Cold hard dose of reality

[Southern Fried Chicken]

The precedent having already been set the other way, legislation will be required.

The only thing is ... you can't legislate effort.

Most of the Hot Dawgs (on both teams) never put their shoulder down, attempting to gain another 2 to 5 yards anymore but, rather run out-of-bounds. Hell, that Mizzou DB went into his slide, in the middle of the field, before any Carolina players were within 5 yards of him.

But, I will tell you what, watch the game replay and notice that on virtually every single play, some Hot Dawg is either fist pumping or running down field 40 yards while self-praising themselves for being involved (didn't necessarily MAKE-the-Play, just needed to be somewhere close by) so they can pull out their 'Little Boy Pretend Guns". It has gotten ridiculous!

 

[KingWard]

That was my question...why do you care? More college football is always good.

I don't really attach achievement to a pair of 6-6 teams playing in Mobile, Alabama on the day after Christmas. If the teams want to play and someone wants to pay to have a game for them to show up to, I don't see that it hurts anyone.

But it is college football, and I tend to watch parts of most bowl games.

Because I don't agree that more college football is always good. Steak is good, but more of it isn't always good if the part that is more is also rancid.

 

[will110]

Because I don't agree that more college football is always good. Steak is good, but more of it isn't always good if the part that is more is also rancid.

Good analogy lol.

However you can always leave the rancid steak in the fridge if you like, you don't have to put it on the grill!

If lower bowl games are rancid steak, then I like rancid steak and will eat it for you. I don't want less college football! I enjoy having random matchups all through December.

 

[Lurker123]

I'm one of those on the side of "more football".

During Christmas time off, I love watching crap bowls, and bowls where entire teams have opted out. Maybe it'll change as more opt outs happen. But I still get excited for the latest bowls.

I also understand how some people can think that is nuts.

 

[KingWard]

The only thing is ... you can't legislate effort.

Most of the Hot Dawgs (on both teams) never put their shoulder down, attempting to gain another 2 to 5 yards anymore but, rather run out-of-bounds. Hell, that Mizzou DB went into his slide, in the middle of the field, before any Carolina players were within 5 yards of him.

But, I will tell you what, watch the game replay and notice that on virtually every single play, some Hot Dawg is either fist pumping or running down field 40 yards while self-praising themselves for being involved (didn't necessarily MAKE-the-Play, just needed to be somewhere close by) so they can pull out their 'Little Boy Pretend Guns". It has gotten ridiculous!

Intangibles will always be problematic but recognizable. College athletics needs a recognized framework under which to operate, regardless.

 

[KingWard]

Good analogy lol.

However you can always leave the rancid steak in the fridge if you like, you don't have to put it on the grill!

If lower bowl games are rancid steak, then I like rancid steak and will eat it for you. I don't want less college football! I enjoy having random matchups all through December.

I recognize that opinions regarding all things differ, including what constitutes things of lesser desirability.

 

[will110]

I'm one of those on the side of "more football".

During Christmas time off, I love watching crap bowls, and bowls where entire teams have opted out. Maybe it'll change as more opt outs happen. But I still get excited for the latest bowls.

I also understand how some people can think that is nuts.

That's the thing with the crap bowls, you don't know who the players are so opt-outs really are irrelevant.

The New Year's Six bowls were the ones that were so negatively impacted by opt-outs.

 

[atl-cock]

Any idea what student requirements are actually contained in athletics aid instruments?

Only generally. Take and attend the requisite number of courses/classes and meet certain academic standards.

Reasonable at that. Since these scholarships are renewable, if a student-athlete does not show up to practice, preforms well, etc., I can see the scholly not being renewed.

Bobby Dodd, during his long tenure at Georgia Tech, hated the renewable aspect. He felt that the school should honour the scholly for four years (barring egregious behaviour, of course).

 

[KingWard]

Reasonable at that. Since these scholarships are renewable, if a student-athlete does not show up to practice, preforms well, etc., I can see the scholly not being renewed.

Bobby Dodd, during his long tenure at Georgia Tech, hated the renewable aspect. He felt that the school should honour the schooly for four years (barring egregious behaviour, of course).

He was a fine gentleman coaching at a special place. Their standards were part of the reason they left the SEC.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I guess until proven otherwise, I'll bet on Beamer's culture. Kennard was a good player at GT, but Beamer gave him a chance to shine in the SEC on the national stage, and he's blown up as a top DE. I'm going to believe he'll reciprocate and play to the end.

 

[Rhode Island Dork]

It truly disgusts me to even think about this, but the reality of it is steamrolling our way. If we're left out of the playoff, I fully expect the following to not play in the bowl:

R. Sanders
Simon
Kennard
T. Sanders
Knight
Fortune
Emanwori

It'll be like the Gator Bowl all over again where 8 starters didn't play, & had they played, we were easily 17 points better than the Irish.

 

[atl-cock]

He was a fine gentleman coaching at a special place. Their standards were part of the reason they left the SEC.

Exactly.

During their 30 years in the SEC, Dodd would not schedule Ole Miss and Ole Miss state in football. The Rebels did make one visit to Atlanta in 1946, and the Jackets met the Rebels in the 1953 Sugar Bowl (many Sugar Bowl contests in those days featured two SEC teams as a way of avoiding racial integration).

I wonder if the Mississippi schools would have supported Dodd's stance had he agreed to begin scheduling them. But methinks Dodd had made up his mind to leave regardless, and convinced the AD and president of this.

I appreciate his principle, but in hindsight, it was a foolish athletic move.

 

[SuperCock99]

Basically Bowl Games are becoming scrimmages. They will have to script them and add drama to attract viewers.

 

[SC95]

Under the current system all that matters is the regular season and the playoff, bowl games have zero meaning and are just an exhibition. Play the guys that are projected to fill those opt-outs positions and move on. It is what it is until we have some kind of formal contracts.

Agreed. Bowl games are to college football what the CBI and NIT are to college basketball.

 

[atl-cock]

Agreed. Bowl games are to college football what the CBI and NIT are to college basketball.

Nothing wrong with that, IMO.

 

[KingWard]

Nothing wrong with that, IMO.

I don't have time.