Dabo rumblings

[PrestonyteParrot]

According to Pate, if Dabo is not willing to make major changes needed regarding the portal/NIL necessary to bring in top talent the fanbase rumblings which have been ''silent whispers'' will now be out in the open with Tiger fans after the Louisville beatdown. Some writers/podcasters claim he will be the Ohio State coach in 2025 while other new rumblings link him with the Dallas Cowboys. I know a lot of this is ''ratings bait talk'' but in talking with Clemson folks today they are visibly shaken with the product they are seeing on the field. Dabo looked rattled during and after the game.
Any thoughts or inside talk from your Tiger friends?

 

[18IsTheMan]

Might have just been a bad game.
Bama lost to Vandy.
Tennessee lost to Arkansas.
FSU is in the toilet.

 

[Lurker123]

Why would a pro team hire him?

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

Why would a pro team hire him?

To do the same thing he did at Clemtech. Be the CEO and hire some talented assistants to coach the team.

 

[92Pony]

To do the same thing he did at Clemtech. Be the CEO and hire some talented assistants to coach the team.

I wonder if pro players would respect him? (Serious question.)

 

[Yard_Pimps]

Might have just been a bad game.
Bama lost to Vandy.
Tennessee lost to Arkansas.
FSU is in the toilet.

It’s a trend not a bad game.

 

[Cocky Jeff]

They suck. He sucks. All I got.

 

[Atlanta Cock]

According to Pate, if Dabo is not willing to make major changes needed regarding the portal/NIL necessary to bring in top talent the fanbase rumblings which have been ''silent whispers'' will now be out in the open with Tiger fans after the Louisville beatdown. Some writers/podcasters claim he will be the Ohio State coach in 2025 while other new rumblings link him with the Dallas Cowboys. I know a lot of this is ''ratings bait talk'' but in talking with Clemson folks today they are visibly shaken with the product they are seeing on the field. Dabo looked rattled during and after the game.
Any thoughts or inside talk from your Tiger friends?

Those fans are spoiled thanks to him. He's had 1 bad loss this year. Other than this past Saturday, and the expected loss to UGA earlier this year, they've looked rather good.

 

[Ronin A10]

Dabo is clearly struggling in the new age of NIL and Portal.Hes a good old days coach now. Hopefully this process takes 3 more years as the ACC implodes. Tired seeing them get the easiest path to the NC.its going to be fun watching SMU pass them by.

 

[Sparklecity]

The portal doesn't seem to be working out to well for Florida St.

 

[The Reel Ess]

The portal doesn't seem to be working out to well for Florida St.

Of course some teams will win and others will lose using the portal. There's no guarantee the players you bring in will mesh or even stay healthy. And you have less control over others leaving. But if everyone else plays the game and you don't you are intentionally missing out on the benefits. I don't think it's THE WAY to build a team. It's the way to fill some positions of need that you missed out on when recruiting. I'm not a fan of it, but it is what it is now. Toothpaste is out of the tube.

 

[Gradstudent]

Why would a pro team hire him?

Because they are very poorly run due to having an incompetent owner.

Raiders may be in the market for a coach soon

 

[muscleknight]

Jerry Jones and Dabo: a match made in hell

 

[burghcock]

Those fans are spoiled thanks to him. He's had 1 bad loss this year. Other than this past Saturday, and the expected loss to UGA earlier this year, they've looked rather good.

Well, they haven't played anyone with a winning record to get those victories. So you think they looked good against the cupcake of the week? I smell a Tater

 

[Irvin Snibbley]

Pat Forde had interesting take on possible coaching changes in the off season

Napier out replaced by James Franklin
Cignetti to Penn State
Stoops to Indiana
Chadwell to Kentucky
Dabo to Liberty
Todd Monken to Clemson with Venables
as DC
Rhett Lashlee to Okla
Lincoln Tiley to Smu
Kalen DeBoer to USC
Demeco Ryan’s to Alabama
Whew…I think that covers it

 

[Piscis]

Unless he is a total idiot, Dabo would be a fool to leave the Clemson job. He has a cakewalk to the playoff at Clemson every year if he doesn't screw it up. He recruits well with his cheerleader/youth minister persona and his results have been very good. I think the loss to Louisville was the result of playing such a soft schedule all season. The Clemson players had no experience facing a team with actual major college talent since the UGA game. They thought they could come out and go through the motions like they had in all of their other games and get the win. I'm sure in the player's minds, every regular season game was a scrimmage to get them ready for the ACCCG against Miami.

