Beaver Stadium reconstruction thread

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It looks like the font used by West Shore for their Logo. It may be a contractual thing.
It's not the font, it's the white backing. Looks like amateur hour. Also how long are we going to keep leaning into that passing quote made by Herbie on a broadcast? Was that 10 years ago? It's fine if they want to think it but plastering it on the side of the stadium?
 
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Connorpozlee

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I'd feel safer on something I built with my erector set when I was a kid.View attachment 875665
When I was a kid, maybe 7 or 8 years old, I remember my mother asking me what I want for Christmas. Keep in mind that my mother was a serious woman whom I can’t ever really recall telling a joke or saying more than a couple of funny things in her life (though, she did enjoy sitcoms and Letterman and Carson). Anyway, I respond that I want an erection set for Christmas. She immediately responded to me in a stone cold face, “You already have one of those, you mean an erector set.” It probably wasn’t until 10 years later that I made sense of that interaction. Just an absolutely perfect line.
 

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It's not the font, it's the white backing. Looks like amateur hour. Also how long are we going to keep leaning into that passing quote made by Herbie on a broadcast? Was that 10 years ago? It's fine if they want to think it but plastering it on the side of the stadium?

Better than ‘Welcome to Death Valley’ or ‘Home of the 12th Man’ like multiple places use….
 

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putting a damn net up doesn't inspire confidence
Then maybe you should actually do some reading/research. Maybe what you find will inspire the confidence you doubt but clearly seek. I’ll give you a head start: Pat Kraft explicitly stated that the new, temporary structures have gone through multiple structural tests and inspections. And, the company with whom they have contracted is a specialist in such temporary structures and has done this tape of work at countless venues across the country. Now, if you just want to continue to be an a$$, well, that’s probably just who you are in life.
 

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i like beer GIF
 

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Better than ‘Welcome to Death Valley’ or ‘Home of the 12th Man’ like multiple places use….
Those quotes seem less cheesy to me, because they are actually real nicknames used nationally. 12th man is A&M. Death Valley is LSU and Clemson. Very few fans are going to say "oh, Penn State!" when you ask who is the best student section in the country, "by far!" :ROFLMAO:

They should just put up a Happy Valley sign or something.
 

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Then maybe you should actually do some reading/research. Maybe what you find will inspire the confidence you doubt but clearly seek. I’ll give you a head start: Pat Kraft explicitly stated that the new, temporary structures have gone through multiple structural tests and inspections. And, the company with whom they have contracted is a specialist in such temporary structures and has done this tape of work at countless venues across the country. Now, if you just want to continue to be an a$$, well, that’s probably just who you are in life.
Did anyone think otherwise? Of course engineers designed it to exceed the expected forces with a healthy safety margin, and it had to pass various inspections like any other structure. It still looks sketchy though. I've sat in temporary bleachers that look just like these, but never on a set that was elevated on top of a stadium like this. It just creates an illusion of being unsafe, of course we all know it's good to go. Ironically these are probably safer than the east side, these actually have hand rails every few rows going up the stairs.
 
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BobPSU92

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Those quotes seem less cheesy to me, because they are actually real nicknames used nationally. 12th man is A&M. Death Valley is LSU and Clemson. Very few fans are going to say "oh, Penn State!" when you ask who is the best student section in the country, "by far!" :ROFLMAO:

They should just put up a Happy Valley sign or something.

I‘d like to see “F*CK OFF” on the facade of Beaver Stadium.
 

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A bit of a variation on that (and it's on merchandise, not the actual stadium):


What's with the profanity-laden T-shirts? This seems to be a trend. A couple years ago when I was up for a game, people were selling similarly crude T-shirts in the parking lots. It doesn't reflect well on either the merchandiser or the university. A lot of kids see this stuff. Not cool at all.
 

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What's with the profanity-laden T-shirts? This seems to be a trend. A couple years ago when I was up for a game, people were selling similarly crude T-shirts in the parking lots. It doesn't reflect well on either the merchandiser or the university. A lot of kids see this stuff. Not cool at all.

Are you too young to remember the S#!t on Pitt days?
 

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What's with the profanity-laden T-shirts? This seems to be a trend. A couple years ago when I was up for a game, people were selling similarly crude T-shirts in the parking lots. It doesn't reflect well on either the merchandiser or the university. A lot of kids see this stuff. Not cool at all.
It's Barstool, what do you expect from them. Now we get to experience Portnoy on national television to boot, yay.
 

