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Lots of red in prime seats in ATT tonight.
Damn faculty and staff selling their tickets.*
Damn faculty and staff selling their tickets.*
Turpin made a nice catch and run. No one has said a word to me about Dak going out for the year. I guess his surgery explains his grit; it's hard to imagine that it is torn away from the bone.
I don't know if they might get lucky or not and win one game, but they are hurting on both sides of the ball. I hope they spend some time during the off season on some Linemen.
The turf not being ready because Jerry hosted a novelty boxing match 3 days before the game and that leading to the best kicker in the league shanking a 40 yarder pretty much sums up the Cowboys as an organization and Jerry as an owner.
That is why the big boys don't carry the ball.
ETA - I think the Cooper Rush experiment is over.
ETA - I think the Cooper Rush experiment is over.
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Dak has his issues, but anybody who can't see how vital he is to this organization, is either as delusional as a Democrat or just plain toopid.
They were a very mediocre team with him this season. They are officially one of the worst teams in the league without him.
They were a very mediocre team with him this season. They are officially one of the worst teams in the league without him.
Cooper can play quarterback, but the way they block, you need somebody else to play quarterback who can run. Of course, it probably does not matter anyway.
No QB is going to have success with that line and running game and Defense. Wonder whose fault that is???...
Ask a Cowboys fan and it’s Dak’s fault even though he’s not playing. You will also be told Trey Lance is the answer.
That's the difference between Walmart Cowboys fans and real Cowboys fans.
Real Cowboys fans know exactly who to blame. Accountability for any organization starts at the top and we'll never have it again . It's a sobering thought.
Not to mention this…
Monday Night Football: Metal fragment falls from AT&T Stadium roof after opening before Texans-Cowboys game
Opening the roof at AT&T Stadium before Monday night's Texans-Cowboys game suddenly became dangerous.
sports.yahoo.com
Playing out the string. Again cowboys window to win is over. They need a few high draft picks to start to rebuild the franchise. They had a big window to win over the past 6-8 years and never could get it done in the playoffs.
Funny one or two idiots on this board have no clue how the NFL works. Theyve been 12-5 3 years running. Cap and salaries have caught up with them and injuries didnt help.. much like many other organzations before them..and many more will follow that path after them..
Funny one or two idiots on this board have no clue how the NFL works. Theyve been 12-5 3 years running. Cap and salaries have caught up with them and injuries didnt help.. much like many other organzations before them..and many more will follow that path after them..
Imagine getting double shafted by a team you cant seem to beat in a playoff game. They threw Lance to you and you gave up draft picks to get him. The guy can't throw a dart and hit the wall but he's quick!
The Lord knows I'm not one to defend Jerry, but they take that turf in and out very frequently for different events.
Yep, Jimmy selected and coached the rosters that won the SBs in the 90s and he held everyone accountable including himself.
I know Switzer technically gets to claim one but he didn't select or coach those players.
If Jerah was serious about a rebuild....which he's not and never will be....he'd throw the bank at the Lions OC, hire a new GM to draft the right players, trade Parsons for multiple draft picks (mini Herschel deal) and make sure this teams only wins 1-2 more games (easiest one). If you can get a top 5 pick this year then you trade back for multiple picks. They need good cheap players right now and the draft is where to get it. If you trade Micah and your top 5 pick you could have 2 drafts in one or over 2 years. Of course if Jerah's still making the call on players it won't matter.
ahh he aint gonna totally rebuild now that he signed Dak. The opportunity to rebuild was before you signed him to a massive deal. Anything he does now will be tweaks here and there, but even then it'll be 2 years before they can get the window opened back up.
They had a nice 6-8 year stretch where they were good. They held that window open longer than most teams could even think of. Now they are having pay the piper because of that.
I like your plan though. Would have done it with Dak and Parson's both though
Switzer was a flaming idiot. A monkey could have coached that team to the SB title. Jimmy set that ball on the T for idiots Jones and Switzer to get a ring.