I don't think Dabo fits at any other program and certainly not in the NFL.

 

[The Reel Ess]

They're just rumblings. You can't fire your winningest coach ever, who's still winning. They're just stuck until he figures out the portal or he wins again or he has a couple of very disappointing seasons or he leaves voluntarily. They're a very spoiled fanbase. Would that we were so spoilt!

 

[18IsTheMan]

Unless he is a total idiot, Dabo would be a fool to leave the Clemson job. He has a cakewalk to the playoff at Clemson every year if he doesn't screw it up. He recruits well with his cheerleader/youth minister persona and his results have been very good. I think the loss to Louisville was the result of playing such a soft schedule all season. The Clemson players had no experience facing a team with actual major college talent since the UGA game. They thought they could come out and go through the motions like they had in all of their other games and get the win. I'm sure in the player's minds, every regular season game was a scrimmage to get them ready for the ACCCG against Miami.

I don't think Dabo fits at any other program and certainly not in the NFL.

He would be a fool to leave and Clemson would be a fool to let him go.

It's funny to me how quickly Clemson fans forgot their history. Prior to Dabo they were mostly a good to pretty good team over the course of their history. Now they act like they absolutely have to be a title contender every single season. It's just not sustainable. With exceedingly few exceptions, any coach who stays at a program long enough will have ebbs and flows.

It's just funny to me that Clemson fans now view themselves as such a program that they could just kick Dabo to the curb and bring in someone else who will absolutely replicate his success.

They would be advised to take a look at Bama. Yeah, they were "slipping" under Saban, going 3 years without a title (gasp!), missing the playoffs one of those years and getting in last year based on name association alone. But Saban still turned over a Ferari to DeBoer. Are they still very good? Yes. But they're not the best team in the SEC and they have some noticeable chinks in their armor.

Reality is, when it comes to the portal, there are more misses than there are hits. Fans have been conditioned to think the portal is the fix-all solution. It's not.

I don't know about him fitting with another college program. Odds are he would not find the success at another program that he has had at Clemson. Very few do. And, no, I agree, he is not a fit AT ALL for the NFL. He's a great college football coach, but greater college coaches than him have tried and failed at the NFL. Almost all of them.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

As several commentators have noted, the talent level is on a downward trajectory as evidenced by the on-field play. Pate went so far as to say they looked totally disorganized and confused against Louisville. As the ACC competitiveness changes Dabo must also change. Is he willing to do so?

 

[18IsTheMan]

As several commentators have noted, the talent level is on a downward trajectory as evidenced by the on-field play. Pate went so far as to say they looked totally disorganized and confused against Louisville. As the ACC competitiveness changes Dabo must also change. Is he willing to do so?

Eh, I dunno. People are so reactionary. A few weeks ago most of our fans were convinced we had serious talent issues based on our on-field performance. Now the sentiment is we can hang with anyone. Our talent level obviously hasn't changed. Just the perception. If Clemson comes out and throttles Pitt, the sentiment will change.

 

[ctgarric]

I wonder if we’ll at least put him in the hot seat.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

Eh, I dunno. People are so reactionary. A few weeks ago most of our fans were convinced we had serious talent issues based on our on-field performance. Now the sentiment is we can hang with anyone. Our talent level obviously hasn't changed. Just the perception. If Clemson comes out and throttles Pitt, the sentiment will change.

probably true, but even when losing they have not looked so ''out of it'' as this past Saturday according to fans I know.

 

[LonghornsGamecocks]

Jerry Jones and Dabo: a match made in hell

Dabo would get run out of Dallas like I don't know what

I wonder if we’ll at least put him in the hot seat.