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Then maybe you should actually do some reading/research. Maybe what you find will inspire the confidence you doubt but clearly seek. I’ll give you a head start: Pat Kraft explicitly stated that the new, temporary structures have gone through multiple structural tests and inspections. And, the company with whom they have contracted is a specialist in such temporary structures and has done this tape of work at countless venues across the country. Now, if you just want to continue to be an a$$, well, that’s probably just who you are in life.
Several years ago, working as a structural consultant for our client Carrier, contracted to design a structure to support cellular antennas installed 20 ft above the roof of an existing water tower. I normally would design a custom antenna support tower structure on top of the water tank using AISC steel shapes such as angles, wide flange beams/columns, channels, so forth. The client wanted a low-cost structure without the necessary fabrication needed for steel shapes. SO........I designed an adjustable structure using steel pipes & connection knuckles as pictured below.

Similar construction as the temporary west side bleachers.

The Client liked it.

As the construction contractor was erecting this very unusual pipe structure the neighboring community and the borough engineer & inspector expressed concern with the structural integrity of the tower and the very unpleasant view. I had to agree on the appearance; it was an ugly SOB.


Monday, .....................

RE: Carrier-Phi-.........Road Water Tank

Ref: Borough Engineer and Borough Inspector...........

Dear .........,......

The purpose of this letter is to substantiate that the antenna support installation proposed for the above listed Carrier project will not cause any undesired structural impact or will not impose magnitudes of stresses and deflections beyond the allowable that would comprise the structural integrity of the existing water tank. (For the complete engineering design and analysis report, contact me at the address below)

The design standards used for the structural analysis is the “Structural Standard for Antenna supporting structures and Antennas”, TIA-222-G. 90 miles per hour basic wind speed was used to determine the wind forces imparted on the proposed antenna frame and resultant reactions on the roof of the water tank.

The structural antenna frame and the impact on the water tank was analyzed using RISA 3-D finite element analysis software.
Presented on the following pages are the results concerning the reactions, deflections and existing water tank plate stresses due to the proposed antenna frames and the antenna supports already existing on the tank. The deflections realized at the maximum reactions were .30" in compressive deflection and .50" in tensile deflection.

The plate stress results conclude the following: the maximum compressive reaction is 4000 lbs, the maximum tension reaction is 2700 lbs. the maximum stress on the water tank plates at point of maximum reactions are 2800 psi in compression and 4600 psi in tension which are considerably less than the allowable plate stress of 24,000 psi.

The stresses presented in this report are the Von Mises stress which is a combination of the principal plate stresses and represent the maximum energy of distortion within an element of the plates. For informational purposes, these stresses can be compared to the tensile yield strength of ductile materials for design.

Concluded from the analysis results is that the survival loading (most extreme) on the antenna frame will not comprise the structural integrity of the water tank.

...................Engineering

Thomas..................P.E.





POST CONSTRUCTION PHOTOS (click on the photo to enlarge)


 
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step.eng69

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Will these seats improve the cell phone service?
🤔maybe some low doses of Radiofrequency radiation! Where are the cellular antennas located in the Beaver?

The study: “Radiofrequency radiation from nearby mobile phone base stations-a case comparison of one low and one high exposure apartment “published in Oncology Letters (Koppel et al 2019) found that the apartment with high RF exposure had outdoor areas as close as 6 meters (about 19.6 feet) from the cell antenna array. In contrast, the low-exposure apartment’s balcony had cell antennas at 40 meters (about 131 feet) away. The researchers also found that both apartments had good mobile phone reception and “Therefore, installation of base stations to risky places cannot be justified using the good reception requirement argument.”
 

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It's not the font, it's the white backing. Looks like amateur hour. Also how long are we going to keep leaning into that passing quote made by Herbie on a broadcast? Was that 10 years ago? It's fine if they want to think it but plastering it on the side of the stadium?
I heard the same statement recently - might have been on the K State - Iowa State broadcast.

I say we roll with it.
 

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It's not the font, it's the white backing. Looks like amateur hour. Also how long are we going to keep leaning into that passing quote made by Herbie on a broadcast? Was that 10 years ago? It's fine if they want to think it but plastering it on the side of the stadium?


Maybe we can put up the Dick Vermeil quote about our offense: "The passing game, right now, sucks."
 

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PR campaign to make people feel safe up there. I have been hearing/seeing a lot of folks concerned with the safety of them.
"I've been hearing". "People are saying". Neither phrase is proof of anything. It's simply rumor mongering.
 

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So, you think the University is going to purposefully risk their liability?
Exactly. Don't know of any licensed inspectors on this board as well as anyone here that has seen them up close. PSU is not going to risk a major lawsuit on purpose, if those stands hold up during the white out game then any program should feel safe putting them up.
 
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