Cohen to Auburn?

Drebin

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Did he make the hire or not?

Exactly. The only AD to hire a guy who gave us a national title in a sport.
He got lucky with that hire. He made the Cannizaro hire which was a bad one, and then he swung and missed on his top choices to replace before Lemonis fell into his lap. So you're ignoring a lot of facts to try to make a point.

He also made a catastrophic football hire, and followed that up with a lazy, underwhelming one. Our WBB coach left under his watch and he made a catastrophic hire to replace him.

He's also mismanaged a lot of stuff, from facilities, to fundraising, to NIL.

He was already getting fired anyway, so I hope the Auburn stuff is true because 1) he'll have a job and 2) one of our key rivals in the SEC West will be seriously downgrading their athletic department. But I doubt Auburn is this stupid.
 

Drebin

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MS State has trouble keeping anyone who is at all competent. If Cohen leaves, which one of you athletics wizards knows the person to lead our program. I don’t. I hope Mark Keemun does.
You're conflating two different issues. You don't keep the guy who sucks just because you suck at finding better guys. You fix the first part, then at least there's a chance you can catch lightning in a bottle after that.
 

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He got lucky with that hire. He made the Cannizaro hire which was a bad one, and then he swung and missed on his top choices to replace before Lemonis fell into his lap. So you're ignoring a lot of facts to try to make a point.

He also made a catastrophic football hire, and followed that up with a lazy, underwhelming one. Our WBB coach left under his watch and he made a catastrophic hire to replace him.

He's also mismanaged a lot of stuff, from facilities, to fundraising, to NIL.

He was already getting fired anyway, so I hope the Auburn stuff is true because 1) he'll have a job and 2) one of our key rivals in the SEC West will be seriously downgrading their athletic department. But I doubt Auburn is this stupid.
Ah.... Love it.

"He got LUCKY!"
 

Ibdancin

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You're conflating two different issues. You don't keep the guy who sucks just because you suck at finding better guys. You fix the first part, then at least there's a chance you can catch lightning in a bottle after that.
LOL.... This is awesome!
 

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At the expense of what?

Again, Cohen has made great hires and got us a national championship.
I’ve never said Cohen did a bad job. But the fact is we don’t have to settle for a first time AD or a retired baseball coach. We can go get a guy who is doing the job well at a smaller school.
 

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He got lucky with that hire. He made the Cannizaro hire which was a bad one, and then he swung and missed on his top choices to replace before Lemonis fell into his lap. So you're ignoring a lot of facts to try to make a point.

He also made a catastrophic football hire, and followed that up with a lazy, underwhelming one. Our WBB coach left under his watch and he made a catastrophic hire to replace him.

He's also mismanaged a lot of stuff, from facilities, to fundraising, to NIL.

He was already getting fired anyway, so I hope the Auburn stuff is true because 1) he'll have a job and 2) one of our key rivals in the SEC West will be seriously downgrading their athletic department. But I doubt Auburn is this stupid.

I think it’s time for Cohen to go but you’re doing quite the exaggeration on some of his coaching hires to prove a point.
 

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I can't imagine AU hiring Cohen. But many may not want the job and he's their fall back guy.
 

Ibdancin

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Compared to the rest of his hires, it's an outlier, so I'd say my explanation is a better one than anything you could come up with.

Oh you mean the rest have not won a national title... YET? That's amazing. I gotta say. We have arrived and Cohen just doesn't get it. Thank you for helping understand that.
 

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Could you cite which one I'm exaggerating about?
Hiring an active P5 coach is lazy and underwhelming? Whether you hate Leach or not, that is a stupid statement.

MSU NEVER has been able to do that and all of a sudden THAT is the lazy option? SMDH
 
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Hiring an active P5 coach is lazy and underwhelming? Whether you hate Leach or not, that is a stupid statement.

MSU NEVER has been able to do that and all of a sudden THAT is the lazy option? SMDH
Exactly. One that just landed 12 four star recruits in the last class....etc. Got the highest rated QB ever to come to MSU. Got the QB that broke King and Murray's record in TX... 2 different QBs... BUT HEY...
 
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Hiring an active P5 coach is lazy and underwhelming? Whether you hate Leach or not, that is a stupid statement.

MSU NEVER has been able to do that and all of a sudden THAT is the lazy option? SMDH
The same coach that has been trying to get an SEC gig for years? He was up for Tennessee and Arkansas and came up short before we hired him. I understand that facts are inconvenient things but they're still facts.
 