If we beat them like we did UK, OU, or A&M... it will get really hot really fast

 

[Irvin Snibbley]

Personally I can see it.If Dabo gets fed up with all the Portal dealings I could see him walking away.Dabo has made about 125-150 million thus far do his next move likely won’t be swayed by money.Also Liberty being a Christian based school would make it attractive to Dabo as well.
I could totally see it happening.Several of my Clemson friends have said they wouldn’t be surprised if he outright retired.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

As usual over reactions by some in the fan base (sound Familiar ?).
Most figured beating UL was a given. Louisville is one of those teams that programs dread playing. They do have talent at the skill positions, and Jeff Brohom is a very good coach. They are capable of beating most teams on any given Saturday.
With that said I would have thought Clemson would win, but last Saturday many teams got beat that most thought would be a win

 

[Irvin Snibbley]

If Dabo leaves it will be because he is tired of the current system.Nobody is running him off.Say what you will about Clemson but they want to win in the worst way and they know the can’t find an improved on Dabo

 

[3USC1801]

As ridiculous (to us) as it seems, there is always a chance Clemson moves on from Dabo. All it really takes is for the fans to turn on him to the degree the administration can’t allow it to continue. Even Dabo may grow tired. Perhaps he knows he doesn’t have the caliber of staff like in the past and sees the fabric of what he created unraveling.

Frankly, while I’m not a prognosticator, it’s hard to imagine Clemson administration not riding out this season and hoping things settle down.

But if Dabo retires or they move on from him, they will be fine. After all, it’s not the SEC. It’s the EZZ. They might have a Miami or a SMU in contention but winning the conference championship and making the playoffs can still be a goal. They just might not make it as often. And if they do make it to the playoffs, they will always be—to use a Tater figure of speech—the midget in the room. Their glory days are behind them and their fans will have to adjust to being mediocre again.

 

[18IsTheMan]

As ridiculous (to us) as it seems, there is always a chance Clemson moves on from Dabo. All it really takes is for the fans to turn on him to the degree the administration can’t allow it to continue. Even Dabo may grow tired. Perhaps he knows he doesn’t have the caliber of staff like in the past and sees the fabric of what he created unraveling.

Frankly, while I’m not a prognosticator, it’s hard to imagine Clemson administration not riding out this season and hoping things settle down.

But if Dabo retires or they move on from him, they will be fine. After all, it’s not the SEC. It’s the EZZ. They might have a Miami or a SMU in contention but winning the conference championship and making the playoffs can still be a goal. They just might not make it as often. And if they do make it to the playoffs, they will always be—to use a Tater figure of speech—the midget in the room. Their glory days are behind them and their fans will have to adjust to being mediocre again.

If I were him and the fans kept it up, I'd probably just retire. He's filthy rich. He'd instantly land a TV gig anyway.

 

[3USC1801]

If I were him and the fans kept it up, I'd probably just retire. He's filthy rich. He'd instantly land a TV gig anyway.

I believe that’s a likely scenario if, as you say, he loses the fans.

 

[treyno2722]

If Dabo leaves it will be because he is tired of the current system.Nobody is running him off.Say what you will about Clemson but they want to win in the worst way and they know the can’t find an improved on Dabo

The current system ran off Tony Bennett of UVA.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Pat Forde had interesting take on possible coaching changes in the off season

Napier out replaced by James Franklin
Cignetti to Penn State
Stoops to Indiana
Chadwell to Kentucky
Dabo to Liberty
Todd Monken to Clemson with Venables
as DC
Rhett Lashlee to Okla
Lincoln Tiley to Smu
Kalen DeBoer to USC
Demeco Ryan’s to Alabama
Whew…I think that covers it

Not challenging you directly on this one, but Pat Forde is sure is freely wheeling and dealing here.
1. Why would Indy want Stoops
2. Dabo to Liberty - comical at best, this entry nullifies the next one
3. Todd Monken to Clemson. No
4. Bama may be disgruntled so far, but seriously doubt the fire DeBoer after 1 season

I could see UF with Franklin, Cignetti to PSU. (longshot), Lashlee to Okla.

 

[Yard_Pimps]

They're just rumblings. You can't fire your winningest coach ever, who's still winning. They're just stuck until he figures out the portal or he wins again or he has a couple of very disappointing seasons or he leaves voluntarily. They're a very spoiled fanbase. Would that we were so spoilt!

