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I know nothing about baseball (other than following our team), who is the best modern major leaguer (since 1980)? I use 1980 because most sports were fully integrated by then.
 

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I know nothing about baseball (other than following our team), who is the best modern major leaguer (since 1980)? I use 1980 because most sports were fully integrated by then.
I mean for shear ability without factoring a long career, it’s Ohtani.
 

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I mean for shear ability without factoring a long career, it’s Ohtani.
If he stays on his projections he will be one of or the greatest player ever. I didn’t use him because it’s so early in his career. It’s like Griffey Jr. who might be one of the greatest if not for all the injuries mid to late in his career.
 
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If he stays on his projections he will be one of or the greatest player ever. I didn’t use him because it’s so early in his career. It’s like Griffey Jr. who might be one of the greatest if not for all the injuries mid to late in his career.
Yep. If we are talking career, I go with Bonds too, but if you tell me we have a pickup game and I can pick anyone in the prime of their career first. I’m going with the guy that can give me 7 SO innings and and go 4-5 with 6 RBI.
 

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I know nothing about baseball (other than following our team), who is the best modern major leaguer (since 1980)? I use 1980 because most sports were fully integrated by then.
Bonds, Gwynn, or Ichiro... and honestly you can throw Jeter in there. If injuries didn't bite him, the great baseball argument would be Mays or Griffey, Jr.

Maddux or Clemens on the mound

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I hit 4 Grand Slams in 1981. I just came up with bases loaded a bunch of times because Gman walked like 67 times.

That stat shows why you can't really rely on analytics. To hit .300 you don't get 3 hits in every 10 ABs.
This. It is all about opportunity. It is impossible to hit a GS unless three other hitters reach base in front of them. Getting that many opportunities is probably as big of a feat as actually hitting the dinger. I would imagine one has a better chance to get a pitch to hit with the based loaded because the hitter knows the pitcher has to put the ball in the strike zone.
 

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• The historic 1994 season in which Gwynn batted .394 -- the closest anyone has come to hitting .400 since Ted Williams did so -- was cut short by the strike. Could Gwynn have reached .400? It's pure speculation at this point, but he was batting .423/.472/.613 in the second half that year. Gwynn's .334 career second-half batting average is the third best in the last 50 years.

• Rather famously, Gwynn struck out three times in a game only once -- against Bob Welch and the Los Angeles Dodgers in 1986. But Gwynn played a pivotal role in that game, nonetheless, singling in the eighth, and scoring the tying run in the 10th after reaching on an error. In fact, he added 37.9 percent to the Padres' win probability that day.

• Including postseason play, Gwynn faced 18 Hall of Fame pitchers for a total of 541 plate appearances. That’s essentially a full season’s worth of plate appearances exclusively against Hall of Famers. Gwynn batted .331/.371/.426.

• In his entire 20-year career, Gwynn struck out 434 times -- an average of 21.7 K's per season. Last season, 129 players had struck out 22 times by the end of April.

• Since Gwynn debuted in 1982, a hitter has finished a season with a batting average above .350 only 46 times. Gwynn has seven of those seasons, the most of any player in that span.

• Gwynn batted .300 in every season but his rookie year, giving him a record 19 straight seasons above .300. J.D. Martinez is the current leader with four straight .300-plus seasons.

• Gwynn finished his career batting .302 with two strikes. That's easily the best mark for any player since numbers were first tracked by count in the mid-1970s. Wade Boggs comes in second at .262. In fact, in 1994, Gwynn batted an absurd .397 in two-strike counts.

• Six times in Padres history has a player recorded 200 hits in a season. Five of those seasons belong to Gwynn (1984, '86, '87, '89, '97). Mark Loretta had 208 hits in 2004.
 
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