How exactly was O’Brien sold a bill of goods by the University? Seriously.
Could Ohio State already be losing offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien?
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15 players transferred (so not "dozens" which implies at least 24+) and only a few could really have been considered starters or significant contributors -Justin Brown, Anthony Fera, Khairi Fortt, Siles Redd. Maybe you could argue Shawney Kersey.
But overall there was not really the kind of massive talent exodus that was feared. And the 2012 PSU team had plenty of talent on it so going 8-4 was not really that remarkable. The bigger issue BOB had to deal with was just the off the distractions from the scandal, but the idea that the team wasn't talented enough to win the games they did is pretty ludicrous.
that was pretty much the way I remember it too. I did forget about Khari Forte though. Anthony Fera was a big loss but I'm not sure he wouldn't have tried to leave anyway, to be closer to his mom.
He (BOB) did a great job with McCgloin. What isn't mentioned enough and IMO should be are some of the Asst. coaches he brought in with him. McWhorter, again IMO, was excellent. I also really like Stan Hixson as the WR coach. He also gets some credit for finally updating some of the problem areas or at least bringing a lot more attention to it.
I'm not sure he was ever really aware of what the "sanctions" were going to be or if he was it was much more severe than he was told.
He also probably didn't think that there would be some "moles" that would try and sabotage the program from the inside.
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McWhorter may have been one of the best OL coaches ever at PSU.
I don't understand people who don't understand the O'Brien hate. We hate everybody- we hate the other teams who are in the B1G, we hate the teams who aren't in the B1G. We hate our coaches; we hate everyone else's coaches. We hate our players, our fans, ourselves.
NO ONE knew about the sanctions when Bill was hired… recalling the timeline, the scandal became public/Joe fired/Tom Bradley named interim HC for the last few games, late in the 2011 season …Bill hired January 2012…sanctions levied by NCAA/announced by Emmett early summer 2012.
My only gripe with OB was his short-term recruiting strategy. Get a bunch of skill players and TEs, but ignore the lines. He set Franklin up for trouble unnecessarily, in an attempt to juice his short-term record and bail on PSU.
But overall he was a real plus for Penn State when we could have seen everything unravel.
But overall he was a real plus for Penn State when we could have seen everything unravel.
So do we love him now because he left Ohio State and we hate Ohio State? The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Joyner was less than forthcoming about what he knew…. and, more importantly, when he knew it.
Joyner is a self serving dickbag. He was one of the dirty BOT cabal members in 2011. Then he squirreled his way into the AD position and even admitted he took the job so he could get a pension. It was great seeing him and Ericson get booed in Beaver Stadium.
He did what Joe wouldn't do . He left for the nfl . Billy did an incredible job here , but many will never forgive him for leaving . So be it . I have noticed that the national guys refer to him as Obrien . not bob . or flo . Best of luck to Billy and as long as we never play BC while he is there , may they always beat pitt
Tough to have a long term recruiting strategy when you only have 15 scholarships per year to work with and your players can leave any time they want with no consequences.
Or he had limited scholarships and figured you can piece together a decent OL with some walk-ons. Who knows, but I think he did the best he could for the team and himself.
I don't hate him, but he really embodies the careerism side of college football that, from a fan's perceptive, also highlights the lack of loyalty some individuals feel toward a school. Which runs directly in the face of our own loyalty to Penn State. Same with players transferring, especially to "hated" rivals. Ideally, we want all the players and coaches to be at Penn State because they love it as we do, not just a career opportunity or a stepping stone to something bigger. Idealistic of course, but that's part of being a fan.
If BOB didn't like recruiting in 2012, he's going to absolutely hate it now. The additions of the transfer portal and NIL make recruiting 10x harder than when he was a college head coach. Unless transfer rules change, coaches have to show up each day and recruit their own roster to make sure they don't leave. Add to that you have kids that want NIL money just to visit even if they don't commit.
With the staff they put together, Syracuse is going be really tough to recruit against in the Northeast for the type of players BC typically gets. He's going to fail miserably.
With the staff they put together, Syracuse is going be really tough to recruit against in the Northeast for the type of players BC typically gets. He's going to fail miserably.
I rarely get on board with predictions such as this but I don’t see it ending any other way.
BC will be tough job. BOB may be more comfortable back in his original home and should carry weight with some of the NE recruits. He has more of a resume than any other ACC coach.
what I still do not see is the job at OSU. It is NOT the OC but the co-OC. Does OSU think Hartline is failing - if so fire him and go after an OC. Is the OSU job a real job where if BOB goes to BC, they are going to do another search?
I feel for Bill.
He must have a lot on his plate of life.
Currently residing in the Northeast with a solid job offer in Columbus OH and an alleged one in Boston
Two young sons, one with special needs.
Career decisions are always the most difficult. So many balls to juggle.
He must have a lot on his plate of life.
Currently residing in the Northeast with a solid job offer in Columbus OH and an alleged one in Boston
Two young sons, one with special needs.
Career decisions are always the most difficult. So many balls to juggle.
Wondered where that t-shirt went.Just stumbled across a very private, naked truth about Art's sex life........
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He's made his money in the NFL, now his family gets to go home, and if you have a need for top tier healthcare, Boston is a damn good place to be.
Good for him.
Good for him.
Fran Brown, Cuse's new head coach, just won the 247 recruiter of the year for 2024. Former Penn Stater and new Cuse DC Elijah Robinson won the award in 2022. Granted both were with big money SEC teams, but with the transfer portal they amassed the 36 ranked class according to 247. That's their best recruiting class ever. I think that BOB is going to have a really tough time recruiting the Northeast. Just his name isn't enough to get recruits interested anymore.
Syracuse is just a stepping stone for Brown and E. Rob., three years tops.
I say three years tops for OB, and I think it won't be by his choosing.
Chip Kelly to OSU as OC. Franklin to UCLA .
James got reassured by the Selling Sunset crew he could afford a starter home .
James got reassured by the Selling Sunset crew he could afford a starter home .
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Boston College hires O'Brien as new head coach
Boston College has hired Bill O'Brien as the team's head coach. Originally from Massachusetts, O'Brien was hired as Ohio State's offensive coordinator last month.
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I think he just wants to be on the other side of the *** kickings for a while until a better HC job opens up. After facing Hawaii at Hawaii (which would be hard to pass on) to start the season, UCLA has LSU away, Oregon at home, then PSU away in consecutive weeks. Most likely that a 1-3 start to the season and possibly an 0-4 start.
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