Dallas Cowboys' NFL rank for cash spending over the last few years according to sport trac: (1 being highest cash spending in NFL)
2024 - 15th
2023 - 11th
2022 - 29th
2021 - 2nd
2020 - 3rd
2019 - 18th
Seems to me that they just don't spend enough to get good players around their QB; yet their owner blames their QB for taking a large portion of the cap space. Had their owner signed the QB earlier and managed the cap and cash spending better, he could have much better players. Jerry is the problem with the Cowboys.
2024 - 15th
2023 - 11th
2022 - 29th
2021 - 2nd
2020 - 3rd
2019 - 18th
Seems to me that they just don't spend enough to get good players around their QB; yet their owner blames their QB for taking a large portion of the cap space. Had their owner signed the QB earlier and managed the cap and cash spending better, he could have much better players. Jerry is the problem with the Cowboys.
again someone that knows nothing about the NFL.. spitting out stuff that makes no sense. Cash spending means nothing. Its about the CAP.
Cap Spent:
2019: 9th
2020: 2nd
2021: 15th
2022: 11th
2023: 6th
2024: 7th
you have to go all the way back to 2016 before you find a year where Dallas wasn't in the top half of the league in terms of salary cap money put to use. They've constantly put money into their roster and havent tanked in years.
"Cash spending isn't really that relevant. It's cap spending," Belichick said on WEEI's Greg Hill Show. "So teams that spend a lot of cash one year probably don't spend a lot of cash in the next year, because you just can't sustain that."
A quote from the GOAT to support the point that cash spending means nothing
I agree that cap spending matters but cash spending matters too. How much of that cap spending is dead cap…?
Ultimately, My point is that Jerry sucks as a GM and is cheap. Top half of the league? Where is cowboys revenue ranked? They should be consistently top 5 of the league in cap use and cash spending. Yet, they manage to wait until the last minute and make bad deals that compound overtime. Then, they blame the players they just signed to market deals for taking too much of the cap! Well, it’s not the players responsibility to manage the cap and jerry could have made a better deal.
Ultimately, My point is that Jerry sucks as a GM and is cheap. Top half of the league? Where is cowboys revenue ranked? They should be consistently top 5 of the league in cap use and cash spending. Yet, they manage to wait until the last minute and make bad deals that compound overtime. Then, they blame the players they just signed to market deals for taking too much of the cap! Well, it’s not the players responsibility to manage the cap and jerry could have made a better deal.
I agree it probably should've happened before signing Dak but that's how disconnected with reality this front office has become. They literally thought they had a chance to make the playoffs with this roster and coaching. I have 0 faith anymore.....the Jones family has broke me.
revenue doesnt matter, cash spending doesnt matter. As bellichik said, no team can constantly be at the top of cash spending yearly, yet even in your data you see they were 2nd and 3rd. Cap is king and they've always used up the cap to put players on the field.
You can only spend what the cap allows you to spend and for the last 10 years the cowboys have always been in the top half of the league and many times inside the top 10. They've always spent... They are the farthest thing from cheap.
Im a life long cowboy fan.. and You can say a lot about the entire organization.. but one thing they havent been is cheap.... the statement in bold is very naive. You should read up on how the cap and cash works... statements like that show you really have no clue how money, cap, and cash work in the NFL
Yes, they moved to drafting developing and resigning their own quite a few years ago. They don't really participate in major free agent signings and they should have when the window was open but Jerah knew he'd have to pay up with future losing teams....he gets what he deserves!
Ehhhh... what did you want Jerry do.. tell everyone he wasnt going to make the playoffs. The fact he made zero moves in the off-season and said something along the lines of this being a wait and see type seasons.. read b/t the lines there.
Jerry's main fault is he never wanted to do a rebuild. He never wanted to suck for 2-3 years to rebuild the thing like other organizations have.
“Transition period”, “rebuild through the draft”, and “window to win” aren’t inherent inevitabilities that come from running a franchise. They are self-imposed penalties, by bad GM’s, that come from continuously poor roster and salary cap management over multiple years.
