I 'sorta' agree but at the same time, Leach would have won with the guys he recruited. That said, he wasn't really ever a fit here, from the scheme to the recruiting. It's amazing that he won as much as he did. I always thought he was better suited for Arkansas or Tennessee.
He would not have won with what he recruited on defense. And I can’t imagine where this defense would be without Covid. Coaching may be bad but the roster is depleted.
I will pass judgment on his portal skills after this year. Last year was rough and to say “well we should have hit the portal harder” isn’t reasonable. You just can’t whiff on 3 classes like we have.
I think the administration and money boosters want to do everything possible to set the stage for the return of Arnett in the case of a 4-8 season. 3-9 he is gone, 6-6 he stays. 5-8 he very likely stays, but 4-8 is a real possibility and will lead to some very unhappy fans.
You're looking at rankings instead of actual players. Rankings aren't real beyond the obvious. Now go look at all the transfers out that couldn't play here.
You’re moving the goalposts. While we can all agree rankings aren’t everything…they are what we have to go on for comparison. For the most part we have always been a mid 20’s recruiting school. That hasn’t been any different the last few years. Players come and go. Even moreso now with the portal. But to act like we signed 20’s rated classes before that most of them panned out and stayed around and these didn’t is just fooling yourself. Not one person talked about the our past recruiting until we needed a scapegoat.
I agree that our defensive players cannot possibly be as bad as they are playing. Surely they must have some potential.
Plenty of us looked at the opening day depth chart and wondered why the hell everyone was so old. And maybe these are intentional leaks but it’s reasonable for people to start asking questions when things go badly.
I never heard that, you mean before the season started , the veteran team returning so many players off a 9-4 team......that fans were looking at the roster and saying “we have so many upperclassmen therefore we must suck“ ? I never heard or saw an opinion like that. That sounds a little far fetched.
Ok. But at the end of the day it doesn’t matter if you heard it or not. We are thin and relying on 5th and 6th year seniors bc the last 3 years have been so bad. I’m not here to defend Arnett. Dont really care. He may be awful but there are absolute personnel issues. Like I said- how many Leach guys were on the starting 22 for SELA?
I’d say we are just really poorly coached. you don’t go from 9-4 to 0-8 in the sec when you return this many players off the same team. sorry
If we had TAMU, Ark and Auburn at home I think we could win some even with this defense. Too many people don’t realize how good the schedule was last year.
I’m sure it was. Bama was better. We played at LSU and we played Georgia. All 3 were losses so who cares. But we didn’t beat a single ranked team. We haven’t even played our whole season yet.
I don’t think that’s “universally agreed” at all.
You keep bringing up SOS like you actually know what it means.
The problem most people agree on is that the staff had way too little input on offers and 2 analysts had all the control.
I’m curious as to why you think this, why those two particular places, and why not here?
COVID counts. We don't win the national championship without COVID.
Just the overall type of talent that they typically bring in, historically, vs. what we do. And, the type of football teams they usually are. Feels like Leach's personality suits them better.
We've got other problems besides just that, but poor recruiting has really caught up to us big time this year. And that was going to happen no matter who the coach was.
I'm not.
The whole story to push is based on blaming somebody that's dead and can not defend himself. That's more than pathetic. Our recruiting under Leach was not off from our norm. Our WR room improved a lot. Even our QB room was better.
Again how many starters for the opening game did Leach bring in?
Arnett's fault. Nobody but his. DL is short because we changed defenses from a 4 man front and Arnett inherited more DLmen. It's why the DL was deep. He spent more time on the backend and LBs
