Thanks for posting this. Anyone blaming Leech didn't like the Air Raid. Leech recruited the offensive players and Arnett recruited the defense. Our NIL collective is 2 years behind Ole Miss'. Lane has bought a lot of his players through the portal. Is anyone surprised that our administration is slow to react? If you aren't then you haven't been a State fan for very long.
Meh. That’s not really how recruiting works. The DC doesn’t make all the defense offers or calls. And it definitely didn’t work like that under Leach. And it sure doesn’t help to have nearly an entire staff that is foreign to our footprint.
I count 10 on offense (Rogers, Marks, Walley, Griffin, Harmon, Reese, Jones, Losoya, Robinson, Mosley) and 9 on defense (Davis, Ellington, Anderson, Page, Williams, Nicholson, Richardson, Russell, Morant) that are at least playing significantly. There may be more. And I don't think we were necessarily relying on the 6th year guys to be competent, we wanted them back because they are good players and it was supposed to be an added advantage.
If this staff is here next year, recruiting is going to be worse. You got TX and OU coming into the SEC. We are about to take our rightful spot at the bottom if we keep him.
A lot of those guys you named were signed/committed by Moorhead including Marks, Tulu, Walley, Decam
No. This is a down year in the sec. LOL! TAMU sucked last year, but those 1 million dollar players are not true freshmen anymore and they have a great defense.
So is our SOS stronger last year or this year? Make up your mind.
There is no question that it's a necessity, and we need a strategy there just like anywhere else. I haven't run the numbers yet, but I'd be curious as to what our hit rate is between the P5 benchwarmers looking for PT, and the G5 starters looking to make a jump to P5.
We beat zero ranked teams last year. The only poll that matters is the final one. If we beat the #1 team in the country in game 1 and then they went 0-12 would you say we beat the #1 team in the country?
Yeah I couldn't remember when the actual transition took place. I guess Moorhead signed them in the first NSD then Leach finished in the second one.
It 100% worked that way under Leach.
We are not good because this entire staff sucks!
It certainly seems that the system that helped Mullen is no longer viable, at least to the extent they did it. This new era requires a new plan, or a revised one.
Because football is changing. Just like the transition from having a FB. Not many use them anymore. The NFL has changed. RBs use to be one of the highest paying positions. It's no longer the case. Their value has even dropped. They are being used more and more out of the backfield.
Agree with all that. But honestly to me it's just another reason to zig when everybody else zags. We tried with Mike Leach to commit to the passing attack, it didn't work. I don't think we will ever have NFL talent on offense on a regular basis. I DO think we can have it on defense. I really wish we could a modernized RichRod or Malzahn offense at MSU, with a guy like Pat White or Nick Marshall. We can find and sign those sort of guys. The sell on our offense will not be the NFL, it will be a chance to play and show off your athleticism, and maybe get a shot somewhere.
Mobile QBs are everywhere in CFB. You don’t have to run the read option. But you have to have mobility. Sitting back in the pocket for the sake of doing it is dumb.
I'm talking runners who throw on the side. Like White/Marshall. And the fact that they are everywhere is an advantage to us - we will be able to find some. We likely will not be able to compete for the guys who are also elite passers.
Leach's system did work here. What needed to happen was a modification. It would have kept Locke here too.
Really? Under Leach, we recruited 2 QBs that threw for 12,000 yards in HS. One did that in 3 years. What you are suggesting would be pushing us to the bottom of the pecking order because "everybody is doing it" means you compete with everybody.
Admire your optimism, but there's a lot of history that says the opposite. Outside of Rogers, pretty much all our successful, winning QBs have been runners. Dak is the only one who added the passing.
What did they do here? Most people bltched about Leach's offense the entire time he was here, and rightfully so because it was a little limited with what we had.
Most of the people that complained are RTDF COACH people. They believe that is football. And it was... it's no longer that.
Train and waited on their time.
You have a valid point. Bo Bounds says it all the time. And we know the NFL will always value passers first and foremost.
Interesting considering that only 2 people on this board predicted less than a 500 record - myself and fighting Irish - and I think I overshot with mine
For real. And not only that, we let a lot of guys go down to USM, that apparently weren't good enough to play here. Then we bring in 4-5 from the portal (Keys, Rogers, Raydar, Albert, Brown) - where are they? But it doesn't really matter - these guys aren't as terrible as they are playing.
It's getting worse than that.
They are not! 100% correct. We have great talent in the secondary but we lack a focused coaching staff.
Yea I looked at the 24 signing classes of this staff #35 and ole miss, it’s pitiful. all the D lineman are going to ole miss but we supposedly have the Peterson/Friend in state cleanup crew.
Let's don't bury them all. Hughes, Bumphis, Turner, Knox - those are our guys. And Mele is OK with special teams it appears. Heck I don't even think Barbay is that bad.
