Beaver Stadium reconstruction thread

[psuro]

Exactly. Don't know of any licensed inspectors on this board as well as anyone here that has seen them up close. PSU is not going to risk a major lawsuit on purpose, if those stands hold up during the white out game then any program should feel safe putting them up.

That's just it....the poster indicated "I have been hearing/seeing a lot of folks concerned with the safety of them."

I would venture to guess those folks aren't structural engineers or licensed inspectors either.

(This is where someone will bring up the bridge collapse in South Florida or the Tacoma Bridge collpase as their "evidence" and "all they need to know").

 

[StamfordBridgeVikingatLeftOffensiveTackle]

That's just it....the poster indicated "I have been hearing/seeing a lot of folks concerned with the safety of them."

I would venture to guess those folks aren't structural engineers or licensed inspectors either.

(This is where someone will bring up the bridge collapse in South Florida or the Tacoma Bridge collpase as their "evidence" and "all they need to know").

This is when we need @step.eng69 to give us a "crash" course on simple harmonic motion and resonance.

 

[BobPSU92]

I think Penn State would be fine with people falling from the temporary stands. First, it won’t be the beautiful people sitting up there. Second, any attention is good attention. Win-Win.

 

[BobPSU92]

 

[LMTLION]

Exactly. Don't know of any licensed inspectors on this board as well as anyone here that has seen them up close. PSU is not going to risk a major lawsuit on purpose, if those stands hold up during the white out game then any program should feel safe putting them up.

I think it’s such a ridiculous concern based on fear, not facts. The company that installed the temporary seats routinely does this work, and this installation is considered by them to be typical and not complicated. We have such a population of whiners and alarmists nowadays.

 

[Still in State Colllege]

I believe I sat in temporary stands at the Super Bowl in Tampa. I didn't notice any stability issues.

 

[Bison13]

How wide are the seat spaces, are they the same as normal? If so, should be no issue other than wind and cold.

 

[cramx3]

My guess is that the temp stands are on top of the new structure to hold the stands. As in, they aren't on the ground and I think that's what people find concerning, since the stands are already kind of high up. I would say I trust the folks building this that it's safe, but visually, I can see why some people question it.

 

[MaconNitt]

I'd be more concerned about the metal bleachers being slippery when wet, rather than the structural integrity, but I sit on the east side

 

[NittPicker]

How wide are the seat spaces, are they the same as normal? If so, should be no issue other than wind and cold.

And even the wind will be mitigated by the skirting. That's mainly why it's there.

 

[Midnighter]

 

[step.eng69]

Do you want the capacity before or after one of those things collapses?

Holy $het leinbacker,
Never, ever say collapse, negligible failure maybe.

By the way, I did get my intern feet wet involved with the design team of the Silver Bridge....
Note to self: wasn't born

 

[step.eng69]

This is when we need @step.eng69 to give us a "crash" course on simple harmonic motion and resonance.

Thanks, but, no thank you mn78psu83, this phenomenon is handled nicely in the Cellular Tower Software, my involvement to resolve the frequency is nil.

The only time while working w/cellular carriers IIRC, dampening the frequency to support a 20-ton equipment shelter 10-ft above ground, housing very sensitive cellular equipment.
The shelter was about 6-ft from a half dozen train tracks along the Schuylkill River, anticipating the vibrations would be significant I resolved the problem with increasing the steel weights for dampening.

CLICK ON THE IMAGES TO INLARGE:

 

[CowbellMan]

Imagine how much better it would if that said Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium.

#whatitshouldsay

 

[psuro]

putting a damn net up doesn't inspire confidence

This board needs netting so people can find their ever loving minds after they lose them.

 

[Roar More]

Final capacity has not been announced for the finished product. There are now bleachers where there have never before been seating. Why do I have a sneaky feeling that final capacity will be more than the Big House?

