They aren’t sacrificing any of the student section. If you read up on the concepts for the renovation plan you would see that there is little or no intention to touch the south end zone. I suggest we all wait to see what the final plan looks like instead of jumping to conclusions. And, please, whatever you do don’t get frightened by the naysayers on this board who readily admit that they have no financial skin in the game (not even attending a single game) but feel they need to be the smartest people in the room by throwing stones at all things PSU.
Beaver Stadium Renovation Survey
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This ceased being all about- or even somewhat about- the students long ago.
Why is this being done now? Didn't Kraft say he had something like 19 (the number varies, but it's more than one) studies? And wasn't Ms. Excellence doing something with regard to the project in her final years?
Not as far off as you think. Read that some construction, primarily aimed at "winterizing" is to begin in June 2024, with the major project to commence soon after the next football season.
So you're talking about Board of Trustee member Barry Fenchak? Oh, your comment was aimed at me. Careful when you cast a wide net because you often don't know what you'll catch.
Is it really a matter of "greed" or a matter of "need" to pay the bills?
Penn State Fans Cry Foul Over Football Donation “Money Grab”
Dave Clark, 3 years agoSeason ticket holders for Penn State University’s football program got a double-whammy last week. Not only did the school announce it would not be allowing fans in the stands for 2020 due to the coronavirus, but it is keeping donation money that is required as a part of the season ticket purchase process, rather than allowing it to be applied to 2021 tickets or refunded.
Needless to say, the reactions have not been positive.
“If I take the option to rollover my season tickets, I still have to pay that fee in addition and I didn’t get the service or product for which I paid the fee in 2020,” Bill Cluck, class of 1982, told Pennlive.com. “There are some that argue that’s fraud.”
Seat contributions have shifted in recent years due to tax law changes introduced by the Trump administration. Previously, schools often required donations from season ticket holders as part of the process for gaining priority for season tickets, but the donations were tax-deductible and separate from the ticket buying process. Now, they are generally a line-item within the ticket purchase – a certain donation per-seat, depending on the stadium location of the seat. At Penn State, the seat contribution prices range from $100 to as high as $2,000 per seat.
As athletic departments scramble to plan around reduced capacity or no capacity amid the coronavirus, most are treating those seat donations in the same fashion they are treating their ticket prices: fans can roll that money over and apply it to 2021 season tickets and donations, or they can request a refund without penalty. Many, like Michigan, have requested that fans convert the donations to the old tax-deductible version for this year as a way of helping the school weather the financial storm.
Penn State isn’t leaving it up to the fans. The donations are being automatically converted, meaning all will have to donate once again to have their seats in 2021. Additionally, the school announced any fans who request a refund of their ticket prices rather than rolling them into next year’s tickets, will not be guaranteed their seating locations or parking for 2021.
Everything you just asked for is in the Mount Nittany suites section aka South end zone
For the record , and you should know this , there are two sections on the west and east sides that have the Freshman and Grad students sit in . How does that not get affected ?
Fair. I forgot about the west sections for students. However, the premise of the question, at least as I read it, was permanently displacing swaths of student tickets in favor of higher-priced seating options. I don’t know for sure, but my assumption is there will be some short-term disruption and/or relocation for some student sections.
Certainly possible. Those sitting in luxury seats aren't exactly known for adding to the environment and crowd noise.
There's not a chance in hell that none of them get built. It is a certainty. They make more money on these types of seats. That's a primary reason why NFL stadiums which have lower capacities overall have way more suites and such, the owners make more money on the suites which offsets the smaller capacities. If you actually believe there's a chance they will abandon all high priced luxury seating options based on the survey results I've got some swamp land to sell you.
Surveys like this are a great way to make it look like you are collecting community input while the final decisions are very unlikely to be swayed based on the results. Local government operates the same way. They hold community meetings where all the NIMBYs argue against whatever is being proposed and guess what, that thing gets adopted anyway while the leaders say they held "extensive community outreach sessions" before making a decision.
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Inclined to agree that the decisions on what to build have already been made. Problem is if the suites go unoccupied. Advantage NFL teams enjoy is that most of their suites are sold to companies.
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