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I can't imagine AU hiring Cohen. But many may not want the job and he's their fall back guy.
I wouldn't leave Vegas for The Plains as an AD even if I were a bear grad looking desperately for a new job and they offered to double my salary. Working for the AU Cigar Boys hasta be a living Hell yet they're too dumb to realize how bad they 17 things up and wonder why AU is so inconsistent considering the talent they pull in.
 

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The same coach that has been trying to get an SEC gig for years? He was up for Tennessee and Arkansas and came up short before we hired him. I understand that facts are inconvenient things but they're still facts.
WOW!!! Leach left the SEC. Arkansas could not hire Leach. Talk about "inconvenient". Like I said.. an inconvenient fact is this AD is the only one that gave us a National Title in any sport.
 

Drebin

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Oh you mean the rest have not won a national title... YET? That's amazing. I gotta say. We have arrived and Cohen just doesn't get it. Thank you for helping understand that.
You still haven't stopped crying about us firing Moorhead. You've been on the wrong side of history in all of these arguments. But by all means....carry on.
 

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You still haven't stopped crying about us firing Moorhead. You've been on the wrong side of history in all of these arguments. But by all means....carry on.
Now you are just lying because you can't defend your points. I have always defended common sense in allow a program to be built and you don't do that in 2 or 3 years (example Clawson, Stoops... and well.. HISTORY) and agreed that he had to go because he lost control of the team!
 

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BTW.... Cohen got an extension this summer. We were not trying to force him out
 

Drebin

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BTW.... Cohen got an extension this summer. We were not trying to force him out
Sports Illustrated article on the subject:

REPORT: Auburn is supposedly negotiating the open Athletic Director job with current Mississippi State AD John Cohen
Mississippi State higher-ups would love for Auburn to solve their John Cohen problem

Lindsay Crosby53 minutes ago
Pete Thamel, senior college football writer for ESPN, dropped a bombshell on twitter during Auburn's matchup against Arkansas: Auburn is apparently "in discussions" with Mississippi State's current athletic director John Cohen for the open athletic director job vacated by Allen Greene earlier this year.

Sports Illustrated's Ross Dellinger was able to independently confirm the report.

Cohen, 56, has spent the last seven years as the Athletic Director at Mississippi State after one year as Associate AD and, prior to that, a college baseball coaching career that saw him serve as the head coach at Mississippi State from 2009-2016 and Kentucky from 2004-2008 before that.

Despite common perception that Cohen has excelled at Mississippi State, including capturing a national championship in baseball in 2021 under head coach Chris Lemonis, conversations coming out of Starkville paint a different picture.

According to Justin Hokanson of On3, multiple sources have expressed concern about the longevity of Cohen's tenure in Starkville, with conversations expressing concern that he is on his way out of the Bulldogs top spot.

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The Mississippi Clarion Ledger recently wrote about the "legacy" of Cohen, citing recent regression in all major sports, even baseball, as well as questionable handling of NIL and uncertain hires both within the athletic administration and coaching staffs.

One particular note about the recent slide in on-field performance was rather sobering:

If the coaches fail, it’ll be on Cohen. He extended Leach, who is below .500 in his tenure at State with two Egg Bowl losses. Lemonis followed up baseball’s first national title with a losing season. Women’s basketball fell from a Final Four program to one with four coaches since 2020. Men’s basketball hasn’t been to the NCAA Tournament since 2019 and had an average attendance of only 6,830 last season.

Higher-ups at Mississippi State would reportedly be happy with Auburn taking John Cohen, as it's never easy to move on from a former player and "lifer" (similar to Nebraska's experience with Scott Frost).

The rumored favorite for the Athletic Director position at Auburn, Utah State's John Hartwell, is still considered to be in the running, as well as New Mexico's Eddie Nunez. Both men are considered to be accomplished and experienced athletic directors, with Hartwell having run the Old Miss Athletics Foundation as well as being AD at Troy before his current stint at Utah State while Nunez has 15 years of experience, including 14 at LSU in various capacities within the athletics department.
 

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The only plausible thing that makes sense to me is Cohen was indeed told he was on the way out and he started looking. And Auburn whiffed on a few. I just don't understand what Cohen has done to warrant Auburn wanting him.
Based off reading reports on 247, it sounds like he was approached for the job and we didn’t exactly make an exerted effort to keep him. But that still doesn’t answer why Auburn wants him. But then again, no idea why A&M wanted Bjork. I guess we will never understand what goes on behind the scenes in college administration
 

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He may not be the worst AD in the world for Auburn. They need somebody to pinch pennies and keep their alumni in check. He was good for us in and around COVID. I don’t feel the relationship has grown stale.

At MSU I think we need more of a people-person fund raiser type. We can’t afford to have a disgruntled fanbase.
 
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