I disagree 12mil is a lot to pay someone who is not competing with the Acc. College football has always been about what have you done for me lately. Couple more years like this and he will be asked to hang it up or do it himself. He seems to be a lot like Saban in the modern football world and bothered by it. Stuck in the past have you will.

 

[Yard_Pimps]

Eh, I dunno. People are so reactionary. A few weeks ago most of our fans were convinced we had serious talent issues based on our on-field performance. Now the sentiment is we can hang with anyone. Our talent level obviously hasn't changed. Just the perception. If Clemson comes out and throttles Pitt, the sentiment will change.

That’s every fan base

 

[Yard_Pimps]

If Dabo leaves it will be because he is tired of the current system.Nobody is running him off.Say what you will about Clemson but they want to win in the worst way and they know the can’t find an improved on Dabo

I’m not so sure this is true if he continues to fight against NIL and the portal. If he wants to survive he will have to conform. Yes I said survive. That fanbase has tasted winning and it will want to continue.

 

[Irvin Snibbley]

Not challenging you directly on this one, but Pat Forde is sure is freely wheeling and dealing here.
1. Why would Indy want Stoops
2. Dabo to Liberty - comical at best, this entry nullifies the next one
3. Todd Monken to Clemson. No
4. Bama may be disgruntled so far, but seriously doubt the fire DeBoer after 1 season

Yeah,the odds of all this happening are minute but still thought it I interesting.
Again my Clemson friends think Dabo is fed up with the system of today and could see him walking away like Jay Wright,Coach K or Chip Kelley.
As for the possibilities of Liberty I see retirement as a more likely option but the Christian school angle might appeal to Dabo.



I could see UF with Franklin, Cignetti to PSU. (longshot), Lashlee to Okla.

 

[18IsTheMan]

That’s every fan base

Yes, that's why I left it general and said "people".

 

[Irvin Snibbley]

Not challenging you directly on this one, but Pat Forde is sure is freely wheeling and dealing here.
1. Why would Indy want Stoops
2. Dabo to Liberty - comical at best, this entry nullifies the next one
3. Todd Monken to Clemson. No
4. Bama may be disgruntled so far, but seriously doubt the fire DeBoer after 1 season
I think he was looking a chain of events set in place by Florida letting their coach go and the rest was the ensuing domino effect.
You don’t think Clemson would hire a guy who won 2 NC’s as Oc T Georgia if he could bring Venables with him?
His take on Stoops was Stoops and Kentucky both might a reset and the Ohio/Midwest area is Stoops recruiting area.
All this is Pat Forde talking out of his rear.Did think it was interesting


I could see UF with Franklin, Cignetti to PSU. (longshot), Lashlee to Okla.

 

[Irvin Snibbley]

Dabo already on the way out.Instead of backing up a moving van they wouldn’t let him vote today,hoping to piss him off.

 

[92Pony]

Not challenging you directly on this one, but Pat Forde is sure is freely wheeling and dealing here.
1. Why would Indy want Stoops
2. Dabo to Liberty - comical at best, this entry nullifies the next one
3. Todd Monken to Clemson. No
4. Bama may be disgruntled so far, but seriously doubt the fire DeBoer after 1 season

I could see UF with Franklin, Cignetti to PSU. (longshot), Lashlee to Okla.

Yeah, I’m with you. I honestly don’t see any of those things happening. What a weird list he put together.

 

[Piscis]

I’m not so sure this is true if he continues to fight against NIL and the portal. If he wants to survive he will have to conform. Yes I said survive. That fanbase has tasted winning and it will want to continue.

I don't think Dabo wants to merely "survive". He has tasted winning in a much bigger way than the Clemson fan base has and he probably isn't going to hang around and be "almost great". I think it depends a lot on how strongly he feels about the portal, NIL and the upcoming direct paying of players by the schools. He has always been pretty vocal about being opposed to all of those things. I guess we'll see how committed to his values he really is.

One thing is certain; unless he has blown money like no one in history ever has, he isn't going to stay at the job because he needs the paycheck. It wouldn't surprise me much if he walked away in the next year or so.