 

[LMTLION]

Final capacity has not been announced for the finished product. There are now bleachers where there have never before been seating. Why do I have a sneaky feeling that final capacity will be more than the Big House?

I thought the final product was going to be a small reduction down to just over 100k due to the conversion of a number of bleacher seats to premium seats. I could be wrong, as the information has been sporadic and secretive to a degree.

 

[Anon1683841811]

Final capacity has not been announced for the finished product. There are now bleachers where there have never before been seating. Why do I have a sneaky feeling that final capacity will be more than the Big House?

The renderings indicate that the west side lower bowl will be all seatbacks, which have not been installed for this upcoming season. The seatbacks will decrease seating.

 

[psuro]

I thought the final product was going to be a small reduction down to just over 100k due to the conversion of a number of bleacher seats to premium seats. I could be wrong, as the information has been sporadic and secretive to a degree.

I saw online a reduction of 360 to the total capacity.

 

[StamfordBridgeVikingatLeftOffensiveTackle]

Thanks, but, no thank you "72mn78" (correct it please) this phenomenon is handled nicely in the Cellular Tower Software, my involvement to resolve the frequency is nil.

The only time while working w/cellular carriers IIRC, dampening the frequency to support a 20-ton equipment shelter 10-ft above ground, housing very sensitive cellular equipment.
The shelter was about 6-ft from a half dozen train tracks along the Schuylkill River, anticipating the vibrations would be significant I resolved the problem with increasing the steel weights for dampening.

CLICK ON THE IMAGES TO INLARGE:

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Hey step! I hope all is well with you. Take care, mn78psu83

 

[NittPicker]

I saw online a reduction of 360 to the total capacity.

Any reduction won't be nearly as much as some think it will be. The lower level chairbacks will obviously reduce capacity there. OTOH, the new west upper level seats will still be bleachers with the new deck being much wider than the old upper west sections. The gaps will be almost entirely closed in. Also, the suite/club level between the upper and lower will hold somewhere around 3,500 people (ballpark). The new construction will be enormous. The renderings show it being higher than the south upper deck and the top of the south deck is WAY up there. I think most of us, including me, will be surprised at just how huge the final product will be.

 

[BobPSU92]

Any reduction won't be nearly as much as some think it will be. The lower level chairbacks will obviously reduce capacity there. OTOH, the new west upper level seats will still be bleachers with the new deck being much wider than the old upper west sections. The gaps will be almost entirely closed in. Also, the suite/club level between the upper and lower will hold somewhere around 3,500 people (ballpark). The new construction will be enormous. The renderings show it being higher than the south upper deck and the top of the south deck is WAY up there. I think most of us, including me, will be surprised at just how huge the final product will be.

“No one goes to Beaver Stadium anymore. It’s too crowded.”

 

[step.eng69]

Hey step! I hope all is well with you. Take care, mn78psu83

Getting older and more grumpy, w/memory loss.
Appreciate asking.......mn78psu83
I've been to two games since the non attendance 2020 season. Still have the season H.C. seats behind the team.

Hot Tip: Should never ask an old person "how ya doing", because, you'll get a litany of aches, pains and bowel issues.

 

[LMTLION]

I saw online a reduction of 360 to the total capacity.

Oh, wow, essentially keeping the same capacity while creating premium seats. That is impressive. With an enclosed design and the same capacity, it will be even louder.

 

[PSUSignore]

Oh, wow, essentially keeping the same capacity while creating premium seats. That is impressive. With an enclosed design and the same capacity, it will be even louder.

The 360 reduction is for the current configuration this fall, not the final configuration for next season.

 

[PSUFTG]

I thought the final product was going to be a small reduction down to just over 100k due to the conversion of a number of bleacher seats to premium seats. I could be wrong, as the information has been sporadic and secretive to a degree.

