Cory Giger got owned today by Franklin. I sort of loved this entire thing.

[TheTwistedFrog]

Don't disagree that it's more realistic now than it was 5 years ago, I just don't agree with changing my life for something that while it CAN happen, rarely does. Then again, I work in cyber and am very capable of obscuring my digital trail (and I take measures to do so), as well as the fact that I'm not a public figure.

The key part there is that you're not a public figure. Unless you happen to piss off the wrong basement monster, 99.99% of people can happily troll away all they want and there will never be consequences.

But more and more we see people attach huge chunks of their personalities to something beyond their control. A politician, a football team, an entertainer. It's deeply unhealthy and leads to deeply unhealthy behaviors. When I was stationed in Tucson, I worked with a guy who had both arms and both legs totally covered in Alabama tattoos. Four full sleaves. Plus a giant mural on his back.

Guys like that don't exactly laugh off a loss and have another beer.

There's also far too much media covering college athletics. I can count 5 different Penn State podcasts on Spotify when I do a search. WTF do we need 5 podcasts for?

 

[ILLINOISLION]

I could kind of see that, but if it isn't successful or it is well covered, it would probably have the opposite effect of emboldening the opponent to not worry about that as a threat.

Well that reaction would maybe help our subsequent efforts to throw deep!

 

[ILLINOISLION]

If I’m on the 15th hole, yes

Don’t carry a 2 iron and if you do, don’t ever use it! ⛳️

 

[Tony 83]

Don’t carry a 2 iron and if you do, don’t ever use it! ⛳️

what's the joke - if you're on the course and see lightning, hold a 2 iron up over your head, because not even God can hit a 2-iron

 

[Auxgym]

Wow. I would say don’t quit your day job - but maybe quit your day job. What a dumb f*cking question.

Giger considers himself as a polished journalist…. Truth is you would hear more smarts with a group of coal miners having a beer after a tough shift. He’s a hack that resorts to vulgar comments due to not being able to grasp the English language.

 

[LionJim]

As man times as Godwin or Gesiski came down with the football, were they REALLY 50-50 balls?? Maybe more like 80-20 balls and the staff knew it? The law of averages seemed to never seemed to catch up to the play call.

I like this take. I mean, if it were me covering Chris Godwin, trying to, of course, there is no such thing as a 50-50 ball.

 

[LionJim]

And we wonder why this country is in trouble. News? Really?

It’s not about news, it’s all about money, all about the clicks. Capitalism ain’t pretty, but it’s how we all roll.

 

[PSUJam]

And this is gold.

 

[PSUSignore]

I think the problem in throwing deep this year is that we do not seem to have the receivers who have been able to get open deep. Heck, some of them have struggled to get separation at any level, which is such a shame now that we have a qb like Allar who can make so many of the throws.

Haven't the coaches also said that defenses are playing the safeties down to stack the box and stop the run while also playing the corners deep to keep everything in front of them? If true, then we are just taking what they are giving us and doing a pretty good job of it.

 

[wbcbus]

He's trying to become a victim because he was made such a fool of. Sorry bud, no dice here. Of course idiots online are going to say crazy things, they do it all the time in almost every thread on twitter you'd find. It's not a real threat. Nobody feels bad for you.

 

[ManxomeLion]

I like this take. I mean, if it were me covering Chris Godwin, trying to, of course, there is no such thing as a 50-50 ball.

I like Franklin's press briefings, but he does get ornery at times, though it seems like it may be directed a few specific members.
Not intending to defend to Giger either, but if the question were to be phrased in terms of "risk management" and whether there were circumstances under which Allar would take a "shot" (a chance), it would seem to be a legit, though perhaps obvious, question. I would imagine there are times where being down by 2 or more scores with limited time on the clock, or where a long shot before halftime may be the same a punt, where the risk is worth it since the points matter more than Allar's stat sheet.

 

[Woodpecker]

I like this take. I mean, if it were me covering Chris Godwin, trying to, of course, there is no such thing as a 50-50 ball.

