Dads on facebook are complaining about playing time...
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It’s Michael Obriens Father. Not to be confused with Father Michael Obrien, former pastor of St Joseph’s in Starkville.
You guys realize that legitimate travel ball isn't daddy ball right? This local version you see a lot isn't that. Real programs don't put up with parents who can't STF up. And college programs generally don't take kids with parent problems unless they aren't recruiting well and have to take chances. Show me loud mouthed parents and I'd show their asses the door!
Sounds like they need a weekend getaway
With the way Chance is hitting vs SEC competition, I can't say I disagree with him.
| Player | AVG | OPS | GP-GS | AB | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | TB | SLG% | BB | SO | OB% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chance, Bryce | .189 | .414 | 9-9 | 37 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 7 | .189 | 2 | 11 | .225 |
Chance.. Downs is 1 for 15 who shouldnt ever see the field unless its against LHP when we need a homer, or a righty throwing 85 down the middle with no breaking stuff.... Stallman is 3 for 22...
But i cant find any posts by him...
However goes back to Lemonis and his favorites... and the horrible non conference.
Wasn't Pico's mom all over a facebook a few years ago too. Seems to be a recurring theme.
Lemon is the polar opposite of the IB
Lemon is the polar opposite of the IB
As a team in conf play we are now dead last in Slug, 15th in HR, 10th in BA, Dead last in fielding , last in runs, and I’m not doing the math but near the bottom in K rate.
I can’t tell you OBP bc the terrible sec site has it totally wrong. It also counts TX-OM in that showcase as a conference game.
I can’t tell you OBP bc the terrible sec site has it totally wrong. It also counts TX-OM in that showcase as a conference game.
Hines and his 1200 OPS.. and 380 average... people complained and wanted him to move off the plate... one of the few we have in the lineup that can handle SEC pitching... while praisings downs ability to hit homers off queens throwing 82 down the middle
THAT's how those teams are showing 10 conference games.... I swear, the only people worse at their job than Lemonis are the folks who run the SEC website.
Oh.. and we're DFL in fielding by a healthy 9 points. We could play an errorless SERIES and still be #16.
What is the difference between legitimate and illegitimate travel ball... the size of the speakers the parents bring for walk up music?
No fuckie-fuckie!
How people put up with that speaker nonsense is all you need to know about local travel ball. You waste your time and money with that ****! Of course, they're competing with all the ones with a cross or Bible verse on their unis while missing church every Sunday, so there's that too. Oh, and the batting gloves and all the body armor for coach pitch, that's always great too. Fire the coach that's hitting them poor kids with a fastball!*
Bigger “World Series” rings.
Travel ball is pretty inundated with daddy ball at all levels. Otherwise they'd be turning over their rosters too much. A lot of coaches say the right things but depending on how good the kid is, the parents still get too involved, not just about what their kid should be getting, but about what should be happening to other kids they don't like.
Yes , my conclusion after travel ball for several years, it is bad for the game, burns kids out, brings out the worst in overzealous parents who all think their kid is the next multi millionaire mlb player. In most instances, kids would be better off playing league ball with their buddies. It probably should be limited to 13-14 year old and up.
A lot of them are going to be in for a rude awakening when they see what their options are. And for a lot of them, hopefully one of those options won't be to come back to Mississippi State.
Well if chance and his 189 average in SEC play was running out there daily, and Downs who shouldnt even be on the SEC roster is 1 for 15 and still playing... and my kid was told my lemonis how important of a role he was going to have all off-season and fall i'd have an issue with it as well.
I mean he was basically told he'd start or get regular playing time.
Taking it to Facebook isnt the way i'd go... but I guess they've reached their boiling point
I mean he was basically told he'd start or get regular playing time.
Taking it to Facebook isnt the way i'd go... but I guess they've reached their boiling point
If you've got a checkbook, your kid can play travel ball.