For sure, no one has a tight figure on final capacity (and that is always a bit of guesswork anyway), the broad strokes would be:

Just about anything in the West Side lower bowl will be some form of "premium" - whether it be suites, "loge", club, or just more expensive.
That, obviously, cuts way down on the number of butts that fit into the same amount of footprint (square footage) - by a lot.
Anyone who was in the west lower bowl, if they want to stay anywhere in that general area - will be paying much more $. And a lot of the "club" type stuff will be a lot closer to the field than the South Endzone clubs (take the good with the bad: good for them, bad for the stadium atmosphere and "noise". The club and suite set just isn't conducive to that - and those seats will spend a lot of time holding air for the payday games)

The plan is then to build "up so high you can hear the angels talking" cheap seats. Thats were the folks relocated from the lower west bowl, and the upper west bowl, will be able to relocate (unless they pony up lots more money or are able to move over to the east side.).
It is going to be significantly higher up away from the field than the current configuration.
I suppose they will try to build more "erect" (like the south upper deck), but math and basic trigonometry determine that they will be quite a distance away - in order to account for the far less efficient square footage usage. Best guess: Look at those upper rows in the south endzone - and how far they are from the field. Take that..... and then lift it another 30 feet? 40 feet? 50 feet? higher if they are going to approximate the current seating capacity of 106,000 ish (which is the goal).

In the meantime, of the other 75% of the stadium:
It will - most of it anyway - be 100 years old, at least, before any thoughts of significant update/replacement can even be contemplated.

 

[lionJC]

I think Penn State would be fine with people falling from the temporary stands. First, it won’t be the beautiful people sitting up there. Second, any attention is good attention. Win-Win.

I'm trying to laugh but holding back

 

[Roar More]

 

[TheBigUglies]

So, you think the University is going to purposefully risk their liability?

I don't think they would. All that I was saying that many in the area who go by the stadium every day were expressing concern over the safety of the temp bleachers. I live in the State College area and am an active member of the community. All the conversations before the videos started coming out was about the temp seating and the perception of not being safe that was starting to take off. Then PSU got in front of it with the PR campaigns to eliminate that perception.

 

[TheBigUglies]

"I've been hearing". "People are saying". Neither phrase is proof of anything. It's simply rumor mongering.

Just was saying that the perception was growing in the surrounding community and PSU got in front of to eliminate or ease the perception.

 

[Lion84]

That's pretty good. I would be fine up there I had classes in Osmond Lab when I was at PSU - damn those stairs were steep. My Daughter is a sophomore at PSU now and told me last year about a class in this crazy building with super steep stairs she was afraid to trip and fall down - Osmond.

 

[step.eng69]

A very interesting look at the temp addition on the west side.

including the Lounge Area w/seating & tables, also the railing seats and concession areas.

Link:
What's the new, temporary seating like in Beaver Stadium? Here's a first look

 

[DaytonRickster]

What's with the profanity-laden T-shirts? This seems to be a trend. A couple years ago when I was up for a game, people were selling similarly crude T-shirts in the parking lots. It doesn't reflect well on either the merchandiser or the university. A lot of kids see this stuff. Not cool at all.

They are classless!

 

[DaytonRickster]

It's Barstool, what do you expect from them. Now we get to experience Portnoy on national television to boot, yay.

Another loser "Michigan man"

 

[BobPSU92]

1st quarter of the nevada game. Anyone fall off the stadium yet?

 

[SleepyLion]

1st quarter of the nevada game. Anyone fall off the stadium yet?

Maybe a few, but they wanted to after the first incomplete pass.

 

[manatree]

I see the southern section of the temporary seats looks empty. Perhaps that section was’t finished?

Never mind. The most recent shot shows that it is now sparsely populated,

 

[SleepyLion]

I see the southern section of the temporary seats looks empty. Perhaps that section was’t finished?

there are some people there now... late arrivals?

 

[PSU_Nut]

there are some people there now... late arrivals?

It the last student sections they are filling.

 

[94LionsFan]

Anyone catch the death toll from yesterday’s game?

Or have they managed to keep that quiet?