You never hear fans or media talking in those terms with franchises like the Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers, Ravens, Steelers, and a few others….because those franchises all have GM’s that aren’t clueless, and know how to be competitive every year even if it means higher roster turnover.
Jerry is a really bad GM that is also 82 years old. He’s sometimes gets confused for being at least a mediocre / average GM because he didn’t get a chance to draft Paxton Lynch or a bunch of other terrible QB’s, and accidentally got “stuck” with a Top 7-8 QB that he was lucky enough to land in the 4th round.
every team has to eventually pay the piper. Its how the league is built. Runs in cycles. Why team's windows to win are very small.
Dallas had some very good teams over the last 6-8 years. Choked in the playoffs.
You're serious.
The 49ers? that 2015-2018 window was impressive... WOW... not to mention a two time 2-14 record... or the 03-08 window where they didnt have a winning season.
Chiefs (minus 07-09), Ravens, and Steelers are really the only teams that have managed to be successful over long periods of time without a rebuild in the NFL's last 30 years... maybe could toss philly in there. Very similar track record to dallas.
Dallas has had more success in Jerry Jones tenure than maybe 3-4 other organizations in the NFL... guess he got lucky a lot
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My goodness - now I remember why it's stupid to engage at all.
Jerry is the problem; not Dak, not the head coach, not the defense - Jerry.
Jerry is the problem; not Dak, not the head coach, not the defense - Jerry.
But they never do pay the piper unless they have a QB1 injury like Romo and Dak twice. Otherwise they are just good enough to compete for a WC or Division and then crap their pants. There hasn't been a full tear it down rebuild since he bought the team....maybe Parcels so he could get the stadium built but I wouldn't even call that a full rebuild its just not in Jerah's business model. Cowboys are top 10 winning% in the last couple decades and #2 behind Pittsburgh since the merger. Stuck in the middle and thinking you'll catch lightning in a bottle is fools gold.....thanks Eli and the Giants. He use to quote that crap all the time....look at the Giants they prove you just have to make it into the tournament and anything can happen. I use to think he just said that to benefit his business model but now I really think that was his strategy for winning another SB. It's criminal negligence how this front office is run****
You’re overthinking it. Lynch took over in 2017 at GM, same year as Shanahan. They took a couple of years to get it going but now are set up for the long haul.
Green Bay as well.
He’s 82 years old now. He can’t lean on his success from 30 years ago anymore. If what you yourself say is true, and they really are 2-3 years away from any sort of high end success, then he’s the only one to blame for that. You can’t have it both ways.
im agreeing with 90% of what you say my friend.
Jerrys major fault is not being willing to do a full tear down to build it back up. He pressed and pressed to keep this window open, and it was open for a longer period of time than is normal in the NFL. Theyve put together some good teams that have laid some real head scrathers and duds in the playoffs... and i dont/cant blame jerry for that.
i was referring to the Jerry tenure. Since 2017 theyve been solid I agree. They'll have to figure somethings out in the future too. The minute they have to pay purdy, they'll experience some of the stuff dallas is right now. We'll see how they handle things
Good point with Green Bay. But we are at basically 3-4 organizations at best that have managed to put together sustained success over a long period of time. Point was and is, its hard to do, and most organziations cant do it...and Jerry has done it better than most
I agree with the age thing. Its as big of a factor as anything. I fault him for not pulling the plug before paying Dak the first time. Was a good time for a reset, and I think if he was 62 he may have made a different decision. However, the cheap, he hasnt put players around guys, he got lucky, etc is all bogus. He's been a very good owner/GM for his entire tenure.. and has had more sustained success than any organization than maybe 2-3-4 during his time... i can give him the benefit of the doubt due to his track record to see what the next moves are.
the eagles went 4-11-1 in 2021
niners 6-10 in 2020
Pack had a 6 win season in 2019
even a few of the really good organziations had to take a small step back... i mean they've had 3 losing seasons since 2010.. and 2 of those happened when they lost their starting QB to injury. Hard for anyone to do that and be bad at their job.. or be "lucky"
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