The best ones (again, not local junk but national level travel teams) do not. You guys can show me all the U.S. kids in MLB that never play travel, You're going to be disappointed. Travel ball isn't about winning tournaments, it's about showcasing kids' talent and connections. I get it, a lot of folks only know what they see, but the top end stuff isn't having trouble finding good players. Now, you've got some that will try to dictate things for certain schools no doubt, but it's still not that daddy ball. Entitlement can be put in its place pretty quickly when they realize little Johnny who dominated 12u in Noxapater, is getting killed against real competition.
Tell them little bastards they don’t need a quadrophonic Blaupunkt!
agree. High end travel ball is good at all levels. Hence why your seeing a lot of the lesser teams dissolve.
A good team should be strong up the middle. We are incredibly weak up the middle.
this isnt really fair. They dont go a LOT due to the fact their season runs side by side with it... and the fact they can go to ONE travel ball tournament and see multiple players at one time at one location...
makes a ton more sense to travel to one location to see a lot of players while your team isnt playing...
I was involved in that stuff for 20 years. I know how it works.
I'm an advocate for travel ball. More eyeballs on these kids as they get older and they have to develop a work ethic they wouldn't get in rec ball, plus it separates the kids who want to play from the kids who are just doing it because their dad wants them to or they want to be with their buddies.
But make no mistake - daddy ball exists and it's a problem, even for the national programs. And everyone says the right thing about not putting up with it or not wanting to be "one of those parents" until the rubber meets the road. And it's not every kid/parent, but it only takes one or two in a program to make it miserable for everyone.
It's pretty pointless, as far as true development, until you get to 13U, which is when many of them are hitting puberty and gets more serious and about the future, than about just winning and one-upping folks in status. That said, travel ball from 6U to 12U is not slowing down, matter of fact, it's only accelerating. Parents want it, they like the entertainment, and the kids don't give a shlt either way. They'll hang out and 17 off at a travel tournament just like they will at a rec game or running around the neighborhood.
So what I'm saying is that we should all just quit bltching about it. Because nobody is putting that toothpaste back in the tube. The tournaments are too captivating for any group of parents to try and band together and get back to rec/all stars or whatever. A bunch of folks started podcasts during COVID complaining about everything and acting like they had the answers, but most of them were just hypocrites too, and were trying to convince other teams to practice/play less so they could beat them.
numbers show that travel ball in ages 6-12 and in ALL ages are slowing down... not picking up.
Both in number of teams and players, but also in numbers of teams showing up at tournaments, etc
With roster sizes being capped at 34 beginning next season (currently at 40), there's going to be hundreds and hundred of kids that find their D1 careers suddenly over. The portal this coming offseason is going to be brutal for a lot of players.
I'd like to see a source on this that shows it's something other than a covid abnormality.
If I had kids playing now, with the cost of everything, I couldn't afford it. I'm sure that's the driving force. We left MS to get away from some things and it was worth it back then but I can't imagine the cost these days for a good national team. Of course, with NIL, that's a lot of money for incentive too if your kid is a true talent freak.
not hard to find. All the travel ball teams have to be registered, along with the tournmanets they play in. You can do the leg work yourself.. go year by year.. team by team... tournament by tournmanet.
If you are heavily involved its easy to see how the numbers have dropped. All the regional and tournament directors are available to talk with at these sites as well.
Numbers are dropping, and it not a slight drop either
My brother was part of a national travel scene for a few years starting in 11th grade. Basically, he was a late bloomer, and his future college coach connected him to a team. Let's just say a lot of dads were pissed when my brother showed up and took their sons spot. Same team, but different position, I watched a dad cuss a coach and pull his son off the team because an issue. It happens a lot no matter the level.
I am blessed to know a lower-level college coach and he tells me the baseball environment across all levels is killing fundamentals. He told me he knows a dad that was attempting to get his kid to go viral to get college coaches eyes. He thanks the Lord daily he passed on that kid.