It turns out that coin flips aren't really 50-50

 

[Bvillebaron]

I listed to the presser yesterday and cringed for Giger on this. CJF owned his a$$.

Well deserved.

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Don’t carry a 2 iron and if you do, don’t ever use it! ⛳️

Harry let me hit his sims hybrids, got a bag full of them

 

[Schoolie]

Don't disagree that it's more realistic now than it was 5 years ago, I just don't agree with changing my life for something that while it CAN happen, rarely does. Then again, I work in cyber and am very capable of obscuring my digital trail (and I take measures to do so), as well as the fact that I'm not a public figure.

We’ll, Buckaroo, you’re a public figure now.

 

[Schoolie]

There is also a difference between having "50/50" passes as part of your game plan, and having the QB make a decision based on his reads. Giger's question was more along the lines of "why the hell don't you just throw the ball deep and see what happens?"

So, Ginger’s question guarantees we won’t go deep this week. Against this opponent, why bother?m

 

[PSUJam]

Do with it what you choose.

 

[marshall23]

No self respecting football coach would embrace the idea of throwing the ball up and see what happens.
Here's a big secret....there is more than one plan to win a football game.

 

[Corner Room Breakfast]

Do with it what you choose.

 

[psuro]

Do with it what you choose.

I see nothing wrong with what CJF said. It's part of practice. And, I would be hard pressed to believe that it was said for the benefit/detriment of the media at the practice. But, even if he did, then.....deal with it.

 

[nittanyfan333]

We’ll, Buckaroo, you’re a public figure now.

 

[bbrown]

I like Franklin's press briefings, but he does get ornery at times, though it seems like it may be directed a few specific members.
Not intending to defend to Giger either, but if the question were to be phrased in terms of "risk management" and whether there were circumstances under which Allar would take a "shot" (a chance), it would seem to be a legit, though perhaps obvious, question. I would imagine there are times where being down by 2 or more scores with limited time on the clock, or where a long shot before halftime may be the same a punt, where the risk is worth it since the points matter more than Allar's stat sheet.

That seems to be pretty much standard in these PC's. I've seen the same and much worse with a lot of them, both college and pro.

 

[Georgia Peach]

No self respecting football coach would embrace the idea of throwing the ball up and see what happens.
Here's a big secret....there is more than one plan to win a football game.

Let's not mischaracterize the question and the response. The question is one we have been asking on here for weeks and it concerns the lack of big plays. There are all kinds of stats out there which show we suck at big plays. Giger admits the question was inartfully posed but the issue remains: we are last in the Power 5 in big plays. The team tracks such things weekly and Coach always discusses "explosive plays" at his post game presser. Let's not pretend that this is irrelevant.

When you feast on teams like Delaware and Northwestern you should be able to hit a few big plays regardless of the defense being played as the talent levels are in great disparity (if you consider yourself a championship contender). The lack of them is a concern and Franklin's reaction (his skin was made to crawl?) could signal that Giger hit a nerve.

 

[JWB389]

First, I am very pro-James Franklin. He's a very good fit for us. I think his response was a little over the top.

 

[Bob78]

As man times as Godwin or Gesiski came down with the football, were they REALLY 50-50 balls?? Maybe more like 80-20 balls and the staff knew it? The law of averages seemed to never seemed to catch up to the play call.

I agree. The coaches know their athletes and what they are capable of. And, teams need to have their athletes "out-athlete" the other teams' athletes to win --- a play, a series, a quarter, or a game. What may look like "anybody's ball" to fans has probably been practiced countless times for placement and timing, and the coaches and players feel there is a very good chance (80%!) those throws will be completed, or at worst, fall incomplete, in a game even when going against other great athletes.

If you're not as confident in that working out in your favor, you stay away from it.

 

[Alphalion75]

Not defending a dumb question. Just saying if you have the right personal like those 2 receivers the chance of you coming down with it was more than 50-50.

Ok 'coach'.

 

[WyomingLion]

Ok 'coach'.

Ok, ‘know it all’

 

[Alphalion75]

Ok, ‘know it all’

Thanks.

