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Beamer
 
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I lived through the Brad Scott era and this is exactly what the Scott years looked like. He could recruit a couple of names but he couldn't develop any of of his players, big names or otherwise. His assistants were poor at best. Beamer is completely over his head. He was out coached every meaningful game this year, even the JSU game. For example, anyone who played JV ball knows one way to slow down an aggressive D is with quick slants. I don't think I saw one slant this entire year. Our OL never improved. Neither did our WRs.

Beamer is definitely not the answer. He's a modern day Brad Scott. It's noteworthy that Scott coached under Dixon, and Beamer is coaching under Tanner. 2 of the most incompetent and grotesquely over paid coaches who worked under our worst ADs. Anyone who continues to support this is a fool.
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First I just wanna say you’re an idiot. The problem is fans like yourself. You want a coach to come in and do miracles overnight. You act as if top “name brand” coaches are knocking down the door to coach here. Please tell me know many years it took Spurrier to get us on the map. Let’s go ahead and use your logic and fire another coach, lose more recruits, and see how many more years it sets the program back. I’ll hang up now.
 
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I think Beamer knows a lot of what the job requires, and he's really good at the hand shaking, enthusiasm and kissing babies part. I just wish he would hire the right Coordinators. Coordinators are everything unless you're named Nick Saban. He creates coordinators and gives them life. I'm on board with Beamer because I have to be...but I was upset when he was hired because I thought the direction we would be taking is a direction path to just over .500. We are there. Our hiring gurus HAVE TO go with offensive guy. I personally hate this....but the game's rules favor and so much else is based off of what you can do on the offensive side of the ball the last decade... so you have to go after an offensive innovator. I don't hate Loggains - he's fine. It's just not what is goin to work here at USC given who surrounds us in conference and having an arch rival in a smaller state with a big program as well.
Beamer wants to do a NFL oriented offense. This is his old roots from his dad's outlook. That literally worked last century. It just doesn't work anymore unless you have THE BEST players doing said NFL-oriented offense. Hell Saban even got away from it due to necessity. Coming from Georgia...he ought to know we don't have what they have personnel wise. Coming from OU...he should know you can get chicken salad out of something else even IF you don't have all the dudes in your locker room.

I still stick by my statement from a couple years ago: J. Chadwell was and still could be the way to go.... OR hire the best Air Raid (or Kendal Briles) Coordinator possible and take your shots.
 
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