 

[LionJim]

Funny board today. Possible factors: The Eagles are undefeated, the Phillies are riding high, PSU is looking at an easy win Saturday, and CJF got the better of a hated sportswriter the other day.

 

[TheTwistedFrog]

Funny board today. Possible factors: The Eagles are undefeated, the Phillies are riding high, PSU is looking at an easy win Saturday, and CJF got the better of a hated sportswriter the other day.

I think that the concern being expressed is well founded. Penn State’s season is usually defined by the Ohio State and Michigan games. Both of those teams have offenses that can gain yards in chunks.

Ohio State has a passing game that, when cooking, can swamp you in a hurry.

Michigan proved last year that they have a running game that can explode at almost any moment.

So in order to win one, or both, of these games, Penn State might need to outscore someone with explosive plays.

 

[Georgia Peach]

First, I am very pro-James Franklin. He's a very good fit for us. I think his response was a little over the top.

It was because he had no answer that he was comfortable making public.

 

[bbrown]

delete.

 

[LionJim]

I think that the concern being expressed is well founded. Penn State’s season is usually defined by the Ohio State and Michigan games. Both of those teams have offenses that can gain yards in chunks.

Ohio State has a passing game that, when cooking, can swamp you in a hurry.

Michigan proved last year that they have a running game that can explode at almost any moment.

So in order to win one, or both, of these games, Penn State might need to outscore someone with explosive plays.

Sure, none of us are overlooking that part. But part of living a happy, fulfilling live is to play “Kick Cory Giger” whenever the opportunity arises.

 

[marshall23]

Let's not mischaracterize the question and the response. The question is one we have been asking on here for weeks and it concerns the lack of big plays. There are all kinds of stats out there which show we suck at big plays. Giger admits the question was inartfully posed but the issue remains: we are last in the Power 5 in big plays. The team tracks such things weekly and Coach always discusses "explosive plays" at his post game presser. Let's not pretend that this is irrelevant.

When you feast on teams like Delaware and Northwestern you should be able to hit a few big plays regardless of the defense being played as the talent levels are in great disparity (if you consider yourself a championship contender). The lack of them is a concern and Franklin's reaction (his skin was made to crawl?) could signal that Giger hit a nerve.

His question was (I paraphrase) why don't you just have someone run a post and throw it up there....open or not.....just to see what happens. No one who ever played or coached the game would not roll their eyes at that suggestion.
Asking why PSU has not had explosive plays in the passing game is a totally different question.
I mean, PSU is 5-0 and if they were getting "explosive" plays, I guess the only concern would be what brand of athletic supporters are issued to the team.

 

[marshall23]

It was because he had no answer that he was comfortable making public.

Perhaps. If he wanted to be a dick...like me....he would have said, we haven't gone deep cause we haven't had to. Next question.

 

[marshall23]

Sure, none of us are overlooking that part. But part of living a happy, fulfilling live is to play “Kick Cory Giger” whenever the opportunity arises.

Sure, none of us are overlooking that part. But part of living a happy, fulfilling live is to play “Kick Cory Giger” whenever the opportunity arises.

Corey Giger kicked Joe in the nuts....I see Karma.

 

[marshall23]

Hey coach....why don't you play all the guys that suck in practice and those who have a bad work ethic and attitude. Maybe they'll surprise you when they get in the game.

 

[LionJim]

Corey Giger kicked Joe in the nuts....I see Karma.

Karma implies some sort of cosmic equality between two incidents. We’re a long way from karma.

 

[GreggK]

First, I am very pro-James Franklin. He's a very good fit for us. I think his response was a little over the top.

His comment didn't happen in a vacuum. Giger is a bit of a prick.
I think he took the chance to pounce on a dumb question by a prick reporter.

 

[TheTwistedFrog]

Sure, none of us are overlooking that part. But part of living a happy, fulfilling live is to play “Kick Cory Giger” whenever the opportunity arises.

I can hardly tell these guys apart anymore. From my end of things, there's nobody who covers Penn State full time who's worth a damn. Give me Philly talk radio guys over these Chuckleberry Finns who have little to no connection